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Re: Dream Theater going into the studio in 2 weeks
« Reply #665 on: July 17, 2018, 05:15:18 AM »
Perhaps a dumb question, but why are we assuming that an 8-string guitar would be strung with two strings tuned below the low-E on a standard 6-string guitar?  Why not string it, e.g., BEADGBEA?

Same reason we assume a 7 string isn't tuned EADGBEA. DT have generally used things as they are intended.

Well...wait a minute.  "as intended"?  As intended by whom?  The limited amount of googling I did on the subject indicated plenty of folks who have expanded in both directions.

By the way, I play a 5-string bass tuned EADGC, so....

People have been experimenting with adding higher pitched strings, though it is not popular on electric guitars, cause this string needs to be thinner and it makes it less break resistant. Imagine like 0.06 or 0.07 string gauge for E A D G B E A. Lots of interesting alternatives though, like open tunings (Devin FTW!) or B E A D Gb B E (like B Standard with added high E).

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« Reply #666 on: July 17, 2018, 08:56:07 AM »
As much as JP regularly experiments with and plays in alternative tunings, I think it's kind of silly to assume any given tuning on the new album, no matter how many strings are involved.  I also think it is equally silly to react strongly against the possibility of him using an 8-string before we've heard even a note of either any of the new material or him playing an 8-string in general.

I would say he experiments with a lot of dropped tunings but I didn't think he got into many alternate tunnings. Could be wrong though? Would be cool to hear him play in some open tunings and such.

He really doesn't do a lot of alternate tunings. Most of his stuff is standard, drop D, seven string standard, or a couple where the guitar is tuned down to C standard or drop C.
To my knowledge, he's only used (with some examples):

E standard (most songs)
D standard (Forsaken)
E flat standard (I think SOC and TROAE)
Drop D (Home, ONW)
C standard (ANTR)
A standard (These Walls)
A sharp standard (Panic Attack, Wither)
7 string standard (most 7 string songs)
7 string down a whole step (Illumination Theory)

It's possible I missed one or two, but I think I covered it. So mostly, he uses variations of the 6 and 7 string standard tunings, with the occasional drop tuning. But he doesn't use do any crazy alternate tunings like the Periphery guys or Mark Tremonti. I think it could be extremely interesting though if he tried. I use a couple of open tunings, which are extremely fun, and also very expansive for my writing. If I start to get writers block, grabbing a guitar in a different tuning really helps. In a way, it almost feels like picking up a different instrument which is fresh and exciting.

Yup, I think you're right - basically he just uses standard or drop D style tunings tuned to different keys. I agree that some open tunings might be cool.

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« Reply #667 on: July 17, 2018, 10:24:51 AM »
So.. any are there any non-musical nerds here other than me who want to talk about aspects of the new album other than string tunings?
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« Reply #668 on: July 17, 2018, 10:30:59 AM »
So.. any are there any non-musical nerds here other than me who want to talk about aspects of the new album other than string tunings?

Sure....given that the album hasn't even started recording (as far as we know), what aspects of this non-existent album would you like to discuss?  ;-)
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Re: Dream Theater going into the studio in 2 weeks
« Reply #669 on: July 17, 2018, 10:40:48 AM »
Pretty much anything that I can understand would be great  :biggrin:
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Re: Dream Theater going into the studio in 2 weeks
« Reply #670 on: July 17, 2018, 10:43:51 AM »
Pretty much anything that I can understand would be great  :biggrin:

The album cover will likely have pictures on it.  It will have words too, but don't fret over that.  They aren't that important.  :biggrin:
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Re: Dream Theater going into the studio in 2 weeks
« Reply #671 on: July 17, 2018, 10:56:15 AM »
I hear the cover will be in drop magenta hue.
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« Reply #672 on: July 17, 2018, 10:56:37 AM »
Pictures and Words would make an awesome title for an album!
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« Reply #673 on: July 17, 2018, 10:59:17 AM »
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watch this be DT's Black Album, neither pictures nor words

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« Reply #674 on: July 17, 2018, 11:00:11 AM »
Pictures and Words would make an awesome title for an album!

Or Images and Terms.
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« Reply #675 on: July 17, 2018, 12:16:23 PM »
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watch this be DT's Black Album, neither pictures nor words

I bet the cover's prevalent color will be black

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« Reply #676 on: July 17, 2018, 12:17:05 PM »
Pictures and Words would make an awesome title for an album!

Or Images and Terms.

Pictures and Terms (legit)  ;D

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« Reply #677 on: July 17, 2018, 02:31:38 PM »
Pictures and Words would make an awesome title for an album!

Or Images and Terms.

Pictures and Terms (legit)  ;D

Yup! :biggrin:
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« Reply #678 on: July 17, 2018, 02:48:31 PM »
Pictures and Words would make an awesome title for an album!

Or Images and Terms.

Pictures and Terms (legit)  ;D

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« Reply #679 on: July 17, 2018, 03:29:19 PM »
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watch this be DT's Black Album, neither pictures nor words

None more words.

