ariich’s new album roulette, v. totally mad (The End Again: post-roulette Train)

[Crow]

ahh, would you like me to change to two absolute crap albums for the last round?

[ariich]

ahh, would you like me to change to two absolute crap albums for the last round?

I thought you did that already.

[Crow]

oh yeah right I sent frontierer by mistake oops

[Luoto]

Sent 97 minutes of music

[Train of Naught]

I sent the album, and another album

If I don't go down tomorrow in a blaze of glory, I sure as hell will in the finals

..or both!

[Crow]

I'm definutely rooting for OWEL over Cardiacs, myself 

Let's make it so hangman for next round can start before this round even ends 

[King Puppies and the Acid Guppies]

ahh, would you like me to change to two absolute crap albums for the last round?

John Cage and Frontierer

[Crow]

oh yeah right I sent frontierer by mistake oops

fool, you're too late

[King Puppies and the Acid Guppies]

Ninja'd 

[Crow]

Twelve Foot Ninja'd

[LordCost]

For the finals or 4th place battle, I have in mind to send a very famous album and an unknown one.

 

[Crow]

Thumpermonkey 2?

I'm definitely eager to see the results of this round and also the final round hangmeme at the same time

[ariich]

I'm definitely eager to see the results of this round and also the final round hangmeme at the same time

That'll require Luke and LoCo to submit in the next couple of hours as that's when results will be.

[Crow]

LukeCost! Don't disappoint us 

[LordCost]

Thumpermonkey 2?

I'm definitely eager to see the results of this round and also the final round hangmeme at the same time

It's not Thumpermonkey but you can guess them. In the end the bands that I like and the other people here don't know are not that many.

I'm thinking about sending two unknown bands and not sending the famous album.. In any case I'm not confident on all three albums 

[Crow]

Both albums I sent aren't really similar to my other submissions this roulette in any way so I'm prepared to crash and burn but I fully stand behind both of them regardless 

[ariich]

Looks like the hangman will have to wait.


Semi final results, 3 of 3
Semi final 1 here: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=52779.msg2476370#msg2476370
Semi final 2 here: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=52779.msg2476815#msg2476815

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Train vs LordCost
First impression: This match up seems to be between a reasonably safe submission, and a somewhat risky one. Both are pretty great to be honest. Atter one listen of each, my initial feeling is that the safe bet will have the better staying power, partly because it really taps into my love of a couple of other bands. But then the riskier one was really cool, so anything could happen. Time will tell.

Final opinions:

LordCost: Cardiacs – Guns (1999)
This was definitely a risk, but actually I really like it. Your previous “quirky” submissions haven’t done especially well (comparatively), and when you tried to send Sing to God and I explained I’d actually heard it before and didn’t remember being too keen, you sent another Cardiacs anyway. And to be honest, I have to admire you for that because this is great. I actually had another listen to Sing to God as well, to see if it’s a matter of my tastes changing since I last heard it and maybe I liked it after all, but no I honestly just don’t think it’s particularly great. There are some superb songs, but others I actually find actively annoying for some reason, and it’s just too long for something so quirky. Not so on Guns. It’s still pretty wacky, but all of the songs are at least enjoyable and some of them are brilliant (particularly in the second half, almost all of which I love), and the runtime makes it a very entertaining listen. This album has also made me realise that Cardiacs is surely a big influence on Orbs, who I also enjoy. I’m hopefully meeting Dan Briggs in December when BTBAM tour so I might well ask him then if I remember!
Score: 8.0

Train: OWEL – OWEL (2013)
Considering my love for The Dear Hunter and The River Empires, it’s not surprising that this folky, proggy and occasionally theatrical indie was right up my alley. On my first listen, I did wonder during the first couple of tracks if it might end up feeling a bit middle-of-the-road. As pretty as the opening stuff is, it takes a little while to get going energy-wise. But the second half of Scales has some great build up, and then Death In The Snow is absolutely wonderful and I was hooked from there. On further listens, the whole thing is pretty amazing. It’s not as hauntingly beautiful as some of the River Empires stuff, and it’s not as thrilling as The Dear Hunter’s best albums, but it fills a great niche somewhere between the two and does everything rather excellently. After a slight dip in performance (although I genuinely appreciate you sending some unique and risky stuff) this is a superb return to form and the highlight of the semi finals.
Score: 9.0

The verdict: Well then, I enjoyed the Cardiacs a lot more than I would have expected based on what I’d heard of their stuff before, but the OWEL album is just wonderful and gets better and better with each listen. Which I suspected might be the case on my first listen. So although LordCost scores the joint-second-best score in the semi finals (although with three other people, in fairness), there could only be really one winner here.
Winner: Train. Congrats!

