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Re: Star Wars Discussion Thread v. Rise of Skywalker / Mandalorian (merged)
« Reply #2450 on: November 15, 2020, 06:57:50 AM »
I've never seen any of the animated Star Wars, just bits and pieces.  I've seen names tossed around during discussions here and elsewhere, so I caught the Ahsoka Tano name drop, and I remember some of y'all mentioning that there are different "factions" (for lack of a better word) of Mandalorians, at least some of whom don't have a problem taking their masks off.  So that was interesting.  And yet, as the episode was unfolding, I never felt like I was missing anything.  The show gave me what I needed to know to understand what's going on, while at the same time, people more familiar with the backstories would get more out of it.  That's fine, too.  That's their reward for being up on all things Star Wars.

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« Reply #2451 on: November 15, 2020, 07:15:05 AM »
I think I'm like 18 episodes into S1, and it's a chore to go back each time, but I'm also avoiding a synopsis run in case I do want to go back, if that makes sense. Ahsoka gets so much love I really want to delve into her character before she makes her Mandalorian appearance but time just won't allow that.

I hear ya... jingle.son and I tried tackling it over the summer, but we stalled somewhere around the ep 10 point of S1.  It just wasn't terribly entertaining, and there's SO MUCH other stuff that's a higher priority.
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« Reply #2452 on: November 15, 2020, 07:40:52 AM »
I managed to watch through all of The Clone Wars, Rebels, and Resistance over the course of this year. It was mostly on in the background while I was working from home, so I can't say I caught every last detail. But it was mostly very entertaining and grew my appreciation of the Star Wars universe. It's kinda fun to catch those little nods to stuff from the animated world in the movies and now The Mandalorian. So far it hasn't seemed like you'd be missing anything by not having seen the animated series though. Hopefully it stays that way.

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« Reply #2453 on: November 15, 2020, 06:56:32 PM »
The Clone Wars is a chore to get through just because there is so much of it that isn't very good, especially in the early seasons.  But as you progress, there is more and more that is really good, that wouldn't have been quite as good without the added texture and depth provided by the earlier stuff. 
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« Reply #2454 on: November 15, 2020, 07:15:50 PM »
The Clone Wars is a chore to get through just because there is so much of it that isn't very good, especially in the early seasons.  But as you progress, there is more and more that is really good, that wouldn't have been quite as good without the added texture and depth provided by the earlier stuff.

Pretty good assessment. S3 for me it really caught it’s stride and the good heavily outweighed the bad. First season or two it was hit and miss. But you’re right.....it’s a catch 22 because you need that background and history of the characters (especially Ashoka) to appreciate their character journey.

I didn’t feel the same way about Rebels. I thought Rebels was great out of the gate and never stopped.
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« Reply #2455 on: November 15, 2020, 07:41:17 PM »
I'm thinking of starting Rebels sometime soon, are there any connections with the clone wars show? I'm assuming you can watch Rebels without having seen Clone Wars.
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« Reply #2456 on: November 15, 2020, 07:45:35 PM »
I'm thinking of starting Rebels sometime soon, are there any connections with the clone wars show? I'm assuming you can watch Rebels without having seen Clone Wars.

Nothing major that you’d need to enjoy it. The connections that they make are spelled out pretty good for you.

My brother started watching it last week and he said he watched the entire first season and a few episodes into the second in two nights.....that it’s a “lot better than he expected”

The story pumps along pretty good. Where TCW would lose you on some silly episodes Rebels co rubies to move it along with little if any ‘wasted’ episodes.
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« Reply #2457 on: November 15, 2020, 08:27:38 PM »
Thanks, that's kinda what I thought.
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« Reply #2458 on: November 16, 2020, 05:18:55 AM »
Most excellent episode this week - back to moving the story forward.  Cool to get more back-story of Mandalorian's in general.  That's gotta come back later in the season for sure. 

The Razor Crest is a bigger hunk of junk than the Falcon now.  That thing looks like a 6-year jingle.boy trying to make lego ships out of his spare pieces, cuz he can't afford to buy the kit.  :lol
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« Reply #2459 on: November 16, 2020, 05:32:12 AM »
Most excellent episode this week - back to moving the story forward.  Cool to get more back-story of Mandalorian's in general.  That's gotta come back later in the season for sure. 

The Razor Crest is a bigger hunk of junk than the Falcon now.  That thing looks like a 6-year jingle.boy trying to make lego ships out of his spare pieces, cuz he can't afford to buy the kit.  :lol

 :lol I loved his reaction when he got back into it!

