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« on: January 31, 2018, 07:49:43 PM »
1 - What two people choose to do together, with or without clothes, in the privacy of their own homes, as long as both are consenting adults and nobody's getting hurt, is 100% up to them, as far as I'm concerned.

2 - Longtime DTF readers may recall a story or two by Orbert featuring a girl he knew in high school, actually the first he "knew" in the Biblical sense, who has since gone on to run some adult entertainment websites, and appears in some of the content.  Everyone has their own idea of what they like to do (see #1 above), but I'm pretty sure this is outside the norm.  Let's face it; anyone who's spent any amount of time surfing for porn has, intentionally or not, encountered stuff they're pretty sure they would never do.  Hey, if others are into that, cool; it's just not for me.

So imagine my surprise when I stumbled across a video featuring said former high school known quantity.  She looks different, but it's her.  The "credits" at the end included references confirming that, quite positively.

It's just... bizarre.  We're also Facebook friends, and interact a bit once in a while.  A comment here, a Like there, you know.  And on FB she goes by a slightly different name, but it's a variant of her real name, sort of (it's complicated).  And she's all normal -- well, normal for her -- on FB.  Which is why I know what she looks like now and know that it's her.  So I want to ask her "Really?  Fucking really?!"  Because it's really, really beyond anything I would even consider doing.  I honestly would not have ever imagined it.  Like, how do people even come up with this shit?  But there it was, and she was the star.  And I'm trying hard not to judge.  But... God damn!

No, I'm not telling her name or anything which would allow anyone to connect any dots.  I'm not even sure why I'm writing this.  I'm not asking for opinions.  I guess I just need to share how fucking blown away by this I am, and it's not like I can chat with Mrs. Orbert about it.  (By the way, this post is edited because she actually entered the room briefly, so I had to post what I had so far.)
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Re: Trying not to judge
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2018, 07:59:14 PM »
Do you turn all of your exes into porn stars?
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Re: Trying not to judge
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2018, 08:03:44 PM »
Just the one.


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Re: Trying not to judge
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2018, 08:36:30 PM »
Like, how do people even come up with this shit? 

The trite answer is because there is a market for it, she presumably identified it, and the potential to profit from it. The world needs ditch diggers, but as long as there is a demand for it, it will also need porn purveyors.
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Re: Trying not to judge
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2018, 09:13:07 PM »
Or, maybe she gets off on it. Plenty of people are into really weird shit. I don't begrudge anybody for their values, and that becomes even more important when the "S" word comes into play. Personally, I'm fascinated by weird people with bizarre lifestyles and experiences. I'd ask her all kinds of questions about it, and "really?" would definitely not be one of them. Hell, if she's happy doing whatever freaky shit she's up to, I'm happy.
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Re: Trying not to judge
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2018, 10:27:08 PM »
I read a basic summary of a study that was done a couple of years ago about the mental state of the women that work in the adult film industry. For the most part, they tend to be very healthy of mind. Society has this grand misconception that they are damaged in one way, or another, but overall it couldn't be further from the truth. Of course, there are always exceptions to the rule, and those are the few stories that get focused on. You say that she appears to be living a normal life on social media, and that's probably very close to the truth.
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Re: Trying not to judge
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2018, 01:23:23 AM »
Well, as long as she's doing it out of her own free will and she was not coerced into it... I guess you'll have to accept that's another side of her personality and what she likes to do. It's easier to accept this for strangers of course, but this kinda falls into the "our parents had sex to conceive us" category, we know it but we just don't want to think about it.
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Re: Trying not to judge
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2018, 05:53:53 AM »
The only things in people's sex lives I can't figure out or fathom doing are;
1) Eating each other's feces
2) A guy wanting his junk stomped on or kicked repeatedly.
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« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2018, 07:03:08 AM »
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Re: Trying not to judge
« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2018, 07:11:00 AM »
My blood runs cold
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Excellent reference! :lol
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« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2018, 07:13:50 AM »
The only things in certain people's sex lives I can't figure out or fathom doing are;
1) Eating each other's fece
2) A guy wanting his junk stomped on or kicked repeatedly.

I'm looking for a site where people are kicking each others feces......oh wait, heres DTF P/R.
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Re: Trying not to judge
« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2018, 07:15:34 AM »
My blood runs cold
My memories have just been sold

Excellent reference! :lol

Indeed.  I was nice seeing those tits again.  They've actually held up pretty well, considering their age.

