jingle.boy's 4th roulette: That's all she wrote folks - another happy ending

[jingle.boy]

What do Pestilence, War, Famine, and Death have to do with this roulette?  Not much really, I just had trouble coming up with a catchy subject.

Some key points from my previous OP's that - after 6 years - still haven't changed.
I'm not doing this to explore new genre's of music, so don't expect to get much love from pop, electronica (just ask Bolsters) or any genre requiring the words "post" or "core" or "math" or "alt" or "death" or "thrash" to describe it.  In fact, that kind of music might put you on the fast track to getting the boots.

My intention is for rounds to be a week at most - 2 days for you to decide what to send, 4-5 days for me to listen and writeup. I'm not going to chase people to submit, so if you're running late, your song just might not get many listens.  As one of my old bosses used to say, this is the FIFO method - Fit In, or Fuck Off.

Now... the guidelines.

First and foremost, MAKE IT FUN.  Roulette's aren't just about sharing good music you think the organizer will like, it's about having fun. I can get excellent music recommendations from Spotify, last.fm, Amazon, YouTube, BandCamp fishing expeditions, and/or Progstreaming. I host a roulette to have fun WHILE discovering new music.

The banned list.  Even if I've listened to an artist lots of times, if there are songs/albums I don't know, I just might allow it. Great example, Zydar sent me Aerosmith in my first roulette. I have their box set, and a few albums, but I didn't know what he gave me.  I'll allow that kinda stuff.  There are lots of artists I like, but I don't know everything by them - as an example, The Moody Blues, Magnum, and and Rod Stewart from the banned list. I've listened to a bunch of their stuff, but there's lots I don't know.  Send what you will, but I have the right to reject if I know an artist too well.  Here's a link that includes a copy/paste of my iTunes Library for the ultra-keeners.  It also has the bands that I received in my 1st three roulettes.  Below is the list of artists that I have over 50 or more listens to in my iTunes library - Like I said, those with fewer plays may not be formally banned, but you'll might be hard pressed to sneak one of these by me.  Not impossible, but most of these would be off limits.  Lastly check my last.fm. Searching is a pain, but you can look for a specific artist by using this format (note the "+" that needs to be in place of any band name with multiple words) https://www.last.fm/user/jingle-boy/library/music/Led+Zeppelin

Participants.  Come one come all.  Some may not make it to the end however ... see the Twists.

Format.  8 Rounds.. maybe 10 depending on whether I move quickly or not

Submitting.  Spotify, or email me the .mp3 (chadrbelcher... I use gmail).  If not available on either, just tell me the band/song ... I have ways.  I prefer to avoid YT, as sometimes the quality is shyte.

My tastes.  For those that don't know, figure it out yourself .  The banned list, last.fm, and 8 years of posting history ought to be enough.

Scoring.Stack Rank - rankings will be from 1-10 ... 1 being the best song, 10 being the least best.  If there's more than 10 people in this, there will be ties.

Twists - these are clear in my mind, and hopefully they don't seem too convoluted.  Just something to add a little bit of fun each round.

Twist #1a.  Three strikes and you're out.  I'm not really interested in repeatedly subjecting my self to mediocre music.  If you finish in the bottom 1/3 three times, you're getting sent home. If a lot of people sign up, I might (aggressively) modify this rule, as I don't think I can digest 17 songs over 8-10 rounds.
Twist #1b.  If I hate it, it won't get much replay effort, and I may instantly give you a 10 - you'll also get 2 strikes.  Don't send me crap music that doesn't align with my tastes.

Twist #2a. Handicaps.  Each round, whoever finishes last will be given the opportunity to handicap someone that finished in the Top 3.  More on the handicaps later.  They won't be anything too disastrous, just give a little extra challenge for the leaders to stay the leaders.
Twist #2b.  Someone in the Top 3 each round will be randomly awarded an "I'm rubber, you're glue" award, and be able to reverse the handicap if they happen to be the one chosen by the bottom-dweller.

