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Re: ariich’s new album roulette, v. totally mad (R5 results 1-4 & 8-11)
« Reply #1050 on: September 15, 2018, 02:04:59 PM »
not if i impersonate him so nobody notices he's missing

Dude, your pessimism and lack of punctuation would give you away immediately  :lol

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Re: ariich’s new album roulette, v. totally mad (R5 results 1-4 & 8-11)
« Reply #1051 on: September 15, 2018, 02:06:44 PM »
:lol

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Re: ariich’s new album roulette, v. totally mad (R5 results 1-4 & 8-11)
« Reply #1052 on: September 15, 2018, 02:50:51 PM »
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Re: ariich’s new album roulette, v. totally mad (R5 results 1-4 & 8-11)
« Reply #1053 on: September 15, 2018, 02:53:52 PM »
I imagine it would be covered by rule 3: respect your fellow posters. :P

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Re: ariich’s new album roulette, v. totally mad (R5 results 1-4 & 8-11)
« Reply #1054 on: September 15, 2018, 03:28:28 PM »
I hoped for an 8 and got an 8.5, I'm glad you liked it. You can try Warpaint next, which is still a great album, while I'm not familiar with the albums before Between The Madness, and I doubt they are better than this one.

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Re: ariich’s new album roulette, v. totally mad (R5 results 1-4 & 8-11)
« Reply #1055 on: September 15, 2018, 03:38:28 PM »
Damn, sucks that Chad got eliminated, I love that Kepler Ten album. These are some tight scores.  :lol
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Re: ariich’s new album roulette, v. totally mad (R5 results 1-4 & 8-11)
« Reply #1056 on: September 15, 2018, 03:48:01 PM »
I imagine it would be covered by rule 3: respect your fellow posters. :P
i'll just have to respectfully murder you then

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Re: ariich’s new album roulette, v. totally mad (R5 results 1-4 & 8-11)
« Reply #1057 on: September 15, 2018, 05:42:54 PM »
Damn, sucks that Chad got eliminated

It sure does!
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Re: ariich’s new album roulette, v. totally mad (R5 first impressions complete)
« Reply #1058 on: September 15, 2018, 06:24:05 PM »
#2 Not your best submission but it's pretty good. Some cracking stuff but some I found a bit meh on first listen.

#5 This all sounded fine, but only a couple of tracks really grabbed me on first listen.

#11 This could well turn out to be your best submission of the roulette.

11 is obviously TAC given his 8.5+ mandate
The other two tidbits remaining say basically the exact same thing though so I basically have a general idea of what you think of the album  :P out of the two i'm gonna go with #5 out of pessimism as it seems like the slightly weaker one from that writeup

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Re: ariich’s new album roulette, v. totally mad (R5 first impressions complete)
« Reply #1059 on: September 15, 2018, 06:36:34 PM »
#2 Not your best submission but it's pretty good. Some cracking stuff but some I found a bit meh on first listen.

#5 This all sounded fine, but only a couple of tracks really grabbed me on first listen.

#11 This could well turn out to be your best submission of the roulette.

11 is obviously TAC given his 8.5+ mandate


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Re: ariich’s new album roulette, v. totally mad (R5 results 1-4 & 8-11)
« Reply #1060 on: September 15, 2018, 06:38:38 PM »
i mean, if you score like a 9/10 you're basically safe otherwise you'll just end up tied with three other people already cut  :P

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Re: ariich’s new album roulette, v. totally mad (R5 results 1-4 & 8-11)
« Reply #1061 on: September 15, 2018, 06:39:26 PM »
i mean, if you score like a 9/10 you're basically safe otherwise you'll just end up tied with three other people already cut  :P

Thanks  :lol
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Re: ariich’s new album roulette, v. totally mad (R5 results 1-4 & 8-11)
« Reply #1062 on: September 15, 2018, 06:43:57 PM »
hey, that'd be good news for me :neverusethis:

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Re: ariich’s new album roulette, v. totally mad (R5 results 1-4 & 8-11)
« Reply #1063 on: September 15, 2018, 11:56:19 PM »
Results!










































Soon. :soon:

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Re: ariich’s new album roulette, v. totally mad (R5 results 1-4 & 8-11)
« Reply #1064 on: September 16, 2018, 12:28:51 AM »
rich, i'm going to sleep in an hour. screw you

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Re: ariich’s new album roulette, v. totally mad (R5 results 1-4 & 8-11)
« Reply #1065 on: September 16, 2018, 12:32:51 AM »
Results in 59 minutes.

