2018 NFL Thread - The Dynasty

[El Barto]

The CFA near my parents in Jacksonville has people outside taking our order for the drive through before you even get to the traditional order screen for when its super busy.  THey do that for the In n Outs I've been to in LA.  It's kind of crazy how people really do love this stuff.  I think it's really solid fast food, but I am not waiting in some crazy line for it as that defeats the "fast" part.

Yeah, I was bitching about that the other day. They opened one around the corner of the shop and it creates traffic jams everyday. People spend 30 minutes of their lunch hour just waiting in a goddamn drive-through line to get a crappy sandwich. There's something very wrong with these people.

[pg1067]

What did all you crybabies do in the old days when a field goal would win it?

At least if you stop a TD,  you have a chance.

Exactly.  I really wonder if KC had won with a TD on the first drive in OT, if people would be talking about the OT rules.  The rules are fine.  If you give up a TD, you deserve to lose.  In NFL OT, you still get 2/3 of the sides of the ball on the field, special teams and offense/defense at minimum.  There's plenty of opportunity to win if you play defense first, heck just look at the earlier game where NO had the ball first and lost in OT because the defense showed up.

FWIW, I'm not whining over the rules, I'm just joining a discussion about a rule that I've always viewed as flawed.

So, apparently, some people can't understand why the Chik-Fil-A in section 123 will not be open for business during the SB despite that every single CFA around the country is closed every Sunday of the year.   

What I can't understand is why the company pays for a space in a facility whose primary purpose is to host sporting events that are held primarily on Sundays.  But I guess the company wouldn't do it if it weren't profitable.

The CFA near my parents in Jacksonville has people outside taking our order for the drive through before you even get to the traditional order screen for when its super busy.  THey do that for the In n Outs I've been to in LA.  It's kind of crazy how people really do love this stuff.  I think it's really solid fast food, but I am not waiting in some crazy line for it as that defeats the "fast" part.

In-n-Out is overrated AF.  Both Fatburger and 5-Guys are WAY better.  The shopping center near my house has both an I&O and a CFA.  The part of the center where the CFA is located is a mess when the drive-thru overflows.  The I&O has had an outside order person for a long time, and the CFA now has one also.  Both my wife and kids get cravings for CFA on Sundays.

[KevShmev]

The CFA near my parents in Jacksonville has people outside taking our order for the drive through before you even get to the traditional order screen for when its super busy.  THey do that for the In n Outs I've been to in LA.  It's kind of crazy how people really do love this stuff.  I think it's really solid fast food, but I am not waiting in some crazy line for it as that defeats the "fast" part.

Yeah, I was bitching about that the other day. They opened one around the corner of the shop and it creates traffic jams everyday. People spend 30 minutes of their lunch hour just waiting in a goddamn drive-through line to get a crappy sandwich. There's something very wrong with these people.

Agreed.  Get off your lazy asses and go inside!  We have a CFA about five minutes from work and I probably go there 1-2 times a week for lunch, and I never do the drive through.  Bunch of lazy asses. Yeah, sit there in the drive through for 30 minutes, while I go inside and am back in my car with my hot food in a matter of minutes.

[TAC]

I hate going through the drive thru for anything. Unless I'm only getting a cup of coffee. EVERYWHERE will fuck up a food order.

[KevShmev]

Exactly. And I always check my food before leaving to make sure it is correct (since I get the grilled chicken sandwich plain, and then add the honey BBQ sauce once I eat it).

[El Barto]

The CFA near my parents in Jacksonville has people outside taking our order for the drive through before you even get to the traditional order screen for when its super busy.  THey do that for the In n Outs I've been to in LA.  It's kind of crazy how people really do love this stuff.  I think it's really solid fast food, but I am not waiting in some crazy line for it as that defeats the "fast" part.

Yeah, I was bitching about that the other day. They opened one around the corner of the shop and it creates traffic jams everyday. People spend 30 minutes of their lunch hour just waiting in a goddamn drive-through line to get a crappy sandwich. There's something very wrong with these people.

Agreed.  Get off your lazy asses and go inside!  We have a CFA about five minutes from work and I probably go there 1-2 times a week for lunch, and I never do the drive through.  Bunch of lazy asses. Yeah, sit there in the drive through for 30 minutes, while I go inside and am back in my car with my hot food in a matter of minutes.

At the one I'm referring to you'll wait just as long for a parking space. It was a converted Del Taco, and they never even dreamed of needing more than 8 spaces.    In fact, I'm not even sure if dining in is an option. I don't see how one could actually get into their parking lot because of the drive-through traffic. On top of that, they share an entrance with a BK, and they've very likely rendered it impossible to get into their place. It really made me hate CFA a whole lot more than simply the Jesus thing.

