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Re: The Sea Within (feat. Stolt, Gildenlöw, Reingold, Brislin, Minnemann)
« Reply #245 on: June 26, 2018, 05:33:12 PM »
Despite my prior concerns about this album, I took the plunge and bought it.  If Roine's sound and presence is that strong, it has to be good, right?  And if it's not, it only cost me $9.99.

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« Reply #246 on: June 26, 2018, 08:18:47 PM »
Why should it be the determining factor when it's a Roine Stolt project after all?
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« Reply #247 on: June 26, 2018, 08:22:17 PM »
His style is  domineering factor.  When you hear a band he's in, you know he's in the band. 
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« Reply #248 on: June 26, 2018, 08:25:32 PM »
Well, that's expected isn't it.

I love the Marco and Tom influences on these jams.
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« Reply #249 on: June 26, 2018, 08:27:31 PM »
I think people wish with 5 stars there's a bigger mix of their styles of writing.
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« Reply #250 on: June 26, 2018, 08:30:49 PM »
I think people wish with 5 stars there's a bigger mix of their styles of writing.

Thats their fault then. "Wishing" it was their perception of what "they" thought the band would be. And it is revealed then "they" be disappointed. Which is why whomever is in that band doesn't mean squat to What the final outcome will be.
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« Reply #251 on: June 26, 2018, 08:38:06 PM »
I guess his musical DNA is stronger than the other 4. Lol
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« Reply #252 on: June 26, 2018, 08:42:47 PM »
Not to mention that Jonas was TFK's bass player for the majority of their years, and Gildenlow sang some lead vocals on two TFK records, so of course it is going to sound like the Flower Kings at times.

However, after one listen, I didn't come away thinking, "That sounds like the Flower Kings," generally speaking.

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« Reply #253 on: June 27, 2018, 07:04:41 AM »
This band gave me the impression that it has a similar structure/style of Transatlantic, but with Ronie being the musical leader and, like in Transatlantic, having the other parts influencing the final result in a lesser degree. Again, I don't think this is a bad thing (like in Transatlantic), this album is really excellent!
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Re: The Sea Within (feat. Stolt, Gildenlöw, Reingold, Brislin, Minnemann)
« Reply #254 on: June 27, 2018, 07:46:42 AM »
Wasnt this advertised, like most supergroups, as a bunch of songwriting influences coming together?  Is it our fault for expecting more than another TFK sounding project when the band themselves set that expectation?  He might has well have saved the money and recruited a bunch of talented no names, unless the goal was to trick more people into being interested.

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« Reply #255 on: June 27, 2018, 05:33:11 PM »
Wasnt this advertised, like most supergroups, as a bunch of songwriting influences coming together?  Is it our fault for expecting more than another TFK sounding project when the band themselves set that expectation?  He might has well have saved the money and recruited a bunch of talented no names, unless the goal was to trick more people into being interested.

I'm not sure what this post even means.

I listened to it again today and this is not a "TFK sounding project." 

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« Reply #256 on: June 27, 2018, 07:04:42 PM »
Wasnt this advertised, like most supergroups, as a bunch of songwriting influences coming together?  Is it our fault for expecting more than another TFK sounding project when the band themselves set that expectation?  He might has well have saved the money and recruited a bunch of talented no names, unless the goal was to trick more people into being interested.

I'm not sure what this post even means.

I listened to it again today and this is not a "TFK sounding project."


THIS!

You can definitely hear Roine’s influence but in that same way I Marco’s and Daniel’s and the rest of the guys’ influence in the album.

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« Reply #257 on: June 27, 2018, 07:17:03 PM »


You can definitely hear Roine’s influence but in that same way I Marco’s and Daniel’s and the rest of the guys’ influence in the album.

Agreed.  And Tomas Bodin was such a big part of the TFK sound that it is hard for any Roine non-TFK album to sound too much like the Flower Kings.  It's why, when people try to say The Flower King was really TFK's first album, I strongly disagree.  It sounds like a Roine solo album, which is was it is. 

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Re: The Sea Within (feat. Stolt, Gildenlöw, Reingold, Brislin, Minnemann)
« Reply #258 on: June 28, 2018, 08:22:09 AM »
Agree to disagree but this basically still sounds like TFK to me.

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« Reply #259 on: June 28, 2018, 10:04:28 AM »
Agree to disagree but this basically still sounds like TFK to me.

I kind of have the same sentiment. Marco's drumming sounds like Zoltan's from the last two FK albums. The most original sounding songs are the ones that feature Casey in my opinion and those are the ones I have been enjoying the most. Haven't received my copy yet so I can't comment on the writing credits. Some of the songs also sound like the Road Salts from PoS too...
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« Reply #260 on: June 28, 2018, 10:29:03 AM »
Agree to disagree but this basically still sounds like TFK to me.

I kind of have the same sentiment. Marco's drumming sounds like Zoltan's from the last two FK albums. The most original sounding songs are the ones that feature Casey in my opinion and those are the ones I have been enjoying the most. Haven't received my copy yet so I can't comment on the writing credits. Some of the songs also sound like the Road Salts from PoS too...