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Re: ariich’s new album roulette, v. totally mad (R5 results 1-4 & 8-11)
« Reply #1066 on: September 16, 2018, 12:38:33 AM »
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Re: ariich’s new album roulette, v. totally mad (Group stage complete)
« Reply #1067 on: September 16, 2018, 12:41:44 AM »
Nah not really let's do this.



Round Five (end of group stage) final standings
Results 1 & 11 here: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=52779.msg2473358#msg2473358
Results 2 & 10 here: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=52779.msg2473509#msg2473509
Results 3 & 9 here: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=52779.msg2473593#msg2473593
Results 4 & 8 here: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=52779.msg2473691#msg2473691


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JOINT FIFTH PLACE
Parama
Round 5 submission: Hannes Grossmann – The Radial Covenant (2014)

First impression: Not your best submission but it's pretty good. Some cracking stuff but some I found a bit meh on first listen.

Final opinion: This was a fairly risky submission (whether you realised it or not), but it's pretty solid. When it comes to heavy music like this I definitely need a decent amount of melody for it to grab me. The death metal bands I love tend to make everything very melodic and/or atmospheric even in the heavy parts, and metalcore bands often throw in some huge choruses. Musically a lot of this sounds more like the latter (plenty of moments remind me of earlyish-BTBAM) but it doesn’t really do the choruses. The album is definitely at its strongest, in my opinion, when it does go melodic. The opening track is absolutely superb, The Voyager is a fun proggy instrumental, and the title track also has some excellent stuff. There’s enough of that for me to like the album quite a bit, but not enough for me to love it. There are whole segments that I just find quite monotonous (like pretty much all of The Sorcerer… meh) and which bring the album down a bit.
Score: 7.5
Total score = 8.5 + 8.0 + 8.5 + 7.5 + 7.5 = 40.0


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JOINT FIFTH PLACE
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Round 5 submission: Euphoreon – Ends of the Earth (2018)

First impression: This could well turn out to be your best submission of the roulette.

Final opinion: Dunno how you pulled this off, but your submissions just keep getting better and better, like you're finding where our tastes intersect. This is such great stuff, and a little different to all the other melodic death metal I listen to in subtle ways. It sort of does all the things the genre can do, without relying too much of any of them. It's super melodic and really epic, and also atmospheric in places, but still always heavy and riff-driven. It's proggy in places, rhythmically and structurally, but never in a way that's especially complex or hard to follow. Sort of sounds like a fusion of melodeath and prog with elements of power metal included in a really fun way that creates a huge and engaging sound. It's a mix that could have felt cheesy or bland, but for whatever reason they've done it in a way that hit me just in exactly the right places. There are some great atmospheric moments too, Zero Below the Sun is one of the standouts for me. And Mirrors, which you highlighted, is also excellent. But to be honest it's all great. I loved this on first listen and it's only gotten better as I've got to know it more and little details come out more, especially in some of the great guitar work. One of my favourites and best surprises of the whole roulette.
Score: 9.0
Total score = 7.5 + 7.5 + 8.0 + 8.0 + 9.0 = 40.0


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ELIMINATED
Lethean
Round 5 submission: Kingcrow – Phlegethon (2010)

First impression: This all sounded fine, but only a couple of tracks really grabbed me on first listen.

Final opinion: This is a very nice prog album with a good range of ideas and influences, but it doesn't really excite me enough to change my opinion of Kingcrow I'm afraid. Like the other album I've heard by them, it does everything pretty well and ticks all the boxes for me to like it, but nothing jumps about enough to really properly grab me. The vocals and melodies are all good, but the hooks aren't especially strong. The production is clear and competent, but lacks impact for me. Performances are all solid, but not especially noteworthy. There are definitely some standout moments, particularly in the title track, but not enough of them to make me love it.
Score: 7.5
Total score = 8.0 + 8.5 + 8.0 + 7.5 + 7.5 = 39.5


It brings me no pleasure at all to have to eliminate you, as you sent me some cracking music and especially after you were doing so well early on (joint 1st after round two!). The last couple of submissions, while still very good, just weren't quite as exciting for my tastes, and you didn't have as much of a buffer as Parama and Train who did the same. But I'm super grateful for those first three submissions especially, with Voyager being the real standout and a definite purchase, but Need was also excellent and you've prompted me to finally explore more of Katatonia's discography.