This show is just so good. It's amazing how well they're pulling it off. IMO it's the best thing Star Wars has done in a VERY long time.
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« Reply #2460 on: November 16, 2020, 07:29:20 AM »
I agree The Mandalorian is the best Star Wars in a while. I just hope they have a plan for the overarching plot and a plan for the number of season so it doesn't just keep getting strung along since it's popular. I also hope they don't try too hard to use it as a vehicle to spin off other shows/movies.

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« Reply #2461 on: November 16, 2020, 08:15:19 AM »
Ahsoka gets so much love I really want to delve into her character before she makes her Mandalorian appearance but time just won't allow that.

Well, the Youtube video I've linked below does a really good job of giving an idea of 'who' she is as a character, it speaks to her close relationship with Anakin and as I said....paints a pretty good picture of her as a whole. If you're looking to 'understand' who you're about to meet on 'The Mandalorian' this would be the video to watch.


BUT......it is comprised of clips from both The Clone Wars and Rebels which makes it filled with spoilers if you plan to watch either or both those series you'll see action sequences, characters, etc etc that may surprise you and/or leave you wondering what, why and how it's happening. But it's a good 'hype' video so it may make you want to delve into Rebels and TCW's.

Anyway, here's the link but again for anyone who plans on watching TCW's and/or Rebels....you'll be exposed to images/characters from those series......so watch at the risk of being spoiled



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« Reply #2462 on: November 16, 2020, 05:39:47 PM »
For those who want to learn a bit about Ahsokanwithout spending weeks catching up, that YouTube video above is good. I'd also suggest watching the last four episodes of The Clone Wars. They're pretty fantastic and give good insight into where her story leaves off.

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« Reply #2463 on: November 16, 2020, 06:00:23 PM »
For those who want to learn a bit about Ahsokanwithout spending weeks catching up, that YouTube video above is good. I'd also suggest watching the last four episodes of The Clone Wars. They're pretty fantastic and give good insight into where her story leaves off.

I personally consider Those last 4 episodes of Clone Wars some of the best SW material ever. From the score to the action to the animation.....incredible. I’d suggest watching them all at once.
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« Reply #2464 on: November 16, 2020, 06:29:03 PM »
For those who want to learn a bit about Ahsokanwithout spending weeks catching up, that YouTube video above is good. I'd also suggest watching the last four episodes of The Clone Wars. They're pretty fantastic and give good insight into where her story leaves off.

I personally consider Those last 4 episodes of Clone Wars some of the best SW material ever. From the score to the action to the animation.....incredible. I’d suggest watching them all at once.

Are you talking the last four from the season just released? If I'm truly honest with myself, I'll never commit to watching it all the way through  :lol

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« Reply #2465 on: November 16, 2020, 07:10:27 PM »
For those who want to learn a bit about Ahsokanwithout spending weeks catching up, that YouTube video above is good. I'd also suggest watching the last four episodes of The Clone Wars. They're pretty fantastic and give good insight into where her story leaves off.

I personally consider Those last 4 episodes of Clone Wars some of the best SW material ever. From the score to the action to the animation.....incredible. I’d suggest watching them all at once.

Are you talking the last four from the season just released? If I'm truly honest with myself, I'll never commit to watching it all the way through  :lol
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« Reply #2466 on: November 16, 2020, 07:52:09 PM »
I personally consider Those last 4 episodes of Clone Wars some of the best SW material ever.

Well, maybe some of the best animated SW material ever.  But it should be stressed that that is a VERY low bar. 
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« Reply #2467 on: November 16, 2020, 08:18:14 PM »
I personally consider Those last 4 episodes of Clone Wars some of the best SW material ever.

Well, maybe some of the best animated SW material ever.  But it should be stressed that that is a VERY low bar.

Nah....for me I place those last 4 episodes above any of the Prequals, Solo, and Rise of Skywalker (strictly based on the huge whiff they had with not actually having Anakin Skywalker ‘rise’ to defeat Palpatine)

I get it.....you and I have different opinions on the animated series out there and even Ashoka.....but, they are just our opinions. Neither is cannon.
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« Reply #2468 on: November 17, 2020, 07:54:16 AM »
Oh, Gina... why you gotta be controversial?  le sigh
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« Reply #2469 on: November 17, 2020, 07:59:46 AM »
Oh, Gina... why you gotta be controversial?  le sigh

I’m more disappointed that people can’t handle her having different views and are demanding she be fired.

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« Reply #2470 on: November 17, 2020, 08:03:39 AM »
Oh, Gina... why you gotta be controversial?  le sigh

I’m more disappointed that people can’t handle her having different views and are demanding she be fired.

