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The albums you wish hadn't existed
« on: June 07, 2018, 04:11:36 PM »
Albums so bad a band's discography would be better off if they never existed  :hat

I'm gonna start with my obvious and eternal gripe, DT12  :corn

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Re: The albums you wish hadn't existed
« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2018, 04:20:04 PM »
I'll be the first one to say Metallica's St. Anger.
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Re: The albums you wish hadn't existed
« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2018, 04:27:03 PM »
All Queensryche albums after Promised Land.

INB4 TAC changes "Promised Land" to "Empire." :P

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Re: The albums you wish hadn't existed
« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2018, 04:29:41 PM »
It's kinda hard because in general with bands i like (and care about) - even the lesser albums have good things about them (like standout songs).

Obvious meme picks like St. Anger or Lulu i can understand, though I think something like St. Anger is very easy to just ignore at this point since the band doesn't play anything from it live and fans hate it.

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Re: The albums you wish hadn't existed
« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2018, 04:31:17 PM »
Metallica - Death Magnetic.
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Re: The albums you wish hadn't existed
« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2018, 04:32:52 PM »
Albums so bad a band's discography would be better off if they never existed  :hat

I'm gonna start with my obvious and eternal gripe, DT12  :corn

No Illumination Theory?  God that would suck.

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Re: The albums you wish hadn't existed
« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2018, 04:39:17 PM »
It's kinda hard because in general with bands i like (and care about) - even the lesser albums have good things about them (like standout songs).

This.

And also in some cases the album turned out to be a turning point in style, that would be impossible to replace with something else. Or the songs would fare better in a live setting than on the studio recording.

My first thought was Pain of Salvation's 'Scarsick', which I seriously dislike, but then again, that album spawned some amazing live renditions on the live DVD 'Ending Themes' and not every song on that album is bad. To me it's just a shame (for lack of a better word) that their otherwise excellent discography is marred by that abomination.

In general, it's hard to say though, as I tend to ignore music I don't like and I generally don't care about the existence of music I won't listen to anyway. So 'wishing an album hadn't existed' isn't really applicable to me I suppose.
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Re: The albums you wish hadn't existed
« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2018, 04:56:04 PM »
It's kinda hard because in general with bands i like (and care about) - even the lesser albums have good things about them (like standout songs).

This.

And also in some cases the album turned out to be a turning point in style, that would be impossible to replace with something else. Or the songs would fare better in a live setting than on the studio recording.

My first thought was Pain of Salvation's 'Scarsick', which I seriously dislike, but then again, that album spawned some amazing live renditions on the live DVD 'Ending Themes' and not every song on that album is bad. To me it's just a shame (for lack of a better word) that their otherwise excellent discography is marred by that abomination.

In general, it's hard to say though, as I tend to ignore music I don't like and I generally don't care about the existence of music I won't listen to anyway. So 'wishing an album hadn't existed' isn't really applicable to me I suppose.

Scarsick is an interesting pick and I agree on a lot of it. I kinda got into the band through that live album so I have a soft spot for some of the songs, though as much as I dislike the album and parts of it are rough it still has songs like Enter Rain and Flame to the Moth that I would consider great.

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Re: The albums you wish hadn't existed
« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2018, 05:03:41 PM »
Queen 'Hot Space' and Styx 'Kilroy Was Here'.  Other bands have had one or more clunkers, but these two go on the Mt. Rushmore of 'WTW were they thinking'.
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Re: The albums you wish hadn't existed
« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2018, 05:29:13 PM »
Albums so bad a band's discography would be better off if they never existed  :hat

I'm gonna start with my obvious and eternal gripe, DT12  :corn

No Illumination Theory?  God that would suck.
Also,  The Bigger Picture, Behind The Veil, and The Looking Glass wouldn't exist.  That would really suck too!
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Re: The albums you wish hadn't existed
« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2018, 05:31:46 PM »
Falling into Infinity.