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Re: Trying not to judge
« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2018, 07:26:43 AM »
So, uh... what kind of porn were ya searching for, Orbert? We need all the facts, you know.  :lol
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Re: Trying not to judge
« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2018, 09:22:32 AM »
I wasn't searching for anything in particular, actually, which I guess is why it caught me by surprise.  I was on one of those free sites which is basically all stuff people have cross-posted from pay sites and has anything and everything.  On the front page (which is "Latest Updates" or "What's New" or something like that), there she was.  Even in the little 2" square preview, I recognized her.

She's been doing this for many, many years.  When we first got back in contact -- it must've been the late 90's or early 00's, before Facebook and probably even MySpace -- we did some catching up via email, and she told me about some of the websites she administers.  She's quite proud of her work, as she should be.  But in nearly as many years of surfing for porn, this is the first time I've seen one of her videos posted on one of those "anything and everything" sites.  I searched for others, and nothing else came up.  Believe me, this is well outside the mainstream.

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« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2018, 09:26:40 AM »
She's been doing this for many, many years.  When we first got back in contact -- it must've been the late 90's or early 00's, before Facebook and probably even MySpace -- we did some catching up via email, and she told me about some of the websites she administers.  She's quite proud of her work, as she should be.  But in nearly as many years of surfing for porn, this is the first time I've seen one of her videos posted on one of those "anything and everything" sites.  I searched for others, and nothing else came up.  Believe me, this is well outside the mainstream.

I'm pretty certain with the collective powers of DTF's resources, we could find more of this actress/website administrator.

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Re: Trying not to judge
« Reply #15 on: February 01, 2018, 09:35:02 AM »
Or, maybe she gets off on it. Plenty of people are into really weird shit. I don't begrudge anybody for their values, and that becomes even more important when the "S" word comes into play. Personally, I'm fascinated by weird people with bizarre lifestyles and experiences. I'd ask her all kinds of questions about it, and "really?" would definitely not be one of them. Hell, if she's happy doing whatever freaky shit she's up to, I'm happy.

This. I would say we're way past "trying" not to judge if you're posting how blown away you are on a public forum.  :lol But don't take that as a sleight or anything. Everyone judges all the time; tiny judgements, prejudices and the like. Even more so when we don't understand them or what they do; ten fold beyond that when we once knew the person and find out something about them that wasn't known or even thought of.

I'm pretty sure there's more than one psychologist that would say you're so interested and bewildered because you're either aroused by it or in denial about being aroused by it. I would say it'd be pretty awesome to talk about with the missus, but I've also no doubt that one of the many reasons she'd be livid is because she'd float that exact same idea regarding your interest, and I'm gonna go out on a limb and suppose that you've thought of that.  :P

Get it out of your system, either physically or mentally. One thing is for damn sure, having her as a friend on Facebook isn't going to help your..."interests" (whatever those are) and contacting her about it is about the dumbest thing you could do because that shit will blow up in your face so horribly; and if your wife finds out about it at that point, I'd say that's a great story of a "how I got divorced" tale. Maybe think about deleting her on the social media realm if this is actually a thing and not just a random and fleeting "oh wow". I know you said you didn't want opinions or anything and you're probably not actually thinking about doing it, but if it was truly so far out of your mind, you wouldn't have posted it at all or floated the idea in any form.  :angel:

She's been doing this for many, many years.  When we first got back in contact -- it must've been the late 90's or early 00's, before Facebook and probably even MySpace -- we did some catching up via email, and she told me about some of the websites she administers.  She's quite proud of her work, as she should be.  But in nearly as many years of surfing for porn, this is the first time I've seen one of her videos posted on one of those "anything and everything" sites.  I searched for others, and nothing else came up.  Believe me, this is well outside the mainstream.

I'm pretty certain with the collective powers of DTF's resources, we could find more of this actress/website administrator.

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Re: Trying not to judge
« Reply #16 on: February 01, 2018, 09:39:49 AM »
She's been doing this for many, many years.  When we first got back in contact -- it must've been the late 90's or early 00's, before Facebook and probably even MySpace -- we did some catching up via email, and she told me about some of the websites she administers.  She's quite proud of her work, as she should be.  But in nearly as many years of surfing for porn, this is the first time I've seen one of her videos posted on one of those "anything and everything" sites.  I searched for others, and nothing else came up.  Believe me, this is well outside the mainstream.

I'm pretty certain with the collective powers of DTF's resources, we could find more of this actress/website administrator.

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« Reply #17 on: February 01, 2018, 09:50:19 AM »
Sorry for being a perv, but I'm not sure I care about the name/face of the actress, but I'm FASCINATED by what might be called "way out of the mainstream".  I don't mean that in a judgmental way, but where people draw the lines is interesting to me.  With 50 years of experience, I'm pretty confident that there is literally something for everyone, even Jeff the Vomit Guy (Stern fans, rejoice).  Can you give a clue/hint as to the content? 

