2018 NFL Thread - The Dynasty

[KevShmev]

It's fitting that Brady's 500th touchdown pass was a) a play where he had 8 minutes to throw, and b) a lucky as hell heave into double coverage that both DBs played wrong.  Talk about having the life, being that good and that lucky.

You should watch it again and see it from Gordon's perspective, rather than the guys that didn't make the play. I don't give a damn about Brady's 500th TD. I care a great deal that Gordon knew where he was supposed to be, acquired the ball in the air, saw where the defenders were, and made an excellent adjustment to split the two guys. What you described as luck and poor coverage looked like an excellent read and adjustment to me. Until that it was a pick waiting to happen. Gordon seems to be a total dumbass at real life, but he apparently has a pretty good noggin for football, and I'm encouraged by what I saw.

Definitely a great adjustment by Gordon.  That said, if either defender is looking for the ball instead of focusing on Gordon, they probably make a play on the ball pretty easily. 

[Accelerando]

I'm disappointed in myself. On my fourth pour of Knob Creek and successfully made a pun on the other sports threads but can't fuggin figure out one for the Packers 

[TAC]

I'm disappointed in myself. On my fourth pour of Knob Creek and successfully made a pun on the other sports threads but can't fuggin figure out one for the Packers 

I was going to say, after seeing the last two, that you didn't do it again! It was my CHIEF concern. 

[Accelerando]

I'm disappointed in myself. On my fourth pour of Knob Creek and successfully made a pun on the other sports threads but can't fuggin figure out one for the Packers 

I was going to say, after seeing the last two, that you didn't do it again! It was my CHIEF concern. 

Ah, you benched me! I aint going to Canton. Might as well PACK my bags and go

[TAC]

I'm disappointed in myself. On my fourth pour of Knob Creek and successfully made a pun on the other sports threads but can't fuggin figure out one for the Packers 

I was going to say, after seeing the last two, that you didn't do it again! It was my CHIEF concern. 

Ah, you benched me! I aint going to Canton. Might as well PACK my bags and go

How would you get there?

Drive a JAG?
Board a JET?

[Accelerando]

I'm disappointed in myself. On my fourth pour of Knob Creek and successfully made a pun on the other sports threads but can't fuggin figure out one for the Packers 

I was going to say, after seeing the last two, that you didn't do it again! It was my CHIEF concern. 

Ah, you benched me! I aint going to Canton. Might as well PACK my bags and go

How would you get there?

Drive a JAG?
Board a JET?

Ride on a DOLPHIN like a muthafuggin wizard

[Stadler]

I'm disappointed in myself. On my fourth pour of Knob Creek and successfully made a pun on the other sports threads but can't fuggin figure out one for the Packers 

I was going to say, after seeing the last two, that you didn't do it again! It was my CHIEF concern. 

Ah, you benched me! I aint going to Canton. Might as well PACK my bags and go

How would you get there?

Drive a JAG?
Board a JET?

Ride on a DOLPHIN like a muthafuggin wizard

These bad puns are a GIANT fail. 

[Accelerando]

I'm disappointed in myself. On my fourth pour of Knob Creek and successfully made a pun on the other sports threads but can't fuggin figure out one for the Packers 

I was going to say, after seeing the last two, that you didn't do it again! It was my CHIEF concern. 

Ah, you benched me! I aint going to Canton. Might as well PACK my bags and go

How would you get there?

Drive a JAG?
Board a JET?

Ride on a DOLPHIN like a muthafuggin wizard

These bad puns are a GIANT fail.

BEAR with us

[cramx3]

Giant fail? Sounds about right. Watching this team is taking years off my life.

[Dream Team]

Well everything WAS going well, Bengals were down 17-0 and Ravens were losing late, but of course lol Dolphins and Browns 

[TAC]

The refs still don't like the Browns.

[cramx3]

Refs don't like the Giants either, wow can't believe that game... and 63 fucking yards?! Guy is money. 

[Destiny Of Chaos]

Gano with an incredible game winning kick

[Accelerando]

Yeah that guy can hit a 60yarder... but Mason Crosby couldnt hit a freakin 30yarder AT ALL today 

[Dream Team]

Oh I love McVay’s guts there. That’s winning football in the modern NFL, none of that gutless conservative garbage.

