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« Reply #2520 on: November 22, 2020, 07:53:48 AM »
Debating who has the better voice isn’t the issue. Eckstein is a voice actress....she’s made a career of it. And, her voice has become synonymous with Ahsoka. It ‘is’ Ahsoka. The patterns and fluctuations and ‘way’ she says things has made that character what she is. I can’t believe that they’ll ignore the importance of it. And, I can’t believe that (presumably) Dawson.....being the good actress she is.....wouldn’t have studied Ecksteins delivery and methods of speaking to try and emulate her in some capacity.

As far as the ‘look’ I’m 100% with you RJ, Dawson can capture it. Although my first choice would have been Carly Chaikin (she played Darlen on Mr. Robot) She captures the look as well. But I’m sure Dawson will be great.

This may be the case for all fans of TCW, but for casual/non-fans of TCW, it's not going to be terribly problematic.  I wonder how many watchers of The Mandalorian were full-on fans of TCW?  I get it quite possibly be a big issue for you, but for me (and others like RJ).... meh, what are ya gonna do.

Plus, voices change as we age  I know my voice isn't the same as it was 20 years ago.
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« Reply #2521 on: November 22, 2020, 08:04:01 AM »
Gary, I worry that you are setting yourself up for disappointment. I get that you're highly invested in Ahsoka as a character but I think it's highly unlikely that Filoni would ask Dawson to try and sound like another voice actor. I think the best you can hope for is that Filoni would insist on certain pronunciation of words.

For what it's worth, I agree with you that the character's story arch is probably the best in the SW canon.
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« Reply #2522 on: November 22, 2020, 08:12:40 AM »
Debating who has the better voice isn’t the issue. Eckstein is a voice actress....she’s made a career of it. And, her voice has become synonymous with Ahsoka. It ‘is’ Ahsoka. The patterns and fluctuations and ‘way’ she says things has made that character what she is. I can’t believe that they’ll ignore the importance of it. And, I can’t believe that (presumably) Dawson.....being the good actress she is.....wouldn’t have studied Ecksteins delivery and methods of speaking to try and emulate her in some capacity.

As far as the ‘look’ I’m 100% with you RJ, Dawson can capture it. Although my first choice would have been Carly Chaikin (she played Darlen on Mr. Robot) She captures the look as well. But I’m sure Dawson will be great.

This may be the case for all fans of TCW, but for casual/non-fans of TCW, it's not going to be terribly problematic.  I wonder how many watchers of The Mandalorian were full-on fans of TCW?  I get it quite possibly be a big issue for you, but for me (and others like RJ).... meh, what are ya gonna do.

Plus, voices change as we age  I know my voice isn't the same as it was 20 years ago.

This is very true.....and an angle I wasn’t considering. I was assuming most SW fans have invested the time to watch all the content.

I wonder what that percentage is?

Gary, I worry that you are setting yourself up for disappointment. I get that you're highly invested in Ahsoka as a character but I think it's highly unlikely that Filoni would ask Dawson to try and sound like another voice actor. I think the best you can hope for is that Filoni would insist on certain pronunciation of words.

For what it's worth, I agree with you that the character's story arch is probably the best in the SW canon.

I’m really trying to taper my expectations but as I’ve mentioned many times....she’s probably my favorite SW character so it’s difficult not to be excited and at the same time have high expectations.

I’ve seen nothing from Filoni/Favreau in this series  to indicate that I should be worried about them missing the mark with her. I’m confident they’ll do her justice.
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« Reply #2523 on: November 22, 2020, 09:48:56 AM »
I think the best that could/should be expected would be akin to how Mcgregor put the effort into sounding like Sir Alec.
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« Reply #2524 on: November 22, 2020, 10:34:35 AM »
Started watching the Gallery series. Taika Waititi, he's quite the character.  :lol
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« Reply #2525 on: November 23, 2020, 07:37:37 AM »
Another great episode. Hard to believe we're half way through the season already.

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« Reply #2526 on: November 23, 2020, 07:39:52 AM »
Another great episode. Hard to believe we're half way through the season already.
I know, right? Seems like we haven't made much progress toward the ultimate goal. Every episode seems to be primarily concerned about a side plot with only a tiny bit of movement made toward the main plot. Maybe that's OK. It's certainly been a fun ride so far.