Aside from a couple stand-out songs, it has the band's weakest overall output
It's a weird period in their lineup history as they had a keyboardist playing on this one album, who contributing nothing of note, because the one they wanted wasn't ready to commit to them.
The band had differing visions of the album and its direction, resulting in conflicts that didn't enhance the final product any
They had a bad experience with an outside producer leading them to self-produce every subsequent album. 
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« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2018, 05:34:10 PM »
BOSTON - Corporate America.   :facepalm:
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Re: The albums you wish hadn't existed
« Reply #12 on: June 07, 2018, 05:35:28 PM »
All Queensryche albums after Promised Land.

INB4 TAC changes "Promised Land" to "Empire." :P

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Definitely.

In a vacuum, I have no problem with Promised Land. I mean, I feel it's very weak, but Queensryche had been so good up to that point, and enough people hold it in high regard, that as a single entry in their discography to date, then fine. The problem is that everything that came after it sucked, and therefore, it is, to me, associated with what followed than with what came before.
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Re: The albums you wish hadn't existed
« Reply #13 on: June 07, 2018, 06:10:18 PM »
Albums so bad a band's discography would be better off if they never existed  :hat

I'm gonna start with my obvious and eternal gripe, DT12  :corn

No Illumination Theory?  God that would suck.
Also,  The Bigger Picture, Behind The Veil, and The Looking Glass wouldn't exist.  That would really suck too!
The bigger picture is the only slightly salvageable song from the album and I'd be fine living in a world without it

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Re: The albums you wish hadn't existed
« Reply #14 on: June 07, 2018, 06:13:23 PM »
I tried to stay away from just "oooh, direction I don't like!" and go for something different.  I'm also that guy that if I like a band, I like a lot of their stuff; I LIKE Slaves and Masters (though the lyrics are worse than bad.  "Breakfast In Bed"?  Get out of my house!).   

But I would list Slaves and Masters because it shows someone being overly stubborn. Should've buried the hatchet with Big Ian and been done with it.   

Also, and hear me out, Bark At The Moon.  I love that record - except for the ballad - but honestly?  If given the choice between "BATM" or having Randy still alive and producing great music, I think I'm okay saying "Randy".

I might put VHIII here; they should  have tried harder with Dave in the wake of what I think is an excellent song, "Me Wise Magic".   

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« Reply #15 on: June 07, 2018, 06:19:06 PM »
Also, and hear me out, Bark At The Moon.  I love that record - except for the ballad - but honestly?  If given the choice between "BATM" or having Randy still alive and producing great music, I think I'm okay saying "Randy".

Not sure I agree. I mean, I'd certainly trade it if it meant another album with Randy, but Ozzy never released anything that sniffed BATM's jock. BATM is fantastic.
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« Reply #16 on: June 07, 2018, 06:23:32 PM »
Every Queen album after Innuendo. Their career ending with The Show Must Go On would have been perfect.
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« Reply #17 on: June 07, 2018, 06:24:38 PM »
Also, and hear me out, Bark At The Moon.  I love that record - except for the ballad - but honestly?  If given the choice between "BATM" or having Randy still alive and producing great music, I think I'm okay saying "Randy".

Not sure I agree. I mean, I'd certainly trade it if it meant another album with Randy, but Ozzy never released anything that sniffed BATM's jock. BATM is fantastic.

No, no, I'm with you; it was just the circumstances.  I really like that record a lot.  I was big into Randy, though, and it was like seeing your dad with a new woman.  I guess.  I've never experienced that.  But  you get my point. 

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« Reply #18 on: June 07, 2018, 06:40:02 PM »
Anything by Limp Bizkit.

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« Reply #19 on: June 07, 2018, 06:47:21 PM »
Temple of the Dog. I really, really cannot stand TOTD.
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Re: The albums you wish hadn't existed
« Reply #20 on: June 07, 2018, 06:55:07 PM »
If I had to pick a DT album to go here, it would be Systematic Chaos without question.   I like TDEN, but I pretty much drop a dookie on the rest of it.   