Possible Handicaps:
1) Instrumental or ballad
2) Epic (15+ minutes) or shorty (under 3:30)
3) Letter or colour - the song, band or album must start with that letter, or have a colour in it the title/name
4) Opening or closing track
5) Seven Deadly Sins - something to do with any of Lust, Gluttony, Envy, Pride, Sloth, Wrath, or Greed
6) Aggressive or Mellow
7) Song from the childhood years of the handicapped player



Twist #3.  How the hell did I miss them!?!?  I have a list of 20 bands that while I kinda know and am mostly ambivalent about, I'm willing to be convinced - 9 bands are modern-era Prog or Metal; 11 bands are 80s era Metal (though some are still making music these days).  These are all Tier-1 / very well known and well discussed bands around the DTFs.  If you want to take a shot at submitting these bands, then I'll grant you a reward of your choice - either a 2 place ranking improvement, or a 1 place penalty to any other player of your choice.  In previous roulettes, there are an equal number of cases where this kind of submission would've gone horribly wrong (Iced Earth and Manowar come to mind), as those that were a smashing success - I'm eternally grateful to wolfking for giving me W.A.S.P., and lonestar for giving me IQ.  Take your chances if you dare.  I will ask this, don't simply try and land on these bands just for the sake of the 'reward'.  If you send a shit song (for my tastes) that gets a poor score, a 2 point improvement isn't going to help you that much in the end.  Everyone's focus should be on sending great music.  I'm just trying to give an incentive to take a chance.

Protip #1... Pain of Salvation, Porcupine Tree, and Haken are NOT on this list.  I've tried with all of those far too many times to give them any more chances.
Protip #2... none of them are what my boy Evermind would classify as Zantera / Sacul-music

Lastly, put on your big-boy underoos and take any criticism or elimination like a man.  lonestar is single-handedly responsible for the most recommendations in my library from any DTF'r, yet he didn't make it past the qualifying round in my last roulette.  Shit happens.  Don't take things personally.



Roll call:
kingshmegland
lonestar
Elite
Evermind
Train of Naught
TAC
Kattoelox
Bolsters
Puppies_On_Acid
Indiscipline
jjrock88
Lowdz
Lethean
Stadler
wolfking
Parama

Round 4 Standings:
Evermind*: 4+3+1+3=11
lonestar*: 2+5+5+2=14
Bolsters: 5+4+5+1=15
TAC: 2+5+5+3=15
jjrocks88**: 4+2+4+6=16
Kattoelox: 1+7+4+4=16
wolfking*: 2+4+6+5=17
Lethean*: 4+8+4+4=20
Lowdz: 6+1+8+6=21
kingshmegland: 4+9+1+8=22
Indiscipline**: 6+7+6+8=27
Puppies_On_Acid: 8+8+3+10=29
Stadler: 7+6+7+9=29
Parama: 9+6+9+7=31
Elite: 10+7+10+5=32
Train of Naught: 9+10+7+7=33

* - 1 point improvement
** - 2 point improvement



Roulette 1
Roulette 2
Roulette 3

[jingle.boy]

