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Which of these albums you wish had existed?

THE BEATLES - Post Let it Be album
LED ZEPPELIN - Ninth full album with Bonham
PINK FLOYD - Post The Final Cut album with Waters
DEEP PURPLE - Fifth album from the MK II lineup
DEEP PURPLE - Fourth album with Coverdale
DEEP PURPLE - Post The Battle Rages On album with Blackmore
RAINBOW - Fourth album with Dio
BLACK SABBATH - Ninth album from the original lineup
BLACK SABBATH - Follow up to The Mob Rules with Dio
BLACK SABBATH - Follow up to Dehumanizer with Dio
HEAVEN AND HELL - Second album after The Devil You Know
OZZY OSBOURNE - Third album with Rhandy Rhoads
AC/DC - Post Highway to Hell album with Bon Scott
IRON MAIDEN - Follow up to Fear of the Dark with Bruce
JUDAS PRIEST - Post Painkiller album with Halford
QUEEN - Full post Innuendo album with Freddie
GUNS N' ROSES - Follow up to Use your Illusions with the original lineup
DREAM THEATER - Post Awake album with Kevin Moore
DREAM THEATER - DT11 with Mike Portnoy
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The albums you wish had existed
« on: June 05, 2018, 07:55:49 AM »
Different idea (maybe) for a discussion, in the guise of a poll to spark it up.

Music history is full of legendary bands and likewise legendary line-ups, but we all know how musical differences, egos and sometimes even tragedy can tear apart a line up that never reforms again, or does so only 20 years later.

So I tried to think of big and historical line-ups cut short too soon, so hence the question: which additional album, that never came to be because the band split up or changed or someone died, you wish had existed? what's your biggest musical regret in the sense of "oh if only this band had stayed together a little while longer"?

Four choices to make it difficult. The poll is anyway an excuse to discuss albums that fate prevented to exist. I hope the inclusion of Dream Theater does not turn this into a keyboardists / drummers feud  :D
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Re: The albums you wish had existed
« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2018, 07:58:15 AM »
I chose 3:

-Ozzy with Randy
- Priest with Rob
- DT with KevMo
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Re: The albums you wish had existed
« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2018, 08:01:04 AM »
Queen with Freddy and Ozzy with Randy.

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Re: The albums you wish had existed
« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2018, 08:04:25 AM »
Ozzy with Randy
Rainbow with Dio


But I would also add Thin Lizzy with Sykes.
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Re: The albums you wish had existed
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2018, 08:05:49 AM »
Idk why, but I keep reading the first option as "THE BEATLES - Posh Let It Be album".
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« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2018, 08:08:39 AM »
Idk why, but I keep reading the first option as "THE BEATLES - Posh Let It Be album".

Posh Spice?


Ozzy with Randy is the obvious choice for me.  I put Ozzy with Sabbath, Deep Purple Post TBRO (I LOVE that album, by the way) with Blackmore, and ...  I forget.  EDIT:  Fifth Deep Purple album.

I would add: 
- Post-Clutching Marillion album with Fish.
- Post Tormato Yes album with Wakeman.
- Post Slide It In Whitesnake album with, uh, the Slide It In lineup.
- Velvet Revolver album with Myles Kennedy.
- Post 1984 Van Halen album with Roth.
- Post A Different Kind of Truth Van Halen album with Roth.
- Post Dig Out Your Soul Oasis album with Noel and Liam.
- Post Built To Destroy MSG album with Gary Barden.

I could do this all day, just about.

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Re: The albums you wish had existed
« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2018, 08:08:58 AM »
Controversial statement:  DT5 with Sherinian.  Not that I would trade it for what we got.  I wouldn't.  But in an alternate universe, I would love to hear what they would have done had they expanded upon Metropolis II with Derek helping write the tunes. 

Queensryche follow-up to HITNF had EMI not gone under. 
     Also, follow-up to Q2K had Kelly Gray stayed in the band at that point.

Whitesnake follow-up to 1987 had Sykes stayed.
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Re: The albums you wish had existed
« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2018, 08:16:16 AM »

Whitesnake follow-up to 1987 had Sykes stayed.


Very much on board with that one .

Would've really liked another Ozzy album with Jake E Lee too.
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Re: The albums you wish had existed
« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2018, 08:17:16 AM »
I would love to say Post Mob Rules Sabbath with Dio, but he followed that up with Holy Diver and Last In Line. I actually wish he and Vivian hadn't had a falling out. Would love to have gotten more out of that original Dio lineup.


Would've really liked another Ozzy album with Jake E Lee too.