[KevShmev]

Oh I love McVay’s guts there. That’s winning football in the modern NFL, none of that gutless conservative garbage.

I was just about to post this.  I love it when coaches coach with balls and to win, instead of being nutless and scared to lose.  Same thing with Pederson going for 2 at 20-12 (which is statistically the correct play there), although they still lost.

Oh, and Vance Joseph is the worst coach the Broncos have ever had.  You give up over 300 rushing yards to the Jets??  He was given a killer defense and turned it into trash.

[TAC]

You think he's still "having the time of his life"?

[Dream Team]

Do we say this every year? I think so, but it sure seems like a wacky first 5 weeks. Literally anybody could beat anybody. The BROWNS could easily be 5-0.

[DT2003]

Refs don't like the Giants either, wow can't believe that game... and 63 fucking yards?! Guy is money. 

Giants have been killed by bad penalties. The horse collar penalty (that was clearly not a horse collar) on I believe it was Jenkins last week was crap and the unnecessary roughness call on Collins today was absurd and had a huge impact in this game. Heartbreaking loss to take the lead and then lose on a 63 yard field goal. Have to give credit to Gano though. That kick probably would had 5 yards to spare.

[KevShmev]

It's funny that Jason Garrett and Bill O'Brien are offensive coaches.  I watch both of their offenses and marvel at the utter lack of imagination when it comes to play-calling on both sides.

[El Barto]

It's funny that Jason Garrett and Bill O'Brien are offensive coaches.  I watch both of their offenses and marvel at the utter lack of imagination when it comes to play-calling on both sides.

Why would you put that on Garrett? Linehan calls all of the plays, and we all know Garrett has no control over that.

[nobloodyname]

Do we say this every year? I think so, but it sure seems like a wacky first 5 weeks. Literally anybody could beat anybody. The BROWNS could easily be 5-0.

Certainly could, and should, have beaten the Saints (I was at the game... crushing) and the Raiders. But we'll happily take 2-2-1 today. First happy Monday in a while

[KevShmev]

It's funny that Jason Garrett and Bill O'Brien are offensive coaches.  I watch both of their offenses and marvel at the utter lack of imagination when it comes to play-calling on both sides.

Why would you put that on Garrett? Linehan calls all of the plays, and we all know Garrett has no control over that.

Because Garrett is the head coach and is considered an offensive guy, so his hand prints are (or at least should be) all over the offense, especially since this is what the offense has looked like in Dallas for years (just less talented pass catchers now).

[Stadler]

It's funny that Jason Garrett and Bill O'Brien are offensive coaches.  I watch both of their offenses and marvel at the utter lack of imagination when it comes to play-calling on both sides.

Why would you put that on Garrett? Linehan calls all of the plays, and we all know Garrett has no control over that.

Because Garrett is the head coach and is considered an offensive guy, so his hand prints are (or at least should be) all over the offense, especially since this is what the offense has looked like in Dallas for years (just less talented pass catchers now).

This is a team owned by Jerry Jones.  "Should be" hasn't been a legit thing since March 28, 1994.

[PowerSlave]

It's funny that Jason Garrett and Bill O'Brien are offensive coaches.  I watch both of their offenses and marvel at the utter lack of imagination when it comes to play-calling on both sides.

Why would you put that on Garrett? Linehan calls all of the plays, and we all know Garrett has no control over that.

Because Garrett is the head coach and is considered an offensive guy, so his hand prints are (or at least should be) all over the offense, especially since this is what the offense has looked like in Dallas for years (just less talented pass catchers now).

This is a team owned by Jerry Jones.  "Should be" hasn't been a legit thing since March 28, 1994.

QFT

[El Barto]

Yeah, Garrett is number 3 on the list when it comes to who to blame for offensive playcalling. Now, deciding to punt in OT is entirely on him, and Jerry seems bent out of shape about it, how they got there is on Linehan.

[Dublagent66]

JG is the head coach.  It's on him and it's also on JJ for keeping him in that job for far too long.  Ultimately, it's always JJ's fault cause he's the owner and GM.  JG is nothing but another one of JJ's good ole boys.

[King Postwhore]

It's a 3 headed monster that has different %'s of the blame pie.

[Dublagent66]

Yeah, but it's JJ's pie and it's usually all over his face.   

