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Re: Who Had the Best First Four Albums
« Reply #35 on: June 07, 2018, 03:54:56 AM »
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« Reply #36 on: June 07, 2018, 04:27:18 AM »
Along with 2 already mentioned - Haken and Metallica - another couple that come to mind for me are Muse and Biffy Clyro.
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Re: Who Had the Best First Four Albums
« Reply #37 on: June 07, 2018, 05:00:15 AM »
The first four Boston albums are great imo!   My two favorites from them are the self titled debut, and Walk On..    Don't Look Back, and Third Stage are close runners up..
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Re: Who Had the Best First Four Albums
« Reply #38 on: June 07, 2018, 05:03:03 AM »
Most of my own examples have already been listed (Metallica, Camel, Led Zeppelin). To them I'd add Dire Straits, Godspeed You Black Emperor, Children of Bodom and Elliott Smith. If from that lot I had make my pick for 'best' (my personal favourite), then I'd go with Dire Straits, though I think Zeppelin's and Metallica's first 4 albums are far more 'culturally important'.
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Re: Who Had the Best First Four Albums
« Reply #39 on: June 07, 2018, 05:07:20 AM »
Let's also propose: Coheed & Cambria

Came here to post this. I know a lot of people aren't huge fans of SSTB (or NWfT either, for that matter) but I LOVE their first 4 albums!

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Re: Who Had the Best First Four Albums
« Reply #40 on: June 07, 2018, 05:20:02 AM »
I think the answers are different if you put it in the context of best 4 in absolute terms when compared to the best 4 from any other band, or the best 4 when compared to the rest of the library from *that* band.

If the latter, I think Boston would get my vote.  Everything after Walk On was tripe.

If the former, I'm sticking with Zeppelin.
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Re: Who Had the Best First Four Albums
« Reply #41 on: June 07, 2018, 05:23:15 AM »
Aerosmith
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Toys In The Attic
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Re: Who Had the Best First Four Albums
« Reply #42 on: June 07, 2018, 05:36:33 AM »
Aerosmith
Get Your Wings
Toys In The Attic
Rocks

Yeah, I had said them earlier in the thread. Definitely.
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Re: Who Had the Best First Four Albums
« Reply #43 on: June 07, 2018, 05:49:40 AM »
I'll nominate Kansas, Self titled, Song for America, Masque and Leftoverture.
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Re: Who Had the Best First Four Albums
« Reply #44 on: June 07, 2018, 07:09:47 AM »
If we're counting band that have more than four or five albums, I'll probably go with these:

Iron Maiden
Black Sabbath
Metallica
Camel
Queensryche

Also, I'll throw in Eels, although they're quite an obscure band around here. But might actually be the best pick for me.

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Re: Who Had the Best First Four Albums
« Reply #45 on: June 07, 2018, 07:11:09 AM »
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Re: Who Had the Best First Four Albums
« Reply #46 on: June 07, 2018, 07:22:11 AM »
The two that came to mind - Metallica and Led Zeppelin

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Re: Who Had the Best First Four Albums
« Reply #47 on: June 07, 2018, 07:22:39 AM »
If this means that the first four albums are my favorite four albums of the respective band, I got only one:

Thunder

If it means that the first four albums are really strong but there may be better/equally good ones later in their discography than a lot of those already mentioned:

Aerosmith
Van Halen
Dire Straits
Led Zeppelin
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Re: Who Had the Best First Four Albums
« Reply #48 on: June 07, 2018, 07:29:12 AM »
If we're counting band that have more than four or five albums, I'll probably go with these:

Iron Maiden
Black Sabbath
Metallica
Camel
Queensryche

Also, I'll throw in Eels, although they're quite an obscure band around here. But might actually be the best pick for me.

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Re: Who Had the Best First Four Albums
« Reply #49 on: June 07, 2018, 08:36:14 AM »
Well, to avoid the nonsense of the Plant thread, I'm sticking to MY FAVORITES here:

Sabbath and Zeppelin top the list.

Maiden, Aerosmith, Marillion, MSG, Queen and Kiss are not far behind.