So what we're all saying is... this album DEFINITELY sounds Swedish...

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« Reply #261 on: June 28, 2018, 11:03:23 AM »
Can definitely only concur, this is clearly a Stolt album from beginning to end.
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« Reply #262 on: June 29, 2018, 07:28:46 PM »
Bumping this thread, I am really surprised how this album is slowly growing on me. There are some really good songs on there that have nothing to do with the regular cookie cutter prog. For example, They Know My Name is brilliant.
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« Reply #263 on: June 29, 2018, 07:34:42 PM »
It's the growers that stand the test of time. 
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« Reply #264 on: June 30, 2018, 12:52:40 PM »
Haven't broken this one open yet (I will likely tonight), but I'm a bit disappointed it's not a digipak.

Did you order from a US distributor, like Amazon? If so, I'm pretty certain all US releases were jewel cases, but the EU version is a 3-panel digipak as seen in many promo pics on the official Facebook page, also shared by Stolt himself.

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I've listened a few times already now and while I'm not blown away by it, I do like it. I can tell it's going to be a grower.

Unfortunately it doesn't look like there are going to be any live shows around here that would help me bring these songs to life.

I like the art and the lyrics.  I really like Casey's contribution on this too.  I've only ever really cared about his work in Flying Colors but this album makes me think I should check out his other projects.

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« Reply #265 on: June 30, 2018, 01:01:52 PM »
His style is  domineering factor.  When you hear a band he's in, you know he's in the band.

He's probably the guy I was least interested in out of everyone.

Other than Transatlantic, I think the last album I might have gotten with him on it that I still have is Wall Street Voodoo.

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« Reply #266 on: July 04, 2018, 02:06:29 AM »
I was kind of under-whelmed by this. I didn't go in with any expectations of what the music was going to sound like, but I had read a few reviews. There doesn't seem to be much of a cohesive band feel to this album, it's a mish-mash of different styles and it doesn't always work. The keyboard sounds are dated and in places horrible. Casey McPherson's vocals sound like he recorded in one take without hearing the song or knowing the melody. There's some really talented people on this album, but it ends up somehow being less than the sum of its parts.
Perhaps it's a grower, but I doubt I'll be listening to it enough for it to grow. Ho hum.
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« Reply #267 on: July 04, 2018, 07:24:40 AM »
I think "underwhelming" is a good word for it.  I like the record, but overall it just strikes me as, well, underwhelming. :lol :lol

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« Reply #268 on: July 06, 2018, 11:01:37 AM »
I was kind of under-whelmed by this. I didn't go in with any expectations of what the music was going to sound like, but I had read a few reviews. There doesn't seem to be much of a cohesive band feel to this album, it's a mish-mash of different styles and it doesn't always work. The keyboard sounds are dated and in places horrible. Casey McPherson's vocals sound like he recorded in one take without hearing the song or knowing the melody. There's some really talented people on this album, but it ends up somehow being less than the sum of its parts.
Perhaps it's a grower, but I doubt I'll be listening to it enough for it to grow. Ho hum.

That's why I'm enjoying it  -- the fusion of different styles.  I'm a Daniel fan, but I really like what Casey brings to this.

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« Reply #269 on: July 11, 2018, 09:14:28 AM »
It's the growers that stand the test of time.


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An Eye for an Eye for an Eye, like it, like it

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« Reply #270 on: July 17, 2018, 04:42:00 PM »
Getting better with each listen. Settled in as a once a week listen.  I love Marco.

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« Reply #271 on: July 17, 2018, 05:30:31 PM »
there's some liveclips on youtube now. Looking/sounding pretty good. Also a very cool drumsolo by MM.

Looking forward to seeing them when they come here!

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« Reply #272 on: August 22, 2018, 08:29:24 AM »
I see no thread for this amazing band! Loaded with talent, and they deliver! Unlike a very cookie cutter album in SOA, this one delivers in epic fashion. From start to finish a great listen.
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« Reply #273 on: August 22, 2018, 08:31:47 AM »
No, no one here has heard of that band, let alone had a long thread about them.
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« Reply #274 on: August 22, 2018, 08:33:13 AM »
Guys, I'm turning this thread public now, our secrets are no longer safe, but I have to let Tick in.
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« Reply #275 on: August 22, 2018, 08:48:39 AM »
No, no one here has heard of that band, let alone had a long thread about them.
Ok wise guy, I did not "sea" a thread on them.
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« Reply #276 on: August 22, 2018, 08:51:12 AM »
Guys, I'm turning this thread public now, our secrets are no longer safe, but I have to let Tick in.
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« Reply #277 on: August 22, 2018, 08:52:26 AM »
Guys, I'm turning this thread public now, our secrets are no longer safe, but I have to let Tick in.
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Re: The Sea Within (feat. Stolt, Gildenlöw, Reingold, Brislin, Minnemann)
« Reply #278 on: August 22, 2018, 08:54:32 AM »
Seeing this thread reminds me of that band. I've listened to it twice and forgot about it. Seems like this isn't my cup of tea, sadly.

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« Reply #279 on: August 22, 2018, 09:04:23 AM »
 :lol
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