(Most likely) Banned list

ABBA   123
Abime   101
Absolute Priority   150
Abydos   55
AC/DC   260
Accept   104
Aerosmith   241
Affector   159
After Forever   342
Age Of Artemis   52
Aldo Nova   81
Allen / Lande   668
Almanac   73
Alpha Rev   316
Amadeus Awad   261
Amadeus Awad's Eon   88
Amaran's Plight   199
Amaranthe   158
Ambeon   90
Ancestral Dawn   94
Angra   561
Animations   58
Anthriel   388
Anubis   316
April Wine   147
Arion   115
Arjen Anthony Lucassen   142
Arthemis   87
At Vance   490
Avantasia   1409
Axel Rudi Pell   362
Ayreon   1530
Bad Salad   74
Beautiful Sin   145
Beyond The Bridge   226
Bigelf   153
Black Fate   113
Blessed By A Broken Heart   144
Blind Guardian   368
Bob Catley   61
Bon Jovi   321
Borealis   480
Boston   131
Brazen Abbot   274
Brighton Rock   50
Bruce Springsteen   269
Bruce Springsteen & the E Street Band   103
Bryan Adams   87
CCR   83
Chain   249
Chrissy Steele   53
Cinderella   75
Circus Maximus   570
Cloudscape   420
Conception   80
Consortium Project   782
Constantine   172
Coverdale/Page   97
Crimson Glory   127
Daedalus   175
Damian Wilson   221
Damn Yankees   182
Damnation Angels   266
Damnations Day   88
Danger Danger   76
Darkwater   113
Darwin's Radio   73
David Bowie   70
David Lee Roth   54
David Wilcox   110
Daydream XI   115
Dec Burke   366
Deep Purple   92
Def Leppard   205
Delain   181
Delta   268
Devin Townsend   176
Devin Townsend Project   110
DGM   467
Dimension Act   228
Dokken   103
Dream Evil   246
Dream Theater   2897
Dreyelands   57
Eagleheart   178
Echoes   302
Eclipse   150
Eden's Curse   375
Edguy   60
Elegy   422
ELO   57
Elton John   106
Empires of Eden   75
Empty Tremor   65
Enchant   310
Epysode   650
Erik Norlander   152
Eternity's End   96
Eumeria   126
Europe   418
Evergrey   1388
Everwood   141
Evil Masquerade   55
Expedition Delta   76
Extreme   230
Fatal Force   76
Fates Warning   148
Firehouse   250
Firewind   366
First Signal   199
Flaming Row   1045
Fleetwood Mac   79
Flying Colors   349
Forgotten Suns   155
Frameshift   889
Freedom Call   450
Frost*   332
Genesis   305
Genius   179
Glass Mind   214
Gowan   118
Grand Funk Railroad   67
Guns N' Roses   115
Hardline   652
Harem Scarem   1079
Harry Hess   80
Headspace   67
Heart   140
Heart of Cygnus   189
Heaven Below   90
Heavens Fire   139
Hemina   285
Henning Pauly   280
Hibria   91
House Of Lords   897
Ian Parry   52
Ice Age   244
Icefish   54
Illusion Suite   387
Infinity Overture   88
InnerWish   176
Innosense   50
InVertigo   68
Iq   300
Iq   131
Iris Divine   81
Iron Maiden   845
It Bites   212
Ivory Tower   51
James Labrie   330
Jethro Tull   317
Jimi Hendrix   84
Joe Satriani   52
John Cougar Mellencamp   65
John Petrucci   71
Jorn   50
Jørn   504
Journey   566
Kamelot   747
Karnya   148
Kim Mitchell   50
Kingcrow   315
Kiss   168
Lande   57
Last Tribe   177
League of Lights   99
Led Zeppelin   1372
Lionsheart   56
Lord   296
Lords of Black   223
Lost In Thought   171
Loverboy   86
Luca Turilli   51
Lynyrd Skynyrd   70
Maestrick   85
Magic Pie   66
Magnitude 9   246
Magnum   56
Magnus Karlsson's Free Fall   462
Marillion   123
Masterplan   535
Meat Loaf   82
Mechanical Poet   101
Metallica   320
Mind Key   154
Mind's Eye   163
Mindmaze   422
Mob Rules   204
Moon Safari   84
Mötley Crüe   227
Mr. Big   200
Myrath   174
Mystery   576
Nation Beyond   112
Neal Morse Band   171
Nemesea   246
Neonfly   412
Neverdream   195
Nightmare   69
Nightwish   1158
No Doubt   66
Nocturnal Rites   385
Noveria   154
Now or Never   140
Ocean's of Night   83
Odd Dimension   81
Original Broadway Cast   98
Outworld   66
Ozzy Osbourne   91
Pagan's Mind   519
Pain Of Salvation   106
Pathosray   179
Paul Gilbert   50
PelleK   196
Pendragon   81
Peter Gabriel   133
Phantasma   58
Phantom's Opera   152
Pink Floyd   379
Place Vendфme   104
Planet Alliance   181
Poison   310
Poverty's No Crime   253
Powerworld   412
Presto Ballet   267
Pretty Maids   579
Pride Of Lions   92
Primal Fear   635
Prince and The Revolution   50
Project Arcadia   82
Prospekt   125
Prymary   178
Psycrence   127
Pyramaze   489
Pyramid Theorem   93
Queen   177
Queensrÿche   731
Red Circuit   242
Redemption   521
Reo Speedwagon   67
Revamp   222
Revolution Renaissance   69
Rhapsody   115
Rhapsody of Fire   99
Rik Emmett   52
Robert Plant   110
Rockhead   116
Rod Stewart   51
Roswell Six   326
Royal Hunt   686
Rush   2029
Sacrum   177
Saga   58
Sandstone   54
Sass Jordan   213
Savatage   408
Saxon   165
Scale The Summit   65
Scorpions   118
Secret Sphere   420
Section A   229
Serenity   855
Serious Black   251
Seven Steps To The Green Door   139
Seventh Wonder   352
Shadow Circus   374
Shadow Gallery   412
Shadow's Mignon   73
Shania Twain   101
Shattered Skies   100
Shy   61
Silent Call   63
Silent Force   540
Silent Memorial   60
Silent Voices   51
Skid Row   266
Slade   92
Slaughter   183
Soul Secret   360
Speaking to Stones   88
Spirit of the West   64
Spock's Beard   1779
Stamina   51
Star One   855
Starbreaker   241
Stargate   148
Steven Wilson   57
Stratovarius   241
Stream Of Passion   430
Sturm Und Drang   283
Styx   400
Subsignal   560
Sun Caged   183
Sunburst   112
Sunstorm   59
Supertramp   136
Sven Gali   74
Symphony X   1033
T.O. Joker   81
Tangerine Circus   117
Tears of Anger   243
Tellus Requiem   144
Ten   535
Teramaze   250
Tesla   418
The Beatles   461
The Black Crowes   53
The Chronicles Project   141
The Dear Hunter   331
The Doobie Brothers   81
The Eagles   118
The Ferrymen   52
The Flower Kings   137
The Gentle Storm   175
The Guess Who   66
The Magnificent   153
The Moody Blues   58
The Night Flight Orchestra   70
The Poodles   163
The Rolling Stones   113
The Tangent   153
The Who   159
Theocracy   122
Thought Chamber   307
Thoughts Factory   88
Threshold   430
Thunderstone   345
Toby Hitchcock   199
Tony Macalpine   80
Toxic Smile   226
Trail Of Murder   84
Trans-Siberian Orchestra   1135
Transatlantic   424
Transcend   202
Triosphere   356
Triumph   806
U2   175
UFO   68
Unruly Child   82
Utopia   98
Van Halen   398
Vanden Plas   1013
Vandroya   289
Vanish   134
Vanishing Point   397
Vengeance   190
Vince Neil   66
Vision Divine   305
W.A.S.P.   178
WarMachine   343
Warrant   114
Wasaya   51
White Lion   172
Whitesnake   265
Wicked Sensation   280
Winger   427
Winter Rose   95
Withem   105
Within Temptation   160
Work Of Art   99
Xandria   266
Y&T   147
Yargos   186
Yes   104
Yngwie Malmsteen   95
Zebra   69
ZZ Top   94