The only thing that ever bothers me about any of this is when people say "Oh, you're into it.  You KNOW you are, you just don't want to admit it."   No, I'm pretty sure about what does and does not give me a boner at this time, and just because I watch something that is totally fascinating or something I will likely never see ever again (let alone done by someone who is model hot) doesn't mean there is a sexual interest in it, or that I want to do it or have it done to me.   You hear this a lot in the gay community; "Oh, everyone's a LITTLE gay!"   Uh, no, no they're not. 

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Re: Trying not to judge
« Reply #18 on: February 01, 2018, 09:52:26 AM »
You're obviously in denial.









PERVERT.


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Real talk though, I can understand that. A great example is the dreaded word that I'm pretty sure is still banned here regarding two certain people of the same sexe and one certain item and a whole lot of disgust. I had the immense displeasure of watching that after being linked to it, but I definitely would have watched it on my own eventually just to see, 1. If it were actually real and 2. Out of sheer curiosity. Granted, I abso-fucking-lutely completely regretted watching it and would never even consider that, but it was watched nonetheless. This coming from someone who is a proud pervert. But there are definitely some things that even the perverts will look at and say "WOW GROSS".
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Re: Trying not to judge
« Reply #19 on: February 01, 2018, 09:57:31 AM »
I think Uncle George has it half right. If we're going to psychoanalyze Orbert, and why the hell not, I'm with Stadler that he'd know if he were into this sort of thing or not. Sounds to me like it's something that repulses him and that's not the sort of thing your id is secretly clamoring for. At the same time he does seem a little too interested in this. I'd say it has more to do with his attraction to an old flame than his interest in her fetishes.
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« Reply #20 on: February 01, 2018, 10:01:29 AM »
Yeah, my comment about him being aroused by it was definitely full on tongue in cheek. I definitely don't think anyone with any interest in anything gets a massive erection by it. I'm not Freud.  :P

I don't have any doubts that a psychologist would float that idea though. But that's because most psychologists are full of shit and themselves all at once.

I'd say it has more to do with his attraction to an old flame than his interest in her fetishes.

For sure. It's always a big slap out of nowhere when we're so intimate and supposedly close in an emotional and mental capacity with someone and then find out something that we'd never even dream of them doing. It kind of breaks that supposition and it can be a little jarring.

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« Reply #21 on: February 01, 2018, 10:16:09 AM »
My comment wasn't really about Orbert; I know I can speak honestly and say that if I was in that situation, and the girl I lost my innocence to was in that position (and still looked good doing it), I'd be watching it on the daily.  It might be my screen saver.   I also think that if the act (and I wasn't kidding about that; I really want to know what the act is) was that far off the middle of the road, it would be bothersome.   After all, this is a girl that - at one time - found me attractive.   If a girl that found me attractive also found it arousing to slather herself in feces, that would be a topic of conversation at my next therapy session, I promise you.   

I was speaking more generically about the idea of judging others' predilections.  I don't think Orbert's case is exactly that, because of the personal component.   

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« Reply #22 on: February 01, 2018, 10:56:32 AM »
Yeah, it's something like that.  When I said I'm trying not to judge her because of her interests, I mean that in that most general way.  I still like her, we've always gotten along, and we've learned a lot from each other.  I've always known she's had a different side to her, one that I was invited to participate in with her once, and I declined, and this actually goes well beyond that, but I'm not going to stop chatting with her on Facebook or suddenly think that she's so far "out there" that I can't possibly communicate with her.

To me, it's like people who like a certain band, or a certain kind of music, and some people go "You like that shit?  Are you some kind of idiot?"  No.  We all have different things that we like, and things we don't like.  Obviously I'm circumlocuting the specifics of what I saw because it's not relevant here.  It's something I'm not into, which (based on the relative scarcity of the genre) apparently only a small percentage of people are into, but I don't think any less of her if she gets off on it.  I searched for more because I was curious to see how much of it there was, especially on a clearinghouse site, and to hopefully confirm my assumption that it's quite a niche market.  And maybe see some more of those tits.  Those I will judge.  They still look pretty nice.  :tup

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Re: Trying not to judge
« Reply #23 on: February 01, 2018, 11:43:41 AM »
Im really curious now as to what this lady is doing in this porn.