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« Reply #680 on: July 17, 2018, 04:03:51 PM »
Now THAT was an awesome update.

John P on the DT FB page.

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« Reply #681 on: July 17, 2018, 04:11:23 PM »
Now THAT was an awesome update.

John P on the DT FB page.

Yep, that answers my question about tracking xD

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Re: Dream Theater going into the studio in 2 weeks
« Reply #684 on: July 17, 2018, 05:19:01 PM »
And also :

https://twitter.com/i/status/1019339256412758016
Was that a single bass drum I saw?

Easier to mic, takes up less room, and can still utilize a double pedal. I really hope the drums sounds great on this thing.

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Re: Dream Theater going into the studio in 2 weeks
« Reply #685 on: July 17, 2018, 05:32:41 PM »
And also :

https://twitter.com/i/status/1019339256412758016
Was that a single bass drum I saw?

Easier to mic, takes up less room, and can still utilize a double pedal. I really hope the drums sounds great on this thing.

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« Reply #686 on: July 17, 2018, 05:52:32 PM »
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« Reply #687 on: July 17, 2018, 06:16:39 PM »
I've been given Top Fan badge by Dream Theater on Facebook. Now every comment and post I make on their FB page has me labeled as a Top Fan. Huhuhu. Their fan interaction for this album is amazing.

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Re: Dream Theater going into the studio in 2 weeks
« Reply #688 on: July 17, 2018, 09:12:12 PM »
They finally started recording! :metal

It's interesting that we still have no clue on who's engineering/mixing the album. Might be a pleasant surprise and they want to keep it a secret for now...
It sounds like, "ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk." Instead of the more pleasing kick drum sound of, "gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk."

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Re: Dream Theater going into the studio in 2 weeks
« Reply #689 on: July 17, 2018, 11:55:21 PM »
Are they back in Bear Track?
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Re: Dream Theater going into the studio in 2 weeks
« Reply #690 on: July 18, 2018, 12:09:33 AM »
Are they back in Bear Track?
I think I remember hearing that Bear Tracks was torn down. Can anyone else confirm?
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« Reply #691 on: July 18, 2018, 01:10:32 AM »
And also :

https://twitter.com/i/status/1019339256412758016

I know hes just warming up in the video, but if its any indication of what the drum parts will sound like on the record, this might be Mikes most groove oriented album performance since he joined the band.
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« Reply #692 on: July 18, 2018, 02:26:44 AM »
And also :

https://twitter.com/i/status/1019339256412758016

I know hes just warming up in the video, but if its any indication of what the drum parts will sound like on the record, this might be Mikes most groove oriented album performance since he joined the band.

On top of that, listening to the video on my studio monitors, the snare sounds like it could be promising!
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Re: Dream Theater going into the studio in 2 weeks
« Reply #693 on: July 18, 2018, 06:04:47 AM »
I like how he mentions the studio and the seclusion and how that's important to this album.  It wasn't the first time he said it, but he keeps saying it, and I feel like this is really going to pay off.  The way they are talking to the fans and the look on JP's face, just looks like he's excited and it's making us all excited.

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« Reply #694 on: July 18, 2018, 08:20:00 AM »
I like how he mentions the studio and the seclusion and how that's important to this album.  It wasn't the first time he said it, but he keeps saying it, and I feel like this is really going to pay off.  The way they are talking to the fans and the look on JP's face, just looks like he's excited and it's making us all excited.

Yup totally agree. My original comment about recording where they demoed everything was that they couldn't because that place wasn't equipped for professional tracking, so DT proved me wrong by basically bringing in gear to outfit the place to be able to record there.  :lol

Looks like a nice setup, pretty clean and streamlined, some outboard gear, nice studio monitors looks fun. Also, MM recording with one kick drum is good, IMO. Easier to get good kick sounds with just one drum. They also have a good variety of room mics around the kit, hopefully some of that room vibe translates into the recording.

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Re: Dream Theater going into the studio in 2 weeks
« Reply #695 on: July 18, 2018, 08:25:35 AM »
You know what would be cool? For DT to release a full drum track of a song as a preview.

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« Reply #696 on: July 18, 2018, 09:03:14 AM »
You know what would be cool? For DT to release a full drum track of a song as a preview.

Hmm, that would be different for sure. Not sure if I'd like that or not.

I definitely like having the option of purchasing stems in an album package when the record is released, but as a first taste, I'm not sure.

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Re: Dream Theater going into the studio in 2 weeks
« Reply #697 on: July 18, 2018, 10:13:37 AM »
You know what would be cool? For DT to release a full drum track of a song as a preview.

That would be awesome.
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Re: Dream Theater going into the studio in 2 weeks
« Reply #698 on: July 18, 2018, 10:45:11 AM »
It makes no sense. It's like asking for a painter to preview a painting in the works, but just showing the brushstrokes of a certain color. It's incomplete and doesn't reflect the purpose of the entire project...

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« Reply #699 on: July 18, 2018, 10:49:57 AM »
People would be straining their ears to try to hear the song through MM's headphone bleed
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