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« Reply #2471 on: November 17, 2020, 08:05:15 AM »
Oh, Gina... why you gotta be controversial?  le sigh

I’m more disappointed that people can’t handle her having different views and are demanding she be fired.

Totally this. It's ridiculous. The only controversy is that she isn't toeing the Hollywood line of being a liberal. Trying to get someone fired because they don't think like you.....that's the sad state of affairs we are in these days.
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« Reply #2472 on: November 17, 2020, 08:25:33 AM »
What happened?
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« Reply #2473 on: November 17, 2020, 08:29:22 AM »
Oh, Gina... why you gotta be controversial?  le sigh

I’m more disappointed that people can’t handle her having different views and are demanding she be fired.

Totally this. It's ridiculous. The only controversy is that she isn't toeing the Hollywood line of being a liberal. Trying to get someone fired because they don't think like you.....that's the sad state of affairs we are in these days.

I'm with you on the 'fired' part.  I don't have a problem with people being "outraged" - frankly, I'm pissed at any anti-masker.  I should've clarified that I'm annoyed with both - cancel culture from Social Justice Warriors strikes again!  Hopefully it simmers down before Disney feels they need to take action.
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« Reply #2474 on: November 17, 2020, 08:32:25 AM »
Oh, Gina... why you gotta be controversial?  le sigh

I’m more disappointed that people can’t handle her having different views and are demanding she be fired.

Totally this. It's ridiculous. The only controversy is that she isn't toeing the Hollywood line of being a liberal. Trying to get someone fired because they don't think like you.....that's the sad state of affairs we are in these days.

I'm with you on the 'fired' part.  I don't have a problem with people being "outraged" - frankly, I'm pissed at any anti-masker.  I should've clarified that I'm annoyed with both - cancel culture from Social Justice Warriors strikes again!  Hopefully it simmers down before Disney feels they need to take action.

Totally. I don't agree with what she's saying.....it's the idea that she can now lose her job and it's being begged of her to lose it.....just because she's using her freedom of speech.
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« Reply #2476 on: November 17, 2020, 08:53:20 AM »
Oh, Gina... why you gotta be controversial?  le sigh

I’m more disappointed that people can’t handle her having different views and are demanding she be fired.

Totally this. It's ridiculous. The only controversy is that she isn't toeing the Hollywood line of being a liberal. Trying to get someone fired because they don't think like you.....that's the sad state of affairs we are in these days.

I'm with you on the 'fired' part.  I don't have a problem with people being "outraged" - frankly, I'm pissed at any anti-masker.  I should've clarified that I'm annoyed with both - cancel culture from Social Justice Warriors strikes again!  Hopefully it simmers down before Disney feels they need to take action.

Totally. I don't agree with what she's saying.....it's the idea that she can now lose her job and it's being begged of her to lose it.....just because she's using her freedom of speech.
I dunno, I mean freedom of speech means she can't be arrested and obviously she isn't, but it doesn't mean individual companies wouldn't consider it breaks their code of ethics/values/whatever. I don't see that as "cancel culture". I'm not saying that's the case here for Disney, but it wouldn't be unreasonable for them to do so. She's saying some pretty damn irresponsible stuff.


What happened?

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« Reply #2477 on: November 17, 2020, 08:56:47 AM »
I dunno, I mean freedom of speech means she can't be arrested and obviously she isn't, but it doesn't mean individual companies wouldn't consider it breaks their code of ethics/values/whatever. I don't see that as "cancel culture". I'm not saying that's the case here for Disney, but it wouldn't be unreasonable for them to do so. She's saying some pretty damn irresponsible stuff.

And some rather bizarre stuff from what mrs.jingle quickly read to me.
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« Reply #2478 on: November 17, 2020, 08:58:39 AM »
Disney should not fire her because "fans" are calling for it. BTW... I suspect many of these so-called fans don't really care about Star Wars or The Mandalorian, but are just people who love to get themselves fired up about anything and everything. If Disney deems her to be in violation of of any terms of her contract, by all means they can fire her. I'm pretty sure there's fine print in my employment stuff that anything I say on social media that potentially results in negative attention being brought towards my company can result in my dismissal.

Honestly, I'd love for Disney, or any of the other media companies going through similar things, to just come out and say "We do not fire employees because they have differing political beliefs than ours."

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« Reply #2479 on: November 17, 2020, 08:59:18 AM »
Oh, Gina... why you gotta be controversial?  le sigh

I’m more disappointed that people can’t handle her having different views and are demanding she be fired.

Totally this. It's ridiculous. The only controversy is that she isn't toeing the Hollywood line of being a liberal. Trying to get someone fired because they don't think like you.....that's the sad state of affairs we are in these days.