How about Cold Lake by Celtic Frost.   That might be one of the biggest WTF's in metal history.   
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Re: The albums you wish hadn't existed
« Reply #21 on: June 07, 2018, 08:04:07 PM »
Temple of the Dog. I really, really cannot stand TOTD.

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EDIT:  But you remind me:  Vitalogy.    The first two Pearl Jam records were Gossard/Ament's babies, and around Vitalogy is when the band started to feel the conflict that later led them to - consciously - cede control of the band to Vedder and take a step back.  They haven't been the same band since (to me). 

EDIT2:   Does the entire Nirvana catalogue count? 

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Re: The albums you wish hadn't existed
« Reply #22 on: June 07, 2018, 08:07:23 PM »
EDIT2:   Does the entire Nirvana catalogue count?

Unplugged In New York is awesome.
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« Reply #23 on: June 07, 2018, 08:09:16 PM »
EDIT2:   Does the entire Nirvana catalogue count?

Unplugged In New York is awesome.

Fair point.  I agree with you. 

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« Reply #24 on: June 07, 2018, 08:10:31 PM »
Yeah, there's something about it. I'm am most definitely not a Nirvana guy, but that album hit me at a certain point in my life where it really resonated.
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« Reply #25 on: June 07, 2018, 08:46:02 PM »
Temple of the Dog. I really, really cannot stand TOTD.

Dude.

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Homie.

Mi compadre.

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Dawg. Did I give you palpitations? :lol

I just can't do it, man. I do not like Chris Cornell's music at all, but especially that album.
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« Reply #26 on: June 07, 2018, 10:32:22 PM »
Temple of the Dog. I really, really cannot stand TOTD.

Dude.

Bro.

Homie.

Mi compadre.

Comrade.

Dawg. Did I give you palpitations? :lol

I just can't do it, man. I do not like Chris Cornell's music at all, but especially that album.

It's like you two are made to eventually clash on opposing opinions on an online forum.  REALLY?  You can't dig anything from Chris Cornell at all?  I mean I understand if you don't like either one of Soundgarden or Audioslave or any of his solo stuff or TOTD, but nothing?

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« Reply #27 on: June 07, 2018, 10:45:46 PM »
I like the album pretty well, but I'll admit that in this case I like the popular choice.  Hunger Strike is a fantastic song.

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« Reply #28 on: June 07, 2018, 11:01:09 PM »
It's like you two are made to eventually clash on opposing opinions on an online forum.  REALLY?  You can't dig anything from Chris Cornell at all?  I mean I understand if you don't like either one of Soundgarden or Audioslave or any of his solo stuff or TOTD, but nothing?

Stadler's my bro.  :biggrin: Nope. All of his songs just annoy me when I hear them, and unfortunately I hear them all the time. His voice is to me what Axl Rose is to others.
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Re: The albums you wish hadn't existed
« Reply #29 on: June 07, 2018, 11:41:04 PM »
Everything Queensryche did after Promised Land until they finally got rid of Tate, but especially Mindcrime 2. A couple of good songs apart, this should never have happened

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« Reply #30 on: June 08, 2018, 12:19:55 AM »
Why does this thread even exist? Every album ever made has its rightful place in the world, and deserves to exist.
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« Reply #31 on: June 08, 2018, 01:41:12 AM »
tell that to brokencyde

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« Reply #32 on: June 08, 2018, 02:36:56 AM »
Why does this thread even exist? Every album ever made has its rightful place in the world, and deserves to exist.

But sometimes the only rightful place is the dustbin.  :biggrin:

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« Reply #33 on: June 08, 2018, 02:41:53 AM »
In a sense I also wish that Savatage's A Handful of Rain hadn't existed - beautiful album, but it was Jon Oliva's way of coping with the loss of his brother Criss. Had Criss Oliva not died in his 30s in a car accident, Savatage's course would have been different and maybe they'd still be around.
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« Reply #34 on: June 08, 2018, 04:12:00 AM »
Coheed's The Color Before The Sun is the only one that comes to mind.