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Final group stage ranking:
1= Luoto = 41.0
1= Luke = 41.0
3= Train = 40.5
3= LordCost = 40.5
5= Parama = 40.0
5= TAC = 40.0
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Eliminated:
7= Lethean = 39.5
7= Jingle = 39.5
7= Puppies = 39.5
7= Sacul = 39.5
11 Katt = 38.0

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Semi finals:
Luoto vs TAC
Luke vs Parama
Train vs LordCost

Semi finals are a knockout, so you could send my my 5th ranked album of the 6 and still progress if your opponent sends the 6th ranked.

In the unlikely event that two people send the same album, obviously one will need to resend of they are opponents, but if they're in different matches then I'll accept it.

So feel free to send whenever you're ready.

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Re: ariich’s new album roulette, v. totally mad (Group stage done, semi final now)
« Reply #1068 on: September 16, 2018, 01:07:50 AM »
i was already pretty aware you liked melody in your metal, yes :P
i feel the entire album is pretty melodic throughout though but yeah the opener and the title track are easily the standouts
anyways i gotta find some kind of crap to send you now, darnit  :corn

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« Reply #1069 on: September 16, 2018, 03:07:32 AM »
Sent an EP.
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Re: ariich’s new album roulette, v. totally mad (R5 results 1-4 & 8-11)
« Reply #1070 on: September 16, 2018, 04:42:36 AM »
You can try Warpaint next, which is still a great album
:tup great album

I just tried Euphoreon.. not for me :lol can't stand the vocals

Oh and I just sent :corn it's my favourite album of all the ones I have sent so probably 6.0-6.5/10
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Re: ariich’s new album roulette, v. totally mad (Group stage done, semi final now)
« Reply #1071 on: September 16, 2018, 04:54:43 AM »
Way to go Tim!!!  Awesome comeback.  It's like Bruins/Leafs circa 2012.   :lol

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Re: ariich’s new album roulette, v. totally mad (Group stage done, semi final now)
« Reply #1072 on: September 16, 2018, 05:39:18 AM »
All these tight scores make my 1.5 point deficit really noticeable :lol
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« Reply #1073 on: September 16, 2018, 06:11:59 AM »
You can try Warpaint next, which is still a great album
Oh and I just sent :corn it's my favourite album of all the ones I have sent so probably 6.0-6.5/10
So I can go to the finals with a 7.0, nice  ;D
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« Reply #1074 on: September 16, 2018, 08:58:19 AM »


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Round 5 submission: Kingcrow – Phlegethon (2010)

First impression: This all sounded fine, but only a couple of tracks really grabbed me on first listen.

Final opinion: This is a very nice prog album with a good range of ideas and influences, but it doesn't really excite me enough to change my opinion of Kingcrow I'm afraid. Like the other album I've heard by them, it does everything pretty well and ticks all the boxes for me to like it, but nothing jumps about enough to really properly grab me. The vocals and melodies are all good, but the hooks aren't especially strong. The production is clear and competent, but lacks impact for me. Performances are all solid, but not especially noteworthy. There are definitely some standout moments, particularly in the title track, but not enough of them to make me love it.
Score: 7.5
Total score = 8.0 + 8.5 + 8.0 + 7.5 + 7.5 = 39.5


It brings me no pleasure at all to have to eliminate you, as you sent me some cracking music and especially after you were doing so well early on (joint 1st after round two!). The last couple of submissions, while still very good, just weren't quite as exciting for my tastes, and you didn't have as much of a buffer as Parama and Train who did the same. But I'm super grateful for those first three submissions especially, with Voyager being the real standout and a definite purchase, but Need was also excellent and you've prompted me to finally explore more of Katatonia's discography.

My work here is done. :)

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« Reply #1075 on: September 16, 2018, 10:18:18 AM »
Sent! I forgot to add the message in my box, I hope that it has been sent because I don't want to rewrite everything I wrote  ;D
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« Reply #1076 on: September 16, 2018, 01:12:10 PM »

JOINT FIFTH PLACE
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Round 5 submission: Euphoreon – Ends of the Earth (2018)

First impression: This could well turn out to be your best submission of the roulette.