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« Reply #2527 on: November 23, 2020, 08:36:36 AM »
Man I love The Mandalorian. Each episode just keeps me so entertained. Last one was great as always.
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« Reply #2528 on: November 23, 2020, 08:52:16 AM »
So, is Mof Gideon just a Vader wanna be? His outfit is very Vader-esque and his quest for power (and the force) is similar? Was he like just a huge fan boy of Vader back in the day and when he was killed decided that he'd become him then?
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« Reply #2529 on: November 23, 2020, 09:07:16 AM »
I still think his desire is tied to the Empire's Contingency plan which is to revive the emperor and create The First Order (Empire 2.0). I'm think this show will really bridge the gap between Episode 6 and 7 and either tie up the loose ends of Rebels or create a jumping off point for an Ahoska show to do so.

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« Reply #2530 on: November 23, 2020, 10:32:01 AM »
*sigh*  With all the references to Rebels, I guess I'll have to go back and give it another try.  But just the thought of slogging my way through it is giving me such a headache.  I just called it up on D+ so I could see how far into it I got last time I tried, and I apparently only got partway through S1, Ep. 4, before having to shut it off.  Man!  It was less than 4 full episodes before I couldn't take it?  How am I ever going to plow through the entire thing?  :lol
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« Reply #2531 on: November 23, 2020, 10:59:57 AM »
I still think his desire is tied to the Empire's Contingency plan which is to revive the emperor and create The First Order (Empire 2.0). I'm think this show will really bridge the gap between Episode 6 and 7 and either tie up the loose ends of Rebels or create a jumping off point for an Ahoska show to do so.
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Also, watched the Lego/Christmas special last night.  Really cute, though the trailer had left me with higher expectations.
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« Reply #2532 on: November 23, 2020, 11:26:09 AM »
*sigh*  With all the references to Rebels, I guess I'll have to go back and give it another try.  But just the thought of slogging my way through it is giving me such a headache.  I just called it up on D+ so I could see how far into it I got last time I tried, and I apparently only got partway through S1, Ep. 4, before having to shut it off.  Man!  It was less than 4 full episodes before I couldn't take it?  How am I ever going to plow through the entire thing?  :lol

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« Reply #2533 on: November 23, 2020, 11:50:43 AM »
Not going to wade through the Rebels or side character talk just yet, but agree with everyone that said the episode was amazing again.

I love how in the last two episodes it looks like the side quest Mando goes through gets tied to the main plot line with Mof Gideon. I loved the directing for all the episodes so far, the action has been a lot tighter and very entertaining. I guess I'm ok with the 35 mins or so episode if they are all like this. Only the opening episode was about an hour.
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« Reply #2534 on: November 23, 2020, 12:11:05 PM »
*sigh*  With all the references to Rebels, I guess I'll have to go back and give it another try.  But just the thought of slogging my way through it is giving me such a headache.  I just called it up on D+ so I could see how far into it I got last time I tried, and I apparently only got partway through S1, Ep. 4, before having to shut it off.  Man!  It was less than 4 full episodes before I couldn't take it?  How am I ever going to plow through the entire thing?  :lol

Really? Rebels was a far cry from TCW's as far as 'boring' in the early seasons. It's pretty action packed right off the bat. I know my brother recently binged the series in a matter of days and he commented how much more accessible and quicker paced it was. There are a bunch of cool storylines and action sequences.
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« Reply #2535 on: November 23, 2020, 12:13:17 PM »
jingle.son theories (not sure if there's his own, or the interwebz's):

- the quest for blood from The Child is to be able to clone force-wielding Jedi's.  Reference to the "M-count" surely must be midichlorians.
- the subjects in the life-sized test tubes are the first iterations of Snoke.

Yeah....I think Gideon is in the early stages of a Snoke clone and looking for the Midichlorians to give him the 'supreme' power. which is interesting enough in itself.....that'd mean that Snoke's power was none other than than our cute little kids own power.
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« Reply #2536 on: November 23, 2020, 03:48:19 PM »
What does everyone think the black robot looking things were? Lots of speculation that they're dark troopers (apparently something from an old video game) or that Gideon is trying to clone force sensitive forces somehow. I'm not sure how I'd feel about a Smoke tie-in, though in some ways it would be nice to have a little more explanation of who he is and how he came to be.

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« Reply #2537 on: November 23, 2020, 04:08:33 PM »


Almost didn't post because they call him "Baby Yoda" and not "The Child" but in the end I decided that this needed to be seen.

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« Reply #2538 on: November 23, 2020, 04:42:12 PM »
What does everyone think the black robot looking things were? Lots of speculation that they're dark troopers (apparently something from an old video game) or that Gideon is trying to clone force sensitive forces somehow. I'm not sure how I'd feel about a Smoke tie-in, though in some ways it would be nice to have a little more explanation of who he is and how he came to be.