LoCo, thanks for sending me such a cool variety of music, some of which was incredible. Arcane Roots in particular was the best album of the roulette (unless it’s beaten in the final of course, which isn’t especially likely), and the Rishloo and Vangough were also fantastic. And good on you for sticking with some of the quirky stuff that you love and which didn’t always work brilliantly for me - I’m glad the slightly lower ratings (and the fact that I wasn’t keen on Sing to God) didn’t put you off sending Guns because it’s definitely changed my view of Cardiacs.

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So there we have it. Our finalists are:
 - Parama
 - Luoto
 - Train

And battling it out for 4th place are:
 - Luke
 - TAC
 - LordCost

Looking forward to getting Luke and LoCo’s submissions!

[Crow]

Nooooot very surprised about the OWEL score, yeah  I think it has a few weak tracks but most of it ranges from good to fantastic so

[LordCost]

I'm unlucky in fantasy football when it comes to be against the best team of the week and I have been unlucky here too in the semifinal pairings.. Congrats Dennis!
I was told by Train during its roulette final that Cardiacs reminds him about Orbs, but I'm lazy AF and I didn't check them out apart the one song he sent to me, and I remember I liked it. They have been an influence to Napalm Death, Blur, Radiohead, Mike Patton, Oceansize, Steven Wilson and others I don't remember, but you can find them on wiki. I don't know if you'll like something else by them. Their last EP Ditzy Scene, maybe A Little Man and a House...

After the unexpected Arcane Roots score I started to listen to them more often, thanks for that. It's a unique chain of consequences that won't happen in any other roulette I believe 

Sent my last two albums, both of them not famous finally, while you were publishing the results.

[Crow]

luke!!! free us from this hangmanen-less hell we live in

Maybe I should give cardiacs another shot, dunno
I just was super not into that album when I did try to listen to it, dunno

[twosuitsluke]

Sent the first thing that came to mind.

[Crow]

That's how you do it 

Hang! Em! High!

[TAC]

Yay! let's go losers!!!

I'm going to bet 100 TAC points that the total Losers Bracket score will be greater than the Finalists Bracket.

[Crow]

that's just wishful thinking 

[ariich]

No hangman yet, because Luke only sent me one album!

[Crow]

LUKE ALBUMSENDERRRRR
he's not in the finals anyways just john cage him and let's get this party bus rollin'

[twosuitsluke]

Ok, just sent two totally different albums. This is going to be interesting 

[ariich]

Ok we're good to go. Have at it!

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[Crow]

D you in my dreams

[ariich]

Surprisingly few Ds this round.

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[Train of Naught]

Woohoo

I'm unlucky in fantasy football when it comes to be against the best team of the week and I have been unlucky here too in the semifinal pairings.. Congrats Dennis!

Thanks dude! Honestly, I did save the album I was most confident in until this knock-out, I play this album all the time and almost everyone seems to enjoy it, and apart from home and Parama I don't think anyone on here listens to them (and I don't think home is active on here anymore) so the chances of this album still being available to send were pretty high.

I was told by Train during its roulette final that Cardiacs reminds him about Orbs, but I'm lazy AF and I didn't check them out apart the one song he sent to me, and I remember I liked it.

Yeah I noticed Orbs draw a lot of influences from Cardiacs when you sent me Guns, especially the vocals. That's a band I refer to when having the discussion with people that you don't have to be a 'technically' good singer to be a singer for a band if your voice fits the music well.


My risk factor is through the roof on this round, I'm sure you'll find one of my albums in this hangmeme pretty quickly

Give me R

[Luoto]

My risk factor is through the roof on this round, I'm sure you'll find one of my albums in this hangmeme pretty quickly

Thanks for the tip

Slice the Cake - Odyssey to the West

[Evermind]

My risk factor is through the roof on this round, I'm sure you'll find one of my albums in this hangmeme pretty quickly

Thanks for the tip

Slice the Cake - Odyssey to the West

Hahaha wow, basically every other album I've heard is very different from this one.

[ariich]

My risk factor is through the roof on this round, I'm sure you'll find one of my albums in this hangmeme pretty quickly

Thanks for the tip

Slice the Cake - Odyssey to the West

Good start.

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Guessed letters: DR

[Crow]

train omg you're screwed 

one album title looks like The Dark Tower