Yeah, he could've made up for the suckage that is The Ultimate Sin.
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Re: The albums you wish had existed
« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2018, 08:21:00 AM »
I voted for:

Ozzy with Randy
DT with Mike


I'd like to add:

RHCP with Dave Navarro:  I'd love to see what came next for them with Dave. But on the same note Californication was such a massive phenomenon it's hard to want to see that.  Alternate Universe type scenario... really.

Marillion with Fish (already mentioned)
Megadeth with Marty Friedman (before the reunion)
Metallica: if they kept Mustaine
Metallica: If Cliff hadn't died
Sepultura: if Max and Igor hadn't left
GWAR: if Brockie hadn't died
Operation Ivy: If they hadn't broken up





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Re: The albums you wish had existed
« Reply #10 on: June 05, 2018, 08:35:39 AM »
Zeppelin, Maiden, GnR, DT KevMo were my picks.
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Re: The albums you wish had existed
« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2018, 08:37:01 AM »
I would've loved another Helloween album with Kai Hansen after Keepers Pt.2.
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« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2018, 08:43:09 AM »
I voted for DT with Kev, another Randy and Ozzy album and LZ.

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« Reply #13 on: June 05, 2018, 08:44:18 AM »
I would've loved another Helloween album with Kai Hansen after Keepers Pt.2.

Oh fudge. Yeah, that would be another one I'd love.
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« Reply #14 on: June 05, 2018, 08:59:39 AM »
Nothing on that list actually.  I might have picked Iron Maiden but ultimately I think his leaving for a while was probably for the best, and Accident of Birth and Chemical Wedding might not have happened otherwise.

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« Reply #15 on: June 05, 2018, 09:09:51 AM »
RAINBOW - Fourth album with Dio
HEAVEN AND HELL - Second album after The Devil You Know
QUEEN - Full post Innuendo album with Freddie
DREAM THEATER - DT11 with Mike Portnoy

Sadly, two of those are due to untimely deaths. I almost went with Bon which would have made three.

I could have chose other but I could go on for days adding to the list.
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« Reply #16 on: June 05, 2018, 09:26:11 AM »
Rainbow 4th album with Dio

Ozzy 3rd album with Randy

Black Sabbath with Dio after Mob Rules.

For my 4th pick I chose Other. 2nd Rainbow album with Powell & Bonnet

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« Reply #17 on: June 05, 2018, 09:26:52 AM »
I would love to say Post Mob Rules Sabbath with Dio, but he followed that up with Holy Diver and Last In Line. I actually wish he and Vivian hadn't had a falling out. Would love to have gotten more out of that original Dio lineup.

If you think about it, it was almost magical how everything fell into place for Dio.

His band, Elf, opened for Deep Purple just as they were about to experience turmoil, so he hooked up with Blackmore to form Rainbow.

Then he left after three albums - a crying shame because Dio and Blackmore together where gold, actually more than gold, they were golden platinum and sheer brilliance, but he left just at the right time to join with Iommi and do the two Sabbath albums, and right after he quit, he was in a position to do Holy Diver.

So in a way I regret that all these endeavors didn't last, but... one project going on more would have ruled out the other.

Nothing on that list actually.  I might have picked Iron Maiden but ultimately I think his leaving for a while was probably for the best, and Accident of Birth and Chemical Wedding might not have happened otherwise.

I agree with Maiden. A post Fear of the Dark album with Bruce would have not been great, and Bruce leaving let us have his solo carrer and then he returned anyway with the proper conditions to kickstart a reunion that lasts to this day.

And I forgot about Helloween. Yeah, another Hansen / Kiske / Weikath album in their glory days would have been awesome.
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Re: The albums you wish had existed
« Reply #18 on: June 05, 2018, 09:39:41 AM »
tool 5th album :neverusethis:

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« Reply #19 on: June 05, 2018, 09:42:11 AM »
tool 5th album :neverusethis:

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« Reply #20 on: June 05, 2018, 09:54:25 AM »
Interesting topic.  I went with:

Rainbow - fourth album with Dio
Black Sabbath - follow up to Mob Rules ("The Mob Rules" is the song...the album has no "The") with Dio
Judas Priest - post-Painkiller album with Halford
Other:  Rush - post-Signals album with Terry Brown producing

The thing with a lot of these is that you have to consider what you'd be getting.  Additional Beatles, Zeppelin and Sabbath with Ozzy albums probably would have been terrible because of personality comments and drugs/alcohol.

A third Ozzy album with Rhoads would probably be my fifth selection.

Maiden was trending downward when Bruce left (although FotD was a bit better than NPftD, so maybe).

Another DT album with Moore?  Maybe.  Another DT album with MP?  After SC and BC&SL?  No thanks.

