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I would love to see a Vadar-centric series that pics up immediately after Order 66 that spans the years in between ROTS and ANH when Vadar 'earns' and creates his reputation as the Powerful and sinister Sith he is........done in the animation style of S7 of The Clone Wars.

I'd love to see that, if it was done right.  But honestly, Clone Wars should have done a better job of setting all that up, and didn't.  I mean, it nailed the "powerful" side.  But the seeds of "sinister" weren't really all that present, other than him getting angry at times.

Yeah.....There were a few moments when Anakin murdered in cold blood outside of the 'Jedi Way' when he would lose it a bit.....but, I think Filoni and Co. wanted to respect what Lucas did with the prequels in the aspect of them not really showing too much of what we already saw in the prequels there towards the end of TCW's. Like with Order 66.......I know my brother was expecting TCW's to show more of it and not really just leave it focused on Ahsoka and Rex......he thought they'd give us more of the other Jedi that survived and more of Anakin as Vadar. I just don't think it'd have worked.

Now in Rebels they do show more of the initial years of Vadar and show us that aura and power that was always implied in the OT. It's cool to see

I liked that focus on Ahsoka and Rex.  It felt intimate and personal.  And where Ahsoka and Rex were internally at that point was set up nicely.  Overall, I thought that final arc was set up pretty nicely.  In a way, it was a bit odd to have Anakin completely absent.  But it also made sense, and I respect the artistic vision there.  I'm just saying that, with him, I wish they would have done more throughout the entire arc of the show to set up his vulnerability to Palpatine and his fall to the dark side.  It was there.  They didn't completely abandon it.  But for as much time as they had over 7 seasons, I expected more.  That's my minor beef with the series as a whole.  But it's fine.  Unfortunately, Lucas left that underbaked in the live action prequels.  So it just is what it is.  Hard to go back and fix that after the fact. 

As far as the tiny print, that's good to know.  Looking forward to it.
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One thing I hope is explained in the next season of The Mandelorian is why Din can't remove his helmet, but virtually every Mandelorian we meet in the Clone Wars or Rebels series take of their helmets all the time. Is it just his particular sect that doesn't remove their helmets?

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Just finished watching through the Rebels series. I loved the ending. Clearly set up to pick up again at some point, maybe a live action Disney+ series? Overall I though the quality of Rebels averaged higher than The Clone Wars. The lows weren't as low and the highs about the same. On to Resistance now!

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Just finished watching through the Rebels series. I loved the ending. Clearly set up to pick up again at some point, maybe a live action Disney+ series? Overall I though the quality of Rebels averaged higher than The Clone Wars. The lows weren't as low and the highs about the same. On to Resistance now!

Yeah....I agree about the lows weren’t as low with the Rebels. Really fun series and the ending was clearly intended to lead to future opportunity’s.


Which makes sense as I’ve read that:

There has been casting calls for actors who fit the description(s) of Ezra, Thrawn and Sabine. Seems to indicate they’re probably going to be cast for the Ahsoka stand alone series. Which would fall in line with the last few scenes of Rebels.


Haven’t watched Resistance and probably won’t. I can’t get past the animation style. It’s too childish and ‘simple’ for me to really engage.
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To your small font stuff, that's pretty much exactly what I was thinking.

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I finally watched all the bonus material on The Rise of Skywalker. I have to say the amount of work at every level in these massive budget movies continues to astound me. The set construction, the technology, the infrastructure, the amount of planning, and on and on.... Each frame of the movie ends up costing millions of dollars to create and there is tremendous passion, hard work and love that goes into making them. I imagine it's a miracle anytime a movie is able to come together at all. I know these are professionals

That said the main 2 hour documentary "Skywalker Legacy" is a fantastic feature and has some old school behind the scenes from the OT that I don't believe I've seen before.
There is another short feature with Warwick Davis and his son which is a gem to see. They again show archive footage from ROTJ with him as Wicket the Ewok and it comes full when Wicket is there with his son both real and character. It was heartwarming to see that part.

