Richard Chycki says he's currently mixing a DT live album **DO NOT POST LINKS**

[Indiscipline]

I get the analogy, but I always watch porn with the sound muted anyway.  I have no interest in fake moaning and bad music.

You're missing out on some killer wah and flute *smile*

I agree, music comes first in live albums (who comes first in porn movies is a whole different conversation)

[Orbert]

Porn used to have music so bad and cliched that it was practically its own genre.  If porn doesn't have music anymore, that can only be a plus.  But truly, I have no idea.

[Indiscipline]

Porn used to have music so bad and cliched that it was practically its own genre.  If porn doesn't have music anymore, that can only be a plus.  But truly, I have no idea.

Well, in the name of honest scrupulous musical analysis, you leave me no choice but going back to examine the material ... *wink*

[ToT-147]

   Yeah, like only 10% of today's porn would play music as background.. The rest is just moaning and silence..

Okay, back on topic now... we were talking about... Richard Chycki?, apparently..

[Orbert]

Richard Chycki says he's currently mixing a DT live album **DO NOT POST LINKS**

[Zook]

I get chills from hearing crowd participation. Check out Iron Maiden's Rock in Rio. Incredible. I agree someone trying to sing along to a drum fill is a bit much though.

Exactly.. But that kind of things are only audible when you are actually IN the show, not in the crowd mix of a live release.. At least *I* have never heard someone singing along fast sections in any band's CD/DVD at all..

I think you guys are talking about two very different things as if they were the same..

I was just addressing something I read above. I agree though, two different things, the latter being something that never occurs on a live release.

[Architeuthis]

 Just saw on social media yesterday someone posted the whole Budokon 2017 show. I only watched two songs because of limited data on my mobile phone, but it looked and sounded awesome from what I could tell.  Hope this sees the light of day sometime soon. 

[theanalogkid7]

Any updates from those in the know about this possible release?  I keep seeing copies pop up in different areas and have intentionally avoided them.

[ToT-147]

Official updates, no.. But I've heard from certain sources that they will not release this officially... So I'd watch it if I were you, but to each their own..

[noxon]

Funny, my sources say the opposite.

[The Curious Orange]

C'mon DT, give the fans what they want - release it already!

[Setlist Scotty]

Funny, my sources say the opposite.

LOL! methinks noxon might be better connected than you ToT-147! 

If they are planning to release it, I wonder if they're taking advantage of their time in the studio to fix mistakes in the original performance. With that tour being particularly challenging for JL, I wouldn't be surprised if some of the time he spends on recording vocals might be used to re-record some of his vocals for the live release.

[cramx3]

That's an interesting idea and would be a good reason for the delay on releasing it because IMO the more they wait, the less the interest will be in it.  Especially with the never ending battle with the youtube uploads of it.

[bosk1]

Funny, my sources say the opposite.

LOL! methinks noxon might be better connected than you ToT-147! 

If they are planning to release it, I wonder if they're taking advantage of their time in the studio to fix mistakes in the original performance. With that tour being particularly challenging for JL, I wouldn't be surprised if some of the time he spends on recording vocals might be used to re-record some of his vocals for the live release.

Interesting thought.  They haven't really done much vocal touching up on most of their live releases.  But I think they should if it ultimately improves the quality.  Yeah, I know that touching up something as obvious as the lead vocals can make it feel like less of an "authentic" experience for many.  But ultimately, I care much less about that than having a recording that has re-listenability and staying power in my play list.

[cramx3]

It's tough for the band, either they release it as is with people complaining about the vocals, or they touch it up and people complain about the touching up, or they dont release it at all and people complain about not releasing it. 

[Samsara]

If they are planning to release it, I wonder if they're taking advantage of their time in the studio to fix mistakes in the original performance. With that tour being particularly challenging for JL, I wouldn't be surprised if some of the time he spends on recording vocals might be used to re-record some of his vocals for the live release.

That was my thought as well. That record was incredible difficult for James to do, and he while I think the majority of fans give him credit for doing his best, he's not going to want an official live release out there with the vocal quality that was shown on tour. It's not his fault, replicating the vocals on that material live on the road was a bitch in 1992, not to mention 2017. So, I hope that if JLB is doing some re-recording, it will only make things better. My gut feeling is, JLB will knock each of the tunes out of the park in the studio in a few takes. They may not have the stratospheric notes of back then, but a nice comp of live takes in the studio makes sense.

[Architeuthis]

I can allready see it. If the vocals are polished for a official release, the You-Tubers will be calling it out comparing it with the un-official leaks from the raw version. For me personally, I don't care. I agree with Bosk, I would rather it sound better with a good replay value and share-ability with friends that come over and watch it with me.
It wouldn't be fair to JLB if he had to be embarrassed about any cringeworthy moments. It needs his stamp of approval.