Rainbow was never better than with Dio, so more of that would've been great if Dio staying would have tempered Rainbow's detour into a more commercial style somewhat.

Personality conflicts between Dio, Iommi and Butler would have made another Sabbath album with Dio a bit iffy, but I don't think it would have affected the final product.

Priest was on a HUGE upswing after Ram It Down and Painkiller, so more of that would have been great.

The Rush one is a no-brainer for me.  The decision to stop working with Broon was the single worst decision Rush ever made.
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« Reply #21 on: June 05, 2018, 10:02:18 AM »
I disagree with the Rainbow comment.  I actually like and even sometimes prefer the Joe Lynn Turner years.   "Fire Dance" and "Power" are as good as anything in the catalogue (well, nothing touches Stargazer, but after that...).

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« Reply #22 on: June 05, 2018, 10:03:19 AM »
Metallica: If Cliff hadn't died

I would've loved another Helloween album with Kai Hansen after Keepers Pt.2.

Yes and Yes!

And, speaking of Yes...

- Post Tormato Yes album with Wakeman.
- Post Slide It In Whitesnake album with, uh, the Slide It In lineup.

I agree with both of these!
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« Reply #23 on: June 05, 2018, 10:04:49 AM »
I disagree with the Rainbow comment.  I actually like and even sometimes prefer the Joe Lynn Turner years.   "Fire Dance" and "Power" are as good as anything in the catalogue (well, nothing touches Stargazer, but after that...).

I like the Turner years too, but they can't touch the three Dio albums (although maybe JLT never did anything as silly as "Do You Close Your Eyes").
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« Reply #24 on: June 05, 2018, 10:10:01 AM »
BLACK SABBATH - Follow up to The Mob Rules with Dio
BLACK SABBATH - Follow up to Dehumanizer with Dio
HEAVEN AND HELL - Second album after The Devil You Know
QUEEN - Full post Innuendo album with Freddie

Those four, plus a full on Revenge-style follow from KISS.

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« Reply #25 on: June 05, 2018, 10:17:07 AM »
Beatles
Led Zeppelin
Pink Floyd
Dream Theater

Also:
I wonder what Genesis would have come up with after Peter left.

Somebody posted Yes - Post Tormato, I actually thought about that too. But that would have meant that Drama wouldn't exist, plus the Paris sessions demos are .. well, .. let's day I'm glad Drama exists :)
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« Reply #26 on: June 05, 2018, 10:18:30 AM »
I wonder what Genesis would have come up with after Peter left.

I don't. ;D
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« Reply #27 on: June 05, 2018, 10:21:50 AM »
Also:
I wonder what Genesis would have come up with after Peter left.

That doesn't interest me, but Genesis if Hackett had stuck around (and been more prominent in the writing and production), maybe.
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« Reply #28 on: June 05, 2018, 11:06:23 AM »
Queen and Kevin Moore...

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« Reply #29 on: June 05, 2018, 11:11:32 AM »
Rainbow, Judas Priest, follow up to Awake and I wonder how a Pantera album after Reinventing the Steel would go :thinking:

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« Reply #30 on: June 05, 2018, 11:39:01 AM »

plus a full on Revenge-style follow from KISS.

That's an interesting one. I really liked Revenge. They kind of did a follow-up with Carnival of Souls, which I also really like. That was a stylistic change from Revenge, though. More grunge and sludgy.
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« Reply #31 on: June 05, 2018, 11:43:34 AM »
Jimi Hendrix - Rays of a New Rising Sun

This was the project he was working on when he passed. I read an incredible fiction novel called Glimpses by Lewis Shiner that went into depth about what the album was supposed to be.
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« Reply #32 on: June 05, 2018, 11:45:36 AM »
I actually only picked the Heaven And Hell option.

All of the other ones are conclusions of chapters, and most of them were a fine way to put an end to an era. Either that, or they weren't too great, so why follow them up? My pick is the only one where I feel like we really could have used one more record.

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« Reply #33 on: June 05, 2018, 11:47:18 AM »
I actually only picked the Heaven And Hell option.

All of the other ones are conclusions of chapters, and most of them were a fine way to put an end to an era. Either that, or they weren't too great, so why follow them up? My pick is the only one where I feel like we really could have used one more record.

I've tried convincing myself that a follow-up DT album with KevMo exists in a vault somewhere, only because I like to dream of what another KevMo record would sound like  :lol
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« Reply #34 on: June 05, 2018, 11:50:14 AM »
Rainbow with Dio

Don't care much about others, but would've liked to check out the next Heaven and Hell album, next DT with Kevin Moore and yeah, Helloween after Keeper pt. 2 with Kai.