I'm with you on the 'fired' part.  I don't have a problem with people being "outraged" - frankly, I'm pissed at any anti-masker.  I should've clarified that I'm annoyed with both - cancel culture from Social Justice Warriors strikes again!  Hopefully it simmers down before Disney feels they need to take action.

Totally. I don't agree with what she's saying.....it's the idea that she can now lose her job and it's being begged of her to lose it.....just because she's using her freedom of speech.
I dunno, I mean freedom of speech means she can't be arrested and obviously she isn't, but it doesn't mean individual companies wouldn't consider it breaks their code of ethics/values/whatever. I don't see that as "cancel culture". I'm not saying that's the case here for Disney, but it wouldn't be unreasonable for them to do so. She's saying some pretty damn irresponsible stuff.

This could lead to a P/R topic pretty quickly.....I get what you're saying but it's no different than the hub bub that get's stirred up when a Catholic School fires a teacher for living with someone out of wedlock or something like that. Losing your job over exercising your right(s) is BS no matter when/how it happens.

Unless Disney has some specific code of conduct that she's broken.....I don't see how they can fire her. If they do it's simply giving in yet again to the cancel culture that has ravaged our society.
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« Reply #2480 on: November 17, 2020, 09:03:14 AM »
Wouldn't surprise me at ALL if Disney's employment agreements / COC has a very broad definition of conduct unbecoming of a Disney employee.  The restrictions they put on Park cast members is pretty fuckin tight.
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« Reply #2481 on: November 17, 2020, 09:08:40 AM »
Wouldn't surprise me at ALL if Disney's employment agreements / COC has a very broad definition of conduct unbecoming of a Disney employee.  The restrictions they put on Park cast members is pretty fuckin tight.

True. Again, I think her comments are ridiculous....for me this 'issue' is the fact that 'we' seemingly now have the power to rid people of their livelihoods just because we don't like what they say or do? It's insane.

If she's violated a contract then sure....but that begs the question.....would Disney have even cared if not for the whining?
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« Reply #2482 on: November 17, 2020, 09:11:45 AM »
Wouldn't surprise me at ALL if Disney's employment agreements / COC has a very broad definition of conduct unbecoming of a Disney employee.  The restrictions they put on Park cast members is pretty fuckin tight.

True. Again, I think her comments are ridiculous....for me this 'issue' is the fact that 'we' seemingly now have the power to rid people of their livelihoods just because we don't like what they say or do? It's insane.

If she's violated a contract then sure....but that begs the question.....would Disney have even cared if not for the whining?

I obviously think there are lines that shouldn't be crossed. If she tweeted "LOL the holocaust was so cool, why can't more Jews die?" I wouldn't be upset with Disney firing her for exercising her 1st amendment rights.

But this? It's dumb, for sure, but it's very much on the safe side of the line.

I doubt Disney will fire her to be honest. It's just sad, to me, that so many people want to live in a world where people who disagree with you need to be silenced. Again, not an absolute, see my above example. And this is a left and right issue, just as Kaepernick will tell ya. We all need to be more open to view points we don't agree with, though I'm fine with being less tolerant to people openly spreading hatred.
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Re: Star Wars Discussion Thread v. Rise of Skywalker / Mandalorian (merged)
« Reply #2483 on: November 17, 2020, 09:15:53 AM »
Wouldn't surprise me at ALL if Disney's employment agreements / COC has a very broad definition of conduct unbecoming of a Disney employee.  The restrictions they put on Park cast members is pretty fuckin tight.
But those are restrictions put on people as they're working. If she were spouting off about political stuff while doing interviews to support The Mandalorian when she's officially "on the clock" as a Disney employee, that's completely different than posting stuff on her personal social media accounts.

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Re: Star Wars Discussion Thread v. Rise of Skywalker / Mandalorian (merged)
« Reply #2484 on: November 17, 2020, 09:18:39 AM »
Wouldn't surprise me at ALL if Disney's employment agreements / COC has a very broad definition of conduct unbecoming of a Disney employee.  The restrictions they put on Park cast members is pretty fuckin tight.
But those are restrictions put on people as they're working. If she were spouting off about political stuff while doing interviews to support The Mandalorian when she's officially "on the clock" as a Disney employee, that's completely different than posting stuff on her personal social media accounts.

Not necessarily. Plenty of public figures have clauses about what they can/cannot do in public. I dunno exactly what that looks like today, but I know it used to be a huge thing (specifically for females). I wouldn't be surprised if a family friendly company like Disney had some clauses that prevented their people from tarnishing the Disney image.
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