i've always respected them more than enjoyed them.
And I enjoyed seeing them live with Bubblemath, multiple times from memory.
but I never could get fully into them; but since then I have gotten into the likes of UneXpect, Fjokra, SikTh, maudlin of the well, and even a schizophrenic band like Bent Knee, so I probably should be into them.
I should probably try checking them out again.
I just recall a lot of their sound is dissonant and in minor-keys and includes trash can percussion and whatnot, which can work when the songs include other rewarding parts.