I'd throw out for consideration:
The Cars
U2
Night Ranger (Dawn Patrol, Midnight Madness, 7 Wishes, Big Life)
Cheap Trick (CT, In Color, Heaven Tonight, Dream Police; add "The Flame" and that's essentially every CT greatest hits ever put out)
ELP (ELP, Pictures, Tarkus, Trilogy)

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Re: Who Had the Best First Four Albums
« Reply #50 on: June 07, 2018, 09:21:46 AM »
For me,  Haken, Pain of Salvation, Epica, Metallica, Ozzy come to mind.

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Re: Who Had the Best First Four Albums
« Reply #51 on: June 07, 2018, 09:24:21 AM »
Best ever?
Best in their genre?

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Re: Who Had the Best First Four Albums
« Reply #52 on: June 07, 2018, 09:34:23 AM »
Aerosmith
Agalloch
Alice In Chains
Black Sabbath
Budgie
Camel
Captain Beefheart & His Magic Band
Creedence Clearwater Revival
Dixie Dregs
Dr. John
Eberhard Weber
ELP
Estradasphere
Focus
Funkadelic
Grand Funk Railroad
Haken
Iron Maiden
King's X
Muddy Waters
Pekka Pohjola
Rory Gallagher
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Tom Waits (even though everything he released is good)
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Re: Who Had the Best First Four Albums
« Reply #53 on: June 07, 2018, 09:42:01 AM »
If this means that the first four albums are my favorite four albums of the respective band, I got only one:

. . .

If it means that the first four albums are really strong but there may be better/equally good ones later in their discography than a lot of those already mentioned:

It means Band X's first four albums are better than (or, since "best" is not an objective thing, that you like better than) any other band's first four albums.  What may have happened after the first four albums isn't relevant.


Best ever?

As opposed to?  The question does impose or imply any temporal limitation.


Best in their genre?

Genre is not part of the inquiry.  If you think Vanilla Ice's first four albums were better than any other band/artist's first four albums, then so be it.
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Re: Who Had the Best First Four Albums
« Reply #54 on: June 07, 2018, 10:03:19 AM »

Genre is not part of the inquiry.  If you think Vanilla Ice's first four albums were better than any other band/artist's first four albums, then so be it.

Perhaps it should be.  To call one bands first 4 the best to ever exist, over everything else in the world is simply impossible in my mind.

By at least imposing a genre... sure... that might be doable. Metallica might have the best 'first 4' albums out of Thrash.  so on and so forth.

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Re: Who Had the Best First Four Albums
« Reply #55 on: June 07, 2018, 10:06:47 AM »
Let's also propose: Coheed & Cambria

Came here to post this. I know a lot of people aren't huge fans of SSTB (or NWfT either, for that matter) but I LOVE their first 4 albums!
Lol I've been digging into their discography a bit more lately and No World for Tomorrow might just be my favourite of all their albums, is it really that frowned upon? Didn't care much for In Keeping Secrets though and I heard good shit about it.

As for thread topic, The Mars Volta probably wins this one for me. Come on, Frances the Mute, De-Loused, Amputechture and Bedlam In Goliath? All classics! I'm incredibly biased though.

Honorable mentions:

The Dear Hunter
Leprous
The Dillinger Escape Plan
TesseracT

Off the top of my head

Oh also yes would agree with The Deer Effekt, but man do I dislike their first album
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Re: Who Had the Best First Four Albums
« Reply #56 on: June 07, 2018, 10:27:56 AM »
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Re: Who Had the Best First Four Albums
« Reply #57 on: June 07, 2018, 10:41:58 AM »
Marillion
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Awe crap!  Marillion is a great choice!  I should have thought that!
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Re: Who Had the Best First Four Albums
« Reply #58 on: June 07, 2018, 11:02:43 AM »
Oceansize  :hat

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Re: Who Had the Best First Four Albums
« Reply #59 on: June 07, 2018, 11:06:18 AM »
Marillion
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Awe crap!  Marillion is a great choice!  I should have thought that!

