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Soccer vs American Football?

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Re: Soccer vs American Football?
« Reply #35 on: June 19, 2018, 01:59:03 PM »
If you could get an advantage for your team by diving (as unfair as it is) in american football, the players would fall to the ground faster than you could look.

It's not that soccer players are more sissies than other players in other sports, it's because they try to cheat. And now don't try to tell me that in other sports people don't try to cheat. They just don't get an advantage by falling down easily.

And don't get me wrong, I'm not saying this is good, it is in fact the one thing that I hate about soccer.

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« Reply #36 on: June 19, 2018, 02:12:18 PM »
Fun Fact: I know a photographer that's on the NY Giant's payroll during the season. He got a killer sequence shot of that guy making that catch. He put four of photos in chronological order in a frame and sold it to the guy for $10K. In the off season he gets press passes everywhere. I've watched a game at Fenway from the press box with him.

That's really cool, I have a plaque in my basement with a picture of the catch and a ticket from the game (not mine, bought the thing at a sports collector store). 

My advice: Don't watch it if you don't like it. But don't begrudge others who enjoy extreme athletes running 10ks each game and still manage to dance with the ball on the pitch.

Yea pretty much this.   We all like what we like and there's nothing wrong with that.

If you could get an advantage for your team by diving (as unfair as it is) in american football, the players would fall to the ground faster than you could look.

It's not that soccer players are more sissies than other players in other sports, it's because they try to cheat. And now don't try to tell me that in other sports people don't try to cheat. They just don't get an advantage by falling down easily.

And don't get me wrong, I'm not saying this is good, it is in fact the one thing that I hate about soccer.

Yea, every sports there are cheaters, but in American football, the cheater is going to hit you hard not take a fall (well, yea that happens too, but typically its a more aggressive behavior when the player is trying to cheat in that sport).

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« Reply #37 on: June 19, 2018, 02:39:19 PM »
I get it - boring, no action, etc. etc. - but  there are two glaring falsehoods in this thread:   

- that soccer  is a sissy game;
- that soccer players dive because they're pussies.

There's not one person in this thread that could last more than the first five minutes of a match, and as Kwyjibo said, they dive because there is an advantage in doing so. 

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« Reply #38 on: June 19, 2018, 02:58:54 PM »
... and as Kwyjibo said, they dive because there is an advantage in doing so. 

Sometimes, but there are optics too. While they are playing to win and not entertain us, lots of people are put off by it.
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« Reply #39 on: June 19, 2018, 03:23:40 PM »
There are plenty of reasons to dislike soccer, but dives happen everywhere. It's part of the game. Any punter that doesn't fall, roll around clenching his knee, and scream like a little girl when he even smells a rusher doesn't deserve a roster spot.

And sometimes it even works.


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« Reply #40 on: June 19, 2018, 03:45:02 PM »
Gotta love this NHL ref's response to James Neal taking a dive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaCcB30Zc2Q
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Re: Soccer vs American Football?
« Reply #41 on: June 19, 2018, 03:48:17 PM »
There are plenty of reasons to dislike soccer, but dives happen everywhere. It's part of the game. Any punter that doesn't fall, roll around clenching his knee, and scream like a little girl when he even smells a rusher doesn't deserve a roster spot.

And no one likes when that happens either.  But I wonder if we can get a count of flops per game between all the sports.  I'd bet soccer tops the list, followed by basketball, maybe hockey then football next.

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« Reply #42 on: June 19, 2018, 03:54:58 PM »
Football (soccer as you call it) every day of the week.

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« Reply #43 on: June 19, 2018, 04:09:08 PM »
Gotta love this NHL ref's response to James Neal taking a dive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaCcB30Zc2Q

I'm partial to this rugby one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WMOHm01oKc

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« Reply #44 on: June 19, 2018, 04:10:38 PM »
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« Reply #45 on: June 19, 2018, 04:45:06 PM »
Gotta love this NHL ref's response to James Neal taking a dive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaCcB30Zc2Q

I'm partial to this rugby one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WMOHm01oKc

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« Reply #46 on: June 19, 2018, 04:47:13 PM »
How often to do you see something like this in soccer?


I am somewhat stunned at your comment here. Soccer is chock-full of amazing aerial stunts like this, I would argue far more than in Football. Can I presume you have never actually watched a full soccer game?

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« Reply #47 on: June 19, 2018, 04:59:34 PM »
The stamina for gunners are second to none.  American football is still my favorite but I love watching soccer for m as my reasons.
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« Reply #48 on: June 19, 2018, 05:22:53 PM »
Outdoor soccer doesn't have a lot of scoring, but the goals are amazing more often than not.

That said, I still prefer American football.

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« Reply #49 on: June 19, 2018, 05:28:57 PM »
Outdoor soccer doesn't have a lot of scoring, but the goals are amazing more often than not.

That said, I still prefer American football.