Final opinion: Dunno how you pulled this off, but your submissions just keep getting better and better, like you're finding where our tastes intersect. This is such great stuff, and a little different to all the other melodic death metal I listen to in subtle ways. It sort of does all the things the genre can do, without relying too much of any of them. It's super melodic and really epic, and also atmospheric in places, but still always heavy and riff-driven. It's proggy in places, rhythmically and structurally, but never in a way that's especially complex or hard to follow. Sort of sounds like a fusion of melodeath and prog with elements of power metal included in a really fun way that creates a huge and engaging sound. It's a mix that could have felt cheesy or bland, but for whatever reason they've done it in a way that hit me just in exactly the right places. There are some great atmospheric moments too, Zero Below the Sun is one of the standouts for me. And Mirrors, which you highlighted, is also excellent. But to be honest it's all great. I loved this on first listen and it's only gotten better as I've got to know it more and little details come out more, especially in some of the great guitar work. One of my favourites and best surprises of the whole roulette.
Score: 9.0
Total score = 7.5 + 7.5 + 8.0 + 8.0 + 9.0 = 40.0




Awesome!! Glad you liked it. A year or two ago, I would've missed this album, but I've been opening my ears to harsher vocals, and I am so glad I did. This is a Top 5 2018 album for me. Honestly, I tolerate the vocals, but musically this is so fantastic. melodic, thrashy, epic, atmospheric, and powerful.


OK, I'm through to the next round. Going to have to reread the OP to figure out what I do next, as I am not prepared. :lol


EDIT: Sent my 2018 AOTY. Gonna need something good to go up against Luoto.
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would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Winger Theater Forums........or WTF.  ;D
TAC got a higher score than me in the electronic round? Honestly, can I just drop out now? :lol

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Re: ariich’s new album roulette, v. totally mad (Group stage done, semi final now)
« Reply #1077 on: September 17, 2018, 02:26:31 AM »
I really don't want to just play it safe and send prog metal but I think my super weird/out there album will be pretty risky. The prog metal albums I am thinking of are really awesome but I can't decide. Think I just need to listen through them all today.

Will send asap

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« Reply #1078 on: September 17, 2018, 05:31:13 AM »
Honestly, I tolerate the vocals, but musically this is so fantastic. melodic, thrashy, epic, atmospheric, and powerful.


Anytime the word "tolerate" has to be used to describe one's enjoyment of any music, I simply can't comprehend how it can be "top 5" material.  There's so much AWESOME music out there that I'm simply not willing to ... tolerate ... just tolerating certain aspects of music. 

:dunno:

That's just me though.
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« Reply #1079 on: September 17, 2018, 05:45:18 AM »
For me, there can be music where a certain element (say, the vocals) isn't quite my thing in and of itself, and where I'd describe that element as tolerable, but where the way it blends in with everything else can still work really well. The Vangough album in round 5 was a good example for me. The production was serviceable but not great, but it didn't hold it back and actually in some particular moments gave it a raw, emotional feel that was fantastic.

TL;DR: I think it's more nuanced than that.

Also nice quotefail.

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« Reply #1080 on: September 17, 2018, 06:00:06 AM »
Also nice quotefail.

No clue what you're talking about.   :biggrin:

If you're gonna quotefail someone, you better quote it for evidence!   :lol
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« Reply #1081 on: September 17, 2018, 06:08:27 AM »
Relistened to my 'weird/out there' submission and I just think the vocals make it too risky. Back to the drawing board...  :\

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« Reply #1082 on: September 17, 2018, 06:20:07 AM »
Also nice quotefail.

No clue what you're talking about.   :biggrin:

If you're gonna quotefail someone, you better quote it for evidence!   :lol



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Re: ariich’s new album roulette, v. totally mad (Group stage done, semi final now)
« Reply #1083 on: September 17, 2018, 06:36:02 AM »
Ruslan is my hero. :heart

Although I could just go in and edit your post if I wanted to make sure there was "evidence", Chad.

Ariich is a freak, or somehow has more hours in the day than everyone else.
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Re: ariich’s new album roulette, v. totally mad (Group stage done, semi final now)
« Reply #1084 on: September 17, 2018, 06:53:40 AM »
Ruslan is my hero. :heart

Although I could just go in and edit your post if I wanted to make sure there was "evidence", Chad.

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