[Stadler]

I don't think you need statistics to show that the coin flip is a random means of conferring an obvious advantage to whoever wins the coin flip.  The outcome in a small sample size does not necessarily reflect that.  I think this is one of those cases where you can just step back and use some "common sense" to know that it confers an artificial advantage.

But that said--so what?

Except that it's really not an "obvious" advantage. Even before the rule change in 2012 the winning percentage for the coin-toss winner was 52%. That doesn't take into account winning on the first possession, either.

And what I am saying is that merely looking at W/L statistics do not tell us whether or not there is an advantage.  That statistic is meaningless.  It only tells us what happened after the fact.  It does not tell us why, and it does not tell us whether there is any correlation to winning the toss.  There are too many other variables.  But virtually all of them tell us that winning the toss is usually an advantage.

This is very much with respect, but I'm pretty decent at math and you'll have to explain that one to me.  Coin flips over time are going to approach 50-50. That's why we use it as a sort of "random number generator" (of sorts).   Winning is the only outcome that matters.  If coin flips favor either team 50-50, and after the coin flip each team has a 50% chance of winning (same as at the start of a game) how is there an advantage?

Eh?  After the coin flip, each team does not have a 50% chance of winning. I'm sure there have been one or two times when the team winning the OT coin flip has elected to start on defense, but the overwhelming majority of OT coin flip winners elect to receive.  WHY?  Because the team in possession of the ball has a far greater likelihood of scoring than the team not in possession.  Is it the only thing that matters?  Of course not.  Is it necessarily the most important thing?  Maybe not, but it is a completely random event that confers at least some advantage to the winner, if not a significant advantage, and the whole point of changing the rule is to eliminate or minimize the importance of a random event.

Relative to the coin flip they do (the coin flip does not know or care who the QB is on either side).   I'm using Bart's numbers - 45 wins out of 87 chances, that's 51.7%.   If you want to argue that's not "50%", okay, but the "1.7%" is not statistically significant.

[cramx3]

The CFA near my parents in Jacksonville has people outside taking our order for the drive through before you even get to the traditional order screen for when its super busy.  THey do that for the In n Outs I've been to in LA.  It's kind of crazy how people really do love this stuff.  I think it's really solid fast food, but I am not waiting in some crazy line for it as that defeats the "fast" part.

Yeah, I was bitching about that the other day. They opened one around the corner of the shop and it creates traffic jams everyday. People spend 30 minutes of their lunch hour just waiting in a goddamn drive-through line to get a crappy sandwich. There's something very wrong with these people.

Agreed.  Get off your lazy asses and go inside!  We have a CFA about five minutes from work and I probably go there 1-2 times a week for lunch, and I never do the drive through.  Bunch of lazy asses. Yeah, sit there in the drive through for 30 minutes, while I go inside and am back in my car with my hot food in a matter of minutes.

From my experience, it's not much quicker going inside vs the drive through all things considered, at least at In N Out where I've done both to compare a few times before.  I've only had this issue once at a CFA so I can't say if their inside service is much faster. 

[Stadler]

Exactly. And I always check my food before leaving to make sure it is correct (since I get the grilled chicken sandwich plain, and then add the honey BBQ sauce once I eat it).

But even that is flawed; fixing a wrong order at the drive-through is excruciating.  Unless I have kids with me I go in. 

[KevShmev]

Exactly. And I always check my food before leaving to make sure it is correct (since I get the grilled chicken sandwich plain, and then add the honey BBQ sauce once I eat it).

But even that is flawed; fixing a wrong order at the drive-through is excruciating.  Unless I have kids with me I go in.

a) they never mess up my order, and b) I always go inside, so it would be an easy fix. 

[bosk1]

The CFA in my town can get busy during certain times of day, but it is NOTHING like the In N Out up the street.  Doesn't matter what time you drive by that place (even after midnight), the line of cars at the drive through is always around the entire parking lot. 

[jingle.boy]

What is this, the 'fast-food' thread now?

[bosk1]

So...Hardee's? 

[King Postwhore]

Who wants to talk about the greatest franchise ever anyway?

[bosk1]

Who wants to talk about the greatest franchise ever anyway?

Hey, nobody said you couldn't talk about McDonald's here.  Go right ahead! 

[Cool Chris]

This is what happens when you have two weeks between the conference championship games and the SB.

[King Postwhore]

 

I can't eat at fast food restaurants anymore.  Too much sodium.

This is what happens when you have two weeks between the conference championship games and the SB.