Indoor football also has a lot of crazy plays.  But no one prefers that  :lol

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« Reply #50 on: June 19, 2018, 05:34:15 PM »
Canadian Football also got some wacky rules, itself, but of course, no one cares about that outside of, uhhhhh, Canada (PS, I love Canada.)

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« Reply #51 on: June 19, 2018, 06:32:45 PM »

How often to do you see something like this in soccer?


Never. That'd be a penalty. :neverusethis:


Honestly though, soccer players are capable of unbelievable feats of athleticism, to deny them that via a one handed catch gif is simply ignorant.
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« Reply #52 on: June 19, 2018, 08:37:24 PM »
There are plenty of reasons to dislike soccer, but dives happen everywhere. It's part of the game. Any punter that doesn't fall, roll around clenching his knee, and scream like a little girl when he even smells a rusher doesn't deserve a roster spot.

And no one likes when that happens either.  But I wonder if we can get a count of flops per game between all the sports.  I'd bet soccer tops the list, followed by basketball, maybe hockey then football next.

Add every shortstop when a runner comes in hard during a double play, and half the players in the NBA when called on to actually play defense... the only sport where it's not too too bad is hockey, because you can get hurt diving (skates are sharp) and many penalties are delayed until the called team gets possession of the puck. 

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« Reply #53 on: June 19, 2018, 09:04:09 PM »
Spending all that time watching a game for it to end 0-0?  No thanks. 
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« Reply #54 on: June 20, 2018, 12:21:36 AM »
Soccer has fewer goals/points than most other sports, that makes each goal and the attempt to score that much more exciting.

What's the use of cheering for a point in basketball when there will be probably a hundred more?  ;)

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« Reply #55 on: June 20, 2018, 05:10:11 AM »
Spending all that time watching a game for it to end 0-0?  No thanks.

How is that any different than a basket ball game that ends 100-100 though?

It's not the amount of goals but the importance of the goals. Half the charm in football is that 1 goal can mean a lot and completely change the game. It's not like basketball or american football where one team gets points and then the other team gets points from their next attack.

I still like american football quite a lot despite the detriments (more breaks than actual playtime, very jump-start-y) just as i like football despite its flaws (cheating like diving or taking a long time gets a pass too often)

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« Reply #56 on: June 20, 2018, 07:57:56 AM »
The scores or lack of scores doesn't bother me.  0-0, 100-100, doesn't mean shit IMO.  It's about the game itself.  I've seen enough low scoring or high scoring games that were terrible in all sports.  The gameplay itself is what determines if it was a good game IMO, which can happen in a 0-0 game in soccer, or in the NFL, sometimes a 7-3 game is a fantastic defensive struggle, where the one big play changes the game.

There are plenty of reasons to dislike soccer, but dives happen everywhere. It's part of the game. Any punter that doesn't fall, roll around clenching his knee, and scream like a little girl when he even smells a rusher doesn't deserve a roster spot.

And no one likes when that happens either.  But I wonder if we can get a count of flops per game between all the sports.  I'd bet soccer tops the list, followed by basketball, maybe hockey then football next.

Add every shortstop when a runner comes in hard during a double play, and half the players in the NBA when called on to actually play defense... the only sport where it's not too too bad is hockey, because you can get hurt diving (skates are sharp) and many penalties are delayed until the called team gets possession of the puck. 

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« Reply #57 on: June 20, 2018, 08:35:53 AM »

How often to do you see something like this in soccer?


Never. That'd be a penalty. :neverusethis:


Honestly though, soccer players are capable of unbelievable feats of athleticism, to deny them that via a one handed catch gif is simply ignorant.
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« Reply #58 on: June 20, 2018, 08:41:42 AM »
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« Reply #59 on: June 20, 2018, 08:46:00 AM »
There's not one person in this thread that could last more than the first five minutes of a match, and as Kwyjibo said, they dive because there is an advantage in doing so.





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« Reply #60 on: June 20, 2018, 11:23:46 AM »
Exactly.  :)

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« Reply #62 on: July 11, 2018, 10:03:38 AM »
How often to do you see something like this in soccer?

Not to counter your example but your comment just reminded me of this spectacular goal I saw in a game last month.

Sigh, the biennual "lol, all soccer players are sissies and only dive". How imaginative. The fact that they are entirely unprotected and nonetheless keep playing with broken feet, dislocated shoulders or blatant consussions doesn't matter.

When you see soccer being played at the top level it is sublime what those people can do. It is the "beautiful game" as Pele put it.

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« Reply #65 on: July 12, 2018, 03:15:07 PM »
American Football hands down.  Why?  Cause I'm American and it's what I was raised on.  I played soccer in school as a kid and enjoyed it.  But as a spectator sport it bores me to death.  The game and athelete's are absolutley incredible, just not my cup 'O tea.

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« Reply #67 on: July 12, 2018, 09:25:44 PM »
I love both.
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