This was the first thing I thought of (and jingle.son said "how do you know about Dark Troopers?" :lol).  If so, it's from Star Wars: Dark Forces.  Played the shit out of that game (on PC) at University, and then the sequel afterwards.  There's a rumour that Kyle Katarn is going to make an appearance in the series.

The Dark Troopers were a bitch to fight/kill.
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« Reply #2539 on: November 23, 2020, 05:35:18 PM »
The Dark Troopers were a bitch to fight/kill.

Good thing for Mando and the Child they’re about to hook up with one of the most powerful force users and fighters the Jedi have produced.
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« Reply #2540 on: November 23, 2020, 08:01:17 PM »
Supposedly if you had text assistance on (I think more than just the general dialog subtitles) they were specifically identified as Dark Troopers
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« Reply #2541 on: November 24, 2020, 09:17:10 AM »
I like The Last Jedi.  I really do.  But since the first time seeing it in theaters, there have been things that bother me that keep me from liking it more.  Aside from my specific issues with the casino planet and the entire side quest, perhaps my biggest issue is this:  I've just never been able to escape the feeling that, in putting together the main story arc with the fleet, somebody was like, "Hey, I saw this really obscure sci-fi series that I'm sure nobody else would have seen, and they had this episode where the entire fleet of good guys is running for their lives, but the bad guy fleet found out a way to track their lightspeed jumps, and shows up every 33 minutes to try to wipe out the good guys.  I think we should do something like that.  And don't worry about people making connections between any obvious similarities.  I'm sure nobody ever saw that other show."
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« Reply #2542 on: November 24, 2020, 09:21:36 AM »
I like The Last Jedi.  I really do.  But since the first time seeing it in theaters, there have been things that bother me that keep me from liking it more.  Aside from my specific issues with the casino planet and the entire side quest, perhaps my biggest issue is this:  I've just never been able to escape the feeling that, in putting together the main story arc with the fleet, somebody was like, "Hey, I saw this really obscure sci-fi series that I'm sure nobody else would have seen, and they had this episode where the entire fleet of good guys is running for their lives, but the bad guy fleet found out a way to track their lightspeed jumps, and shows up every 33 minutes to try to wipe out the good guys.  I think we should do something like that.  And don't worry about people making connections between any obvious similarities.  I'm sure nobody ever saw that other show."

I look forward to a similar reflection of disappointment in 2 years with The Rise of Skywalker, the film you claimed had 'nothing wrong with it'  :lol  :corn
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« Reply #2543 on: November 24, 2020, 09:30:10 AM »
I like The Last Jedi.  I really do.  But since the first time seeing it in theaters, there have been things that bother me that keep me from liking it more.  Aside from my specific issues with the casino planet and the entire side quest, perhaps my biggest issue is this:  I've just never been able to escape the feeling that, in putting together the main story arc with the fleet, somebody was like, "Hey, I saw this really obscure sci-fi series that I'm sure nobody else would have seen, and they had this episode where the entire fleet of good guys is running for their lives, but the bad guy fleet found out a way to track their lightspeed jumps, and shows up every 33 minutes to try to wipe out the good guys.  I think we should do something like that.  And don't worry about people making connections between any obvious similarities.  I'm sure nobody ever saw that other show."

 :lol   So true.

I appreciated Johnson's movie much more than JJ's two. TLJ was the best of the three for me due to it being more daring with the characters, especially Luke. I get why people were turned off by it but I think what Luke did to trick Ren was a far greater display of power as a Jedi than being physically present to have a cool light saber dual....plus Luke becoming one with the Force was really well done.

But the handling of Snoke was horrible....and again, I've yet to see any reason to buy in to Rey being as powerful as she is. Nothing earned....just written with convenient little tropes.

All three movies spent more time and did a better job of showing Kylo Ren/Ben Solo's journey and that's why he was the best character from those three movies. His arc was 'earned'
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« Reply #2544 on: November 24, 2020, 09:57:58 AM »
I like The Last Jedi.  I really do.  But since the first time seeing it in theaters, there have been things that bother me that keep me from liking it more.  Aside from my specific issues with the casino planet and the entire side quest, perhaps my biggest issue is this:  I've just never been able to escape the feeling that, in putting together the main story arc with the fleet, somebody was like, "Hey, I saw this really obscure sci-fi series that I'm sure nobody else would have seen, and they had this episode where the entire fleet of good guys is running for their lives, but the bad guy fleet found out a way to track their lightspeed jumps, and shows up every 33 minutes to try to wipe out the good guys.  I think we should do something like that.  And don't worry about people making connections between any obvious similarities.  I'm sure nobody ever saw that other show."