Flaws, warts, issues and all I still enjoyed this new trilogy and while it didn't stick the landing as I would have hoped for, I'm still very content with it and a fun rewatch from time to time.
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Flaws, warts, issues and all I still enjoyed this new trilogy and while it didn't stick the landing as I would have hoped for, I'm still very content with it and a fun rewatch from time to time.

Totally agree.
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I finally watched all the bonus material on The Rise of Skywalker. I have to say the amount of work at every level in these massive budget movies continues to astound me. The set construction, the technology, the infrastructure, the amount of planning, and on and on....

There is a doc on the RotS DVD that shows everything that went in to making a scene, even covering a bunch of back office stuff like accounting, and things you'd never think of like catering. Forget about actually filming a movie of this size and scope, just making sure the cast and crew gets paid and fed sounds like a daunting task.
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There is a doc on the RotS DVD that shows everything that went in to making a scene, even covering a bunch of back office stuff like accounting, and things you'd never think of like catering. Forget about actually filming a movie of this size and scope, just making sure the cast and crew gets paid and fed sounds like a daunting task.

So true, and that's what made me run screaming away from Film school. The mental amount of preparation, logistics and headaches that went into making just a simple 5 minute film was enough to blow my mind. So props to anyone that has to deal with making a feature film.

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I finally watched all the bonus material on The Rise of Skywalker. I have to say the amount of work at every level in these massive budget movies continues to astound me. The set construction, the technology, the infrastructure, the amount of planning, and on and on....

There is a doc on the RotS DVD that shows everything that went in to making a scene, even covering a bunch of back office stuff like accounting, and things you'd never think of like catering. Forget about actually filming a movie of this size and scope, just making sure the cast and crew gets paid and fed sounds like a daunting task.


That sounds very interesting. Going to have to see if it's on the bluray set that came out a while back. With every new disc release they seem to remove/add features so if it's on DVD it might not be on Blu-ray and vice versa. I hate it when they do that. The first OT DVD set that came out had that amazing documentary "Empire of Dreams" and the bluray set didn't include that. So I held on to my DVDs for that purpose.


And checked that several of the DVD extras didn't port over to the bluray boxset.


Looks like I'm upgrading to the Skywalker Saga 4k Box set lol.
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That sounds very interesting. Going to have to see if it's on the bluray set that came out a while back. With every new disc release they seem to remove/add features so if it's on DVD it might not be on Blu-ray and vice versa. I hate it when they do that.

Good lord. I grew up with a couple copies of Eps 4-6 on VHS, then got the Special Eds on VHS, skipped Ep 1 but got 2 and 3 on DVD. At that point I gave up trying to keep track of all subsequent home video versions and releases, and never cared to procure any of them*. I thought the extra material on the 2 and 3 DVD releases were quite enjoyable and well-presented. And if Empire of Dreams is the documentary I am thinking of, that one was a treat as well.

*Except for Rogue One, which I received as a gift.
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I have to say the amount of work at every level in these massive budget movies continues to astound me. T

Totally.  Mad respect to all the effort that goes into movies.

It's just too bad all of that passion and commitment can get wasted with a lousy story or poor acting or whatever.  What *should* be the simplest part can totally derail an entire movie/franchise.

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Absolutely, it really needs highly visionary filmmakers to make it work out in the end and not let the scale of the project overwhelm them. Take Peter Jackson for example, truly ground breaking stuff with LOTR and made it work very well. That didn't fully pan out for the Hobbit for several reasons..

That said, I'm now watching the making of The Mandalorian and that is another fascinating series. Why aren't Dave Filoni and Jon Favreau overlooking the movies or everything Star Wars related?!

Such amazing creative forces who are walking encyclopedias of SW lore. I can't wait to see what they have in store for Season 2 and now I immediately want to go and watch Clone Wars and Rebels.

The technology room they called the "Volume" is a fantastic amalgamation of available technology esp video game engines.
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