No doubt.

[rab7]

This is what happens when you have two weeks between the conference championship games and the SB.

The pro bowl is this week!

[cramx3]

This is what happens when you have two weeks between the conference championship games and the SB.

 

[King Postwhore]

This is what happens when you have two weeks between the conference championship games and the SB.

The pro bowl is this week!

I'd rather have a colonoscopy than watch that game.

[El Barto]

This is what happens when you have two weeks between the conference championship games and the SB.

The pro bowl is this week!

I'd rather have a colonoscopy than watch that game.

I don't know as I've ever watched a pro bowl. I've certainly seen more HOF games, and those are awful.

[King Postwhore]

In my youth I loved the All Star games but as an adult, these games don't represent how the game is really played.  I just can't watch them.

[bosk1]

I'd rather have a colonoscopy than watch that game.

[pg1067]

This is what happens when you have two weeks between the conference championship games and the SB.

The pro bowl is this week!

I'd rather have a colonoscopy than watch that game.

I don't know as I've ever watched a pro bowl. I've certainly seen more HOF games, and those are awful.

I enjoyed the Pro Bowl as a kid, but I can't remember the last time I watched one.  Since the NHL All-Star game will be on Saturday this year (which I assume was done so as not to compete with the Pro Bowl) and there will be no hockey on Sunday, I might actually tune in for a minute or two.  The NBA All-Star game is obviously the worst of the four major sports, but the Pro Bowl is a very close second.  The current format of the NHL ASG is really entertaining, so it's starting to give the MLB ASG a run for its money as the best.

[jingle.boy]

When it comes to All-star Games, the NHL is the closest to capturing any kind of real game vibe.  Since they went to a 3-3 format, it is fairly close to an actual 3-3 OT period.  Baseball... so many substitutions, there's no flow.  Basketball... the  Globtrotters vs the Generals is closer to real Basketball.  Football?  If it wasn't in Hawaii, would anyone even go?

Not that the NHL is like a real game, but it's the closest.  Players will actually play some defense once and a while.

[King Postwhore]

I'd rather have a colonoscopy than watch that game.

Good.  I'm due for one.

[cramx3]

Yea, Id rank the all star games:

Hockey > Baseball > Basketball > Football

Football is just too physical and too much strategy to throw into a game like that and it just ends up being so uninteresting.  Basketball is kind of fun but just really a shooting contest.  Baseball and hockey are the closest to being real games and I just enjoy hockey more.

[El Barto]

Aaaannndd, now you got a lawsuit on your hands.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2019/01/24/jets-jamal-adams-tackles-patriots-mascot-hospitalized/2669326002/

It really wasn't that hard a hit, but he did land on him and and blindside him. Probably not much visibility out of that head. More importantly, though, there could have been a woman in there, or 60 year old man. From what I've read over the years being a mascot is kind of a shit job (even if you're a famous chicken). Probably not the best idea to go around blindsiding random people who might or might not be able to take it. And that goes both ways. It'd be a much funnier story if the guy in the costume got up and taekwondo'd his ass. All the more reason to know your target.

[Cool Chris]

How long will the league front office maintain they had no access to any video to review for potential disciplinary action?

When I first saw "lawsuit" thought you were going to mention how Saints fans are suing the league.

[DragonAttack]

^
Same here.

[pg1067]

Aaaannndd, now you got a lawsuit on your hands.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2019/01/24/jets-jamal-adams-tackles-patriots-mascot-hospitalized/2669326002/

It really wasn't that hard a hit, but he did land on him and and blindside him. Probably not much visibility out of that head. More importantly, though, there could have been a woman in there, or 60 year old man. From what I've read over the years being a mascot is kind of a shit job (even if you're a famous chicken). Probably not the best idea to go around blindsiding random people who might or might not be able to take it. And that goes both ways. It'd be a much funnier story if the guy in the costume got up and taekwondo'd his ass. All the more reason to know your target.

Jamal Adams is a special kind of stupid.

[Rattlehead]

What an asshole  He should be sent home for that.

[KevShmev]

I can't eat at fast food restaurants anymore.

I can't do fried food anymore (not that any of us should anyway), so I can't do the yummy waffle fries at CFA anymore. 

CFA is the only fast food I do anymore anyway.

[dparrott]

ESPN gives the Rams a 52% chance to win.  As an LA native I want them to win, but this is Tom f'n Brady.  He's gonna go up there and pass pass pass and do his thing.  I'd give them more like 35-40%.  I'd be stunned if they won.

BTW I love fast food. 

[Dublagent66]

I like what I saw on FB.  "...and just like that, everyone's a Rams fan."