Anyway, I've seen enough weird stuff that I feel fairly unfazed by another oddity.  I can only imagine the reason to do something so odd, is either you actually enjoy it, or you are being paid a nice sum of money.  More power to you if that's something you are comfortable with.

I actually knew a girl in high school, we never hooked up but had some mild sexual moments, and she ended up in porn.  I found it really disturbing to watch for some reason.  I honestly thought I'd be turned on by it (the one I saw was a lesbian scene), but something about knowing the girl actually made me not want to watch it.  Sad story, she ended up dying of pneumonia which to me, meant this girl probably had other issues as healthy 30 year olds don't die from that.  Ended up being a pretty sad story.

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Re: Trying not to judge
« Reply #24 on: February 01, 2018, 12:23:48 PM »
Im really curious now as to what this lady is doing in this porn.

Anyway, I've seen enough weird stuff that I feel fairly unfazed by another oddity.  I can only imagine the reason to do something so odd, is either you actually enjoy it, or you are being paid a nice sum of money.  More power to you if that's something you are comfortable with.

I actually knew a girl in high school, we never hooked up but had some mild sexual moments, and she ended up in porn.  I found it really disturbing to watch for some reason.  I honestly thought I'd be turned on by it (the one I saw was a lesbian scene), but something about knowing the girl actually made me not want to watch it.  Sad story, she ended up dying of pneumonia which to me, meant this girl probably had other issues as healthy 30 year olds don't die from that.  Ended up being a pretty sad story.

I partied with Bella Reese three or four times at SCSU before she got into porn. She was a fuckbuddy of a guy in our group. I also got to hang out with Maserati (lives in the city I work in) once because she used to date one of my oldest friend's friends.

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Re: Trying not to judge
« Reply #25 on: February 01, 2018, 12:26:09 PM »
I am also very curious what genre of porn we are talking about here. The sexual deviant in me has just got to know  ;D

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« Reply #26 on: February 01, 2018, 12:27:19 PM »
I am also very curious what genre of porn we are talking about here. The sexual deviant in my has just got to know  ;D

Pretty sure it was hinted at in the OP

I honestly would not have ever imagined it.  Like, how do people even come up with this shit?  But there it was, and she was the star. :neverusethis:

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Re: Trying not to judge
« Reply #27 on: February 01, 2018, 12:42:16 PM »
Oh, it was there all along, lol. Its all good if she's down with the brown.   :yarr

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« Reply #28 on: February 01, 2018, 12:45:07 PM »
Yea I picked up on some shit references but wasn't entirely sure what was going on.

I will say, I am stained by a memory of a video that an extended family member showed me when I was younger.  I was like 16 or so and he was working on our house and was like hey come in I want to show you this video as he was sitting on my sisters computer.  It was a video of a guy shitting into a girls mouth.  It was pretty disturbing because I thought it was a porn, naked people and all, but then the guy just squats and does that.  I was disgusted yet laughing so hard.  I'll never forget that.

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« Reply #29 on: February 01, 2018, 12:48:44 PM »
Yea I picked up on some shit references but wasn't entirely sure what was going on.

I will say, I am stained by a memory of a video that an extended family member showed me when I was younger.  I was like 16 or so and he was working on our house and was like hey come in I want to show you this video as he was sitting on my sisters computer.  It was a video of a guy shitting into a girls mouth.  It was pretty disturbing because I thought it was a porn, naked people and all, but then the guy just squats and does that.  I was disgusted yet laughing so hard.  I'll never forget that.

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Re: Trying not to judge
« Reply #30 on: February 01, 2018, 12:54:12 PM »
Yea I picked up on some shit references but wasn't entirely sure what was going on.

I will say, I am stained by a memory of a video that an extended family member showed me when I was younger.  I was like 16 or so and he was working on our house and was like hey come in I want to show you this video as he was sitting on my sisters computer.  It was a video of a guy shitting into a girls mouth.  It was pretty disturbing because I thought it was a porn, naked people and all, but then the guy just squats and does that.  I was disgusted yet laughing so hard.  I'll never forget that.

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« Reply #31 on: February 01, 2018, 12:56:04 PM »
Oh, it was there all along, lol. Its all good if she's down with the brown.   :yarr


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« Reply #32 on: February 01, 2018, 01:10:37 PM »
I very well may have. My mind is such a gutter  :lol

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« Reply #33 on: February 01, 2018, 01:20:25 PM »
I remember when the big thing on Youtube was posting grandmothers' reactions to 2 Girls 1 Cup  :lol Priceless

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« Reply #34 on: February 02, 2018, 05:56:37 AM »
We don't know the genre, but we can take a pretty educated guess at one of the search keys. Mature.
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