I look forward to a similar reflection of disappointment in 2 years with The Rise of Skywalker, the film you claimed had 'nothing wrong with it'  :lol  :corn

If that's what you take from my posts about either movie, then I don't think you really get what I have ever tried to say about either one.  But nice job trying to troll my posts, I guess?  *shrug*

I appreciated Johnson's movie much more than JJ's two. TLJ was the best of the three for me due to it being more daring with the characters, especially Luke. I get why people were turned off by it but I think what Luke did to trick Ren was a far greater display of power as a Jedi than being physically present to have a cool light saber dual....plus Luke becoming one with the Force was really well done.

But the handling of Snoke was horrible....and again, I've yet to see any reason to buy in to Rey being as powerful as she is. Nothing earned....just written with convenient little tropes.

All three movies spent more time and did a better job of showing Kylo Ren/Ben Solo's journey and that's why he was the best character from those three movies. His arc was 'earned'

To me, the JJ films were both better.  But I still love all three, so that isn't a knock on Johnson's.  In TLJ, I loved the Luke/Rey arc.  I also really liked the chase arc, for the most part.  I just felt, and still do feel, that it just suffered from being too derivative of an iconic episode of an iconic show that, unfortunately for Star Wars, was just done better in that universe than it was in the Star Wars universe.  When something like that happens, comparisons are inevitable, and the franchise that is less successful in doing that story is inevitably going to suffer the most from the comparisons.

As far as the character arcs that you mention:

Luke:  With you 100%

Kylo:  Yeah, it was satisfying.  And I agree with you on it feeling mostly earned.  But I still felt like the motivation for him to turn around so quickly and so drastically wasn't quite set up as well as it should have been.  The event itself--that duel with Rey and then the vision of Han--was awesome.  But I needed to see more seeds of doubt in Kylo before that, and I didn't.  He went from "I want to burn it all down because...I want to burn it all down" to "welp, I guess I am Han and Leia's son after all, so..."  I dunno.  I know the pieces were there.  I just didn't feel it like I wanted to, so the turn didn't feel 100% justified.  I felt the same way about Anakin's eventual turn in ep. III:  the pieces were there, and I could intellectually understand what they were doing.  But the execution of making me feel the emotional impact justifying his turn was lacking, so I didn't really buy into it.

Rey:  I hear you.  And I'm just going to have to disagree.  Yeah, her arc didn't feel "earned."  But, to me, it didn't need to.  I'll just leave it at that.
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« Reply #2545 on: November 24, 2020, 10:28:34 AM »
Rey:  I hear you.  And I'm just going to have to disagree.  Yeah, her arc didn't feel "earned."  But, to me, it didn't need to.  I'll just leave it at that.

Yeah...I think we've talked about this before. I don't know....I'm not claiming to be 'right'....I just didn't connect with her at all. Cool character and it's not that I hated her....her story just didn't resonate with me like Ben/Ren's did. But whatevs....still a cool character....I'd actually love to see more of Rey now that her story isn't bound and limited by the OT.

And for the record.....I enjoyed the sequel trilogy as a whole as movies and entertainment. I just don't see how they'll ever reach the iconic status of the OT....not that then need to but I just think it was a big miss for Disney as I'm sure they were hoping for iconic status.
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« Reply #2546 on: November 24, 2020, 10:28:48 AM »
I like The Last Jedi.  I really do.  But since the first time seeing it in theaters, there have been things that bother me that keep me from liking it more.  Aside from my specific issues with the casino planet and the entire side quest, perhaps my biggest issue is this:  I've just never been able to escape the feeling that, in putting together the main story arc with the fleet, somebody was like, "Hey, I saw this really obscure sci-fi series that I'm sure nobody else would have seen, and they had this episode where the entire fleet of good guys is running for their lives, but the bad guy fleet found out a way to track their lightspeed jumps, and shows up every 33 minutes to try to wipe out the good guys.  I think we should do something like that.  And don't worry about people making connections between any obvious similarities.  I'm sure nobody ever saw that other show."