[King Postwhore]

 

[Dream Team]

Just for fun, my synopsis of what should be the current emotional state of the fan bases of the 32 NFL Teams:

HAPPY/CONTENT - Eagles, Patriots, Broncos, Seahawks - all with recent Lombardis and currently competitive teams except for Denver. Seattle fans obviously feel they let one slip away.
HOPEFUL - Rams - "we won after the 1999 season and our current team is a powerhouse"
CONCERNED - Giants, Ravens - "yeah, we've won within the last 7 years with our current QBs but they've pretty much sucked since then and we haven't done squat"
ANGSTY - Colts, Saints, Bucs - Won or played in SB within the last 10 - 15 years but further chances have proven to be very elusive
VERY GRUMPY - Steelers, Packers - proud legacy franchises with Lombardis within the last 10 years but currently wasting generational offensive weapons due to inept defense and poor coaching
ANGRY - Niners, Panthers, Titans - 4 total chances between the 3 teams since 2000 but fell short, 3 of the 4 being very close losses. Niners mollified a little by their history of success
PANICKY - Cowboys, Redskins - last SB wins were when mullets were still a thing and no one had heard of the World Wide Web, and not looking great in '18
STARVED - Texans, Jaguars - young franchises with several recent playoff ousters competing in the same division
IRATE - Dolphins, Raiders, Bears - last Lombardis pre-date (in order) Star Wars or Master of Puppets. Chances this year slim to none for all except the Bears
DOOM & DESPAIR - Chargers, Falcons, Bengals, Cardinals - total 5 shots at the crown but A. got blown out B. choked C. Got Montana'ed and Roethlisberger'ed
ON THE LEDGE - Lions, Browns, Jets, Chiefs, Vikings, Bills - SB wins 50 years ago, records for SB losses, or never have even sniffed the big one. Chiefs & Vikings looking to change the script this year.

[KevShmev]

  That is brilliant!  Well done.

As for Garrett, yes, Jerry Jones is way too much of a hands-on owner, but you can't tell me that the head coach doesn't get to put his hand prints all over the team, especially when it comes to strategy and system, and the Cowboys just look like a team with zero offensive imagination, and I put that on the head coach. 

[El Barto]

That is brilliant!  Well done.

As for Garrett, yes, Jerry Jones is way too much of a hands-on owner, but you can't tell me that the head coach doesn't get to put his hand prints all over the team, especially when it comes to strategy and system, and the Cowboys just look like a team with zero offensive imagination, and I put that on the head coach.

Yeah, as a life-long Dallasite I do get to tell you that. Garrett's role is to keep the players motivated and to decide when to call timeouts. Parcells gets to rework the team. Garrett gets to do what he's told.

[pg1067]

Just for fun, my synopsis of what should be the current emotional state of the fan bases of the 32 NFL Teams:

HAPPY/CONTENT - Eagles, Patriots, Broncos, Seahawks - all with recent Lombardis and currently competitive teams except for Denver. Seattle fans obviously feel they let one slip away.

To suggest that Broncos fans should be "happy/content" just because the team won Super Bowl 50 (>2 1/2 years ago) strikes me as rather naive.  Since winning the Super Bowl, the Broncos have been massive underachievers.  Despite having a formidable defense, the team missed the playoffs the past two seasons and seems well on the its way to missing the playoffs again.

Keep in mind that, since first making the playoffs after the 1977 season (the Super Bowl 12 loss), the Broncos have only had two streaks in which the team missed the playoffs for three or more years:  1980-82 and 2006-10.  The Broncos' fan base is neither accustomed to nor tolerant of extended periods of mediocrity.

I would say "concerned," "very grumpy" and/or "panicky" best describes the Broncos fan base.

[KevShmev]

True, but with three Super Bowl wins in the last 20 seasons, it is hard to be too bummed, although the current state of the team is bad. I looked at the schedule earlier today and it looks brutal, so my hope is they finish like 4-12, which will doom their doofus coach and hopefully Keenum.  Props to Elway for the work he did prior to the last few years, but he clearly has no eye for QB talent (Osweiler, P Lynch and now this).  It might be time to move on from him as well.  Next year's draft is supposed to be good for QB's, and there aren't many teams who will be needing one in the 1st round, so the Broncos could have their pick near the top!