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Re: Who Had the Best First Four Albums
« Reply #60 on: June 07, 2018, 11:17:25 AM »
Honorable mentions:

The Dear Hunter
Leprous
The Dillinger Escape Plan
TesseracT

Off the top of my head

Oh also yes would agree with The Deer Effekt, but man do I dislike their first album

Are you counting Aeolia for Leprous.  If not, they're absolutely in the running for me.  I even like Aeolia; I just wouldn't include it in a best 4 albums category.  Tesseract is a good choice too, though for my personal tastes, One has too much screaming.

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Re: Who Had the Best First Four Albums
« Reply #61 on: June 07, 2018, 12:27:27 PM »
Off the top of my head:

Black Sabbath
Led Zeppelin
Queen
Aerosmith
Iron Maiden
Van Halen
Metallica
R.E.M.
Blue Oyster Cult
Cheap Trick 
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« Reply #62 on: June 07, 2018, 12:32:20 PM »
This reminded me how many now legendary bands had debuts that, even now, are nowhere near as well-regarded as later albums. Most obvious ones for us are Dream Theater, Genesis and Yes. Maybe even Rush would come into this category as well.
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« Reply #63 on: June 07, 2018, 12:46:43 PM »
This reminded me how many now legendary bands had debuts that, even now, are nowhere near as well-regarded as later albums. Most obvious ones for us are Dream Theater, Genesis and Yes. Maybe even Rush would come into this category as well.

But WDADU .... so I can't say yes to DT's 4 first albums being best in the prog metal category, let alone above everything else that ever existed.


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« Reply #64 on: June 07, 2018, 12:56:13 PM »
This reminded me how many now legendary bands had debuts that, even now, are nowhere near as well-regarded as later albums. Most obvious ones for us are Dream Theater, Genesis and Yes. Maybe even Rush would come into this category as well.

But WDADU .... so I can't say yes to DT's 4 first albums being best in the prog metal category, let alone above everything else that ever existed.

I think that was RoeDent's point.  WDADU, Yes's and Rush's self-titled debuts, and From Genesis to Revelation all pale in comparison to the albums those bands are known for.  There are lots of big fans of those bands who've never even heard their debuts.  I've never owned Yes's debut and have only heard a couple of the songs as a result of owning the YesYears compilation.

Back in the 60s, 70s and early 80s, lots of bands were signed while they were still developing and finding their sounds, so it was much more common for a band's later efforts to be quite dissimilar to its debut.
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Re: Who Had the Best First Four Albums
« Reply #65 on: June 07, 2018, 01:13:43 PM »
Oh also yes would agree with The Deer Effekt, but man do I dislike their first album
Will agree that their first album is their weakest but it's far from bad imo
I like it more overall than any hypno5e album at the very least :neverusethis:

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« Reply #66 on: June 07, 2018, 02:08:14 PM »
Not sure how Marillion hasn't been mentioned yet.

Yeah, they're a solid contender.
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« Reply #67 on: June 07, 2018, 02:15:38 PM »
This reminded me how many now legendary bands had debuts that, even now, are nowhere near as well-regarded as later albums. Most obvious ones for us are Dream Theater, Genesis and Yes. Maybe even Rush would come into this category as well.

But WDADU .... so I can't say yes to DT's 4 first albums being best in the prog metal category, let alone above everything else that ever existed.

I love WDADU but FII let's the run down a little. But not much

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Re: Who Had the Best First Four Albums
« Reply #68 on: June 07, 2018, 03:17:02 PM »
Are you counting Aeolia for Leprous.  If not, they're absolutely in the running for me.  I even like Aeolia; I just wouldn't include it in a best 4 albums category.

I personally didn't count Aeolia when I suggested Leprous in this thread, because Leprous don't even count that album themselves. For the record, I do like Aeolia, but it's easily their weakest 'release' (that is, if you do not count the Silent Waters EP ;p ).
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« Reply #69 on: June 07, 2018, 03:54:42 PM »
This reminded me how many now legendary bands had debuts that, even now, are nowhere near as well-regarded as later albums. Most obvious ones for us are Dream Theater, Genesis and Yes. Maybe even Rush would come into this category as well.

But WDADU .... so I can't say yes to DT's 4 first albums being best in the prog metal category, let alone above everything else that ever existed.

I love WDADU but FII let's the run down a little. But not much

I&W and Awake are almost strong enough to overcome WDADU and (especially) FII.
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