I look forward to a similar reflection of disappointment in 2 years with The Rise of Skywalker, the film you claimed had 'nothing wrong with it'  :lol  :corn

If that's what you take from my posts about either movie, then I don't think you really get what I have ever tried to say about either one.  But nice job trying to troll my posts, I guess?  *shrug*

Can you ever just lighten up and take a joke or is there something going on that prevents you from ever taking a little good natured ribbing, good grief. Seriously haven't we had this conversation about 'taking a joke' like half a dozen times in private and public by now? I wasn't trying to troll FFS, just have fun. And you wonder why we butt heads.
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Re: Star Wars Discussion Thread v. Rise of Skywalker / Mandalorian (merged)
« Reply #2547 on: November 24, 2020, 10:31:03 AM »
Star Wars discussion on the interwebz is SERIOUS BUSINESS!!
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Re: Star Wars Discussion Thread v. Rise of Skywalker / Mandalorian (merged)
« Reply #2548 on: November 24, 2020, 10:35:56 AM »
I really thought the laugh emoji would've implied some kind of frivolity but apparently I need to add a few more!!!!11

Anyway, I'm looking forward to seeing Ahsoka in Mando  :corn
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Re: Star Wars Discussion Thread v. Rise of Skywalker / Mandalorian (merged)
« Reply #2549 on: November 24, 2020, 01:45:07 PM »
I like The Last Jedi.  I really do.  But since the first time seeing it in theaters, there have been things that bother me that keep me from liking it more.  Aside from my specific issues with the casino planet and the entire side quest, perhaps my biggest issue is this:  I've just never been able to escape the feeling that, in putting together the main story arc with the fleet, somebody was like, "Hey, I saw this really obscure sci-fi series that I'm sure nobody else would have seen, and they had this episode where the entire fleet of good guys is running for their lives, but the bad guy fleet found out a way to track their lightspeed jumps, and shows up every 33 minutes to try to wipe out the good guys.  I think we should do something like that.  And don't worry about people making connections between any obvious similarities.  I'm sure nobody ever saw that other show."
Sure, but then Star Wars films have always been pretty derivative, even the originals.

The Last Jedi is still easily my favourite of the sequel trilogy.

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Re: Star Wars Discussion Thread v. Rise of Skywalker / Mandalorian (merged)
« Reply #2550 on: November 24, 2020, 11:36:44 PM »
I envy all those who found Kylo's story and character engrossing. It did nothing for me.
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Re: Star Wars Discussion Thread v. Rise of Skywalker / Mandalorian (merged)
« Reply #2551 on: November 25, 2020, 01:49:10 AM »
I like The Last Jedi.  I really do.  But since the first time seeing it in theaters, there have been things that bother me that keep me from liking it more.  Aside from my specific issues with the casino planet and the entire side quest, perhaps my biggest issue is this:  I've just never been able to escape the feeling that, in putting together the main story arc with the fleet, somebody was like, "Hey, I saw this really obscure sci-fi series that I'm sure nobody else would have seen, and they had this episode where the entire fleet of good guys is running for their lives, but the bad guy fleet found out a way to track their lightspeed jumps, and shows up every 33 minutes to try to wipe out the good guys.  I think we should do something like that.  And don't worry about people making connections between any obvious similarities.  I'm sure nobody ever saw that other show."
Sure, but then Star Wars films have always been pretty derivative, even the originals.

The Last Jedi is still easily my favourite of the sequel trilogy.

Looking back now, I too feel that TLJ is my favorite of the sequel trilogy. The Force Awakens was a fun nostalgia trip, and an effective reset button. The Rise of Skywalker was way too focused on adding unnecessary story beats and connecting dots, rather than telling a good story and finishing the saga.

The Last Jedi to me, felt most like a complete movie. I really liked how Ben and Rey challenged each other to question what they believed in.

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Re: Star Wars Discussion Thread v. Rise of Skywalker / Mandalorian (merged)
« Reply #2552 on: November 25, 2020, 05:49:46 AM »
I envy all those who found Kylo's story and character engrossing. It did nothing for me.

Same. :hifive:
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Re: Star Wars Discussion Thread v. Rise of Skywalker / Mandalorian (merged)
« Reply #2553 on: November 25, 2020, 08:29:37 AM »
I envy all those who found Kylo's story and character engrossing. It did nothing for me.
I think his ending fell a little flat for me, but otherwise I thought he was a fantastic villain. I would have liked to see him die when when Rey stabbed him and realize the horror of what he'd done. That would have allowed Rey to be a badass and take down Palpy by herself.

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Re: Star Wars Discussion Thread v. Rise of Skywalker / Mandalorian (merged)
« Reply #2554 on: November 25, 2020, 09:42:00 AM »


Can you ever just lighten up and take a joke or is there something going on that prevents you from ever taking a little good natured ribbing, good grief. Seriously haven't we had this conversation about 'taking a joke' like half a dozen times in private and public by now? I wasn't trying to troll FFS, just have fun. And you wonder why we butt heads.



So. . . . you keep doing the same thing while expecting different results?