Bands submitted so far:

Round 1:
A.C.T.
Amorphis
Caligula's Horse
Choirboys
Eric Gillette
Fifth Angel
Helloween
Katatonia
Nahtram
Orphaned Land
Soen
The Hirsch Effekt
The Lord Weird Slough Feg
Time Requiem
Wetton/Downes
Wolverine

Round 2:
Anathema
Aquaria
Dissona
Distorted Harmony
DragonForce
Dreamscape
Edenbridge
Fiction Syxx
Heart
Hekz
Impellitteri
Killing Touch
Manticora
Mercenary
Periphery
The Silent Wedding

[Elite]

Read the entire OP and I'm fairly convinced I have some stuff to send, so bring it on!

Or as mr. jingle himself often says in other roulettes: "you're all playing for second place, bitches!"

[Evermind]

Not sure if I have enough good music for this, but I'll manage. Obviously in.

[King Postwhore]

In your face hoser.  I'm in.

[Train of Naught]

Fuck it, I think I have enough cool stuff to send you despite some of our musical differences, and the format sounds really fun, so I'm in!

[TAC]

[The Walrus]

I'm in. Hopefully I can show you some good tunes 

[TAC]

...put you on the fast track to getting the boots....

...this is the FIFO method - Fit In, or Fuck Off...

...Some may not make it to the end however...

...figure it out yourself... 

...you're getting sent home. If a lot of people sign up, I might (aggressively) modify this rule...

...Lastly, put on your big-boy underoos and take any criticism or elimination like a man.  ..

Of course..

First and foremost, MAKE IT FUN.  , it's about having fun.

[The Walrus]

  

[jingle.boy]

Seems like the two of you are enjoying yourselves already.   

Carry on.

[TAC]

Seems like the two of you are enjoying yourselves already.   

Carry on.

Yup.

Stay out of it.

[King Postwhore]

Tim enjoys (his) butt hurt.

[TAC]

[Bolsters]

In.

[jingle.boy]

In.

Shit dude, what the fuck are you doing up?  You on the Blob sleeping schedule?

[King Postwhore]

[TAC]

 

Don't call me Shirley.

[The Walrus]

I see Randy Newman is free to send?

Considering I rely on this forum to show me prog music I doubt I'll have much in that realm to introduce so this will be a nice challenge... just hope I don't get eliminated early 

[Puppies_On_Acid]

Obviously, I'm in!

[jingle.boy]

I see Randy Newman is free to send?

Considering I rely on this forum to show me prog music I doubt I'll have much in that realm to introduce so this will be a nice challenge... just hope I don't get eliminated early 

There was that Sons of Seasons outfit that you sent Lethean I think - he hated it, but I thought it was excellent. 

Of all the music ever, there are surely songs/bands in everyone's repertoire that might fit the bill here.

[The Walrus]

I see Randy Newman is free to send?

Considering I rely on this forum to show me prog music I doubt I'll have much in that realm to introduce so this will be a nice challenge... just hope I don't get eliminated early 

There was that Sons of Seasons outfit that you sent Lethean I think - he hated it, but I thought it was excellent. 

Of all the music ever, there are surely songs/bands in everyone's repertoire that might fit the bill here.

I forgot you liked that! But is that off the table now?

[Indiscipline]

May I apply with campy stuff or the roster's already pretty full?

[Crow]

yeah i'm just gonna sit this one out & be the peanut gallery, there is like no common ground between us musically other than stuff that's already banned 

[jjrock88]

well I've been involved in all of your roulettes; so if this is the last one, I might as well complete the saga lol

As long as you are ok with meat and potatoes/would have been my thing 20 years ago/not really my cup of tea/solid/type older songs, I can join.  If you want modern songs, I'm probably the worst on the forum to join lol

But count me in.

[King Postwhore]

well I've been involved in all of your roulettes; so if this is the last one, I might as well complete the saga lol

As long as you are ok with meat and potatoes/would have been my thing 20 years ago/not really my cup of tea/solid/type older songs, I can join.  If you want modern songs, I'm probably the worst on the forum to join lol

But count me in.

https://youtu.be/Gu3cgYJc_Fs

[Lowdz]

Sounds a bit complicated for my tiny mind but sign me up. If just to put off the inevitable "when are you going to run a roulette?" retorts. 

[jingle.boy]

Sounds a bit complicated for my tiny mind but sign me up. If just to put off the inevitable "when are you going to run a roulette?" retorts. 

You're in... and every writeup you get will end with "when are you going to run a roulette?".   

well I've been involved in all of your roulettes; so if this is the last one, I might as well complete the saga lol

As long as you are ok with meat and potatoes/would have been my thing 20 years ago/not really my cup of tea/solid/type older songs, I can join.  If you want modern songs, I'm probably the worst on the forum to join lol

But count me in.

Dude... I almost called the third twist the "jj twist".  That one should be right up your alley.

May I apply with campy stuff or the roster's already pretty full?

Come one, come all.

[TAC]

Dude... I almost called the third twist the "jj twist".  That one should be right up your alley.

Gee. I don't know. If Loudness can't get Japanese Bonus Points....




J Boy, all rounds Open?



We're having my folks down today. I'll send tonight.

[jjrock88]

Chadster, will you post those twist 3 80's bands?

[jingle.boy]

Dude... I almost called the third twist the "jj twist".  That one should be right up your alley.

J Boy, all rounds Open?

Yes.

I should also mention that I have two other potential twists - nothing major ... just something increase the 'equity' in the rankings in an attempt to give everyone a shot at winning - that may come up during the competition.

Chadster, will you post those twist 3 80's bands?

I haven't decided yet.

[lonestar]

I'm in, but I honestly will be blindly sending stuff since you already have my best.

[Lethean]

I'm in - will send tonight or tomorrow but it'll be youtube and you use your other means...

[TAC]

Sent!

I'm in - will send tonight or tomorrow

Tomorrow??

[Train of Naught]

This should be called the mario kart roulette, because mario kart is the king of rubberbanding (you know, the act of rewarding badly performing players like myself to either bring down frontrunners or get closer to the front)

Anyway I think I'll send pretty soong!