[Plasmastrike]

It's such a shame the vocals are weak on this album, especially because it's visually beautiful and the band is on fire

[ToT-147]

Funny, my sources say the opposite.

LOL! methinks noxon might be better connected than you ToT-147! 

I'm definitely not better connected than him, but it seems that I might have some skills to make you guys tell us what you do know about this dvd..

[gzarruk]

Funny, my sources say the opposite.

LOL! methinks noxon might be better connected than you ToT-147! 

I'm definitely not better connected than him, but it seems that I might have some skills to make you guys tell us what you do know about this dvd..

You, sir, just won the Internet for today

[Orbert]

That reminds me of a joke I saw recently.  The way to find correct information on the Internet is not to ask, but to post incorrect information.

[cramx3]

 

[smegolas]

If they are planning to release it, I wonder if they're taking advantage of their time in the studio to fix mistakes in the original performance. With that tour being particularly challenging for JL, I wouldn't be surprised if some of the time he spends on recording vocals might be used to re-record some of his vocals for the live release.

That was my thought as well. That record was incredible difficult for James to do, and he while I think the majority of fans give him credit for doing his best, he's not going to want an official live release out there with the vocal quality that was shown on tour. It's not his fault, replicating the vocals on that material live on the road was a bitch in 1992, not to mention 2017. So, I hope that if JLB is doing some re-recording, it will only make things better. My gut feeling is, JLB will knock each of the tunes out of the park in the studio in a few takes. They may not have the stratospheric notes of back then, but a nice comp of live takes in the studio makes sense.

I have never understood this.  People want it to be authentic and untouched so what - they can claim its legit then never listen to it again?  I hate that they did not redo some of the worst vocals going back to Scenes from NY.  Please James - redo everything if you have to!!!!

[The Walrus]

The only 'win win' scenario is to have a new singer who CAN do it live. And hell, even that isn't a win win, really, because lots of people like James because he is, well... James. But nowadays it's either get a live release with terrible vocals (Chaos In Motion) or overdub the crap out of them so it's hardly live anyway (Marquee, potentially this one).

Can't win. Can't please everyone. Just hope they release a solid sounding product, that's what I'm hoping for.

[Architeuthis]

I just watched CIM and have a new appreciation for it. The vocals only sound bad on a small handful of songs, especially in parts of Surrounded. That's only because of the recording, not James' fault. Alot of the songs sound pretty good, epecially the ones in Vancouver (Ministry of Lost Souls comes to mind).  ITPOE sounds pretty good throughout too.
It's too bad the vox don't sound good in Surrounded because that is such an awesome version of that song!

[Adami]

Personally, I think it'd be really funny if they just troll the fans since it's a no win anyway.

Half (not really) the fans want an authentic live release with bad vocals.

Half (not really) the fans want a live release that is so perfect and pristine that it's not terribly different from the studio releases.

So why not just ditch all the live audio and sync up the original studio audio with live audience sounds mixed in. That'd be amazing.

[cramx3]

Or maybe just give us two releases, one original and one with some work added.  Shit, anyone who wanted to see the original probably already has at this point so why not since like someone else said, the comparisons will be there if they release a fixed version.  Maybe just embrace it.

[Orbert]

Don't DVDs have multiple audio tracks?  I know Blu-rays do, for like Spanish or other languages.  They could release the video with both original audio and "adjusted" audio, and people can listen to whichever they want.

[Madman Shepherd]

Don't DVDs have multiple audio tracks?  I know Blu-rays do, for like Spanish or other languages.  They could release the video with both original audio and "adjusted" audio, and people can listen to whichever they want.

...and a Spanish version with Jeff Scott Soto!

[TH1RT3EN]

Don't DVDs have multiple audio tracks?  I know Blu-rays do, for like Spanish or other languages.  They could release the video with both original audio and "adjusted" audio, and people can listen to whichever they want.

...and a Spanish version with Jeff Scott Soto!

Oh God, please don't bring that up again

[The Walrus]

Don't DVDs have multiple audio tracks?  I know Blu-rays do, for like Spanish or other languages.  They could release the video with both original audio and "adjusted" audio, and people can listen to whichever they want.

Hey now... that's actually a fantastic idea, win-win!

[devieira73]

Don't DVDs have multiple audio tracks?  I know Blu-rays do, for like Spanish or other languages.  They could release the video with both original audio and "adjusted" audio, and people can listen to whichever they want.

I do think it's a great and innovative idea. Unfortunately, although everybody knows that the audio on almost every single live album/DVD is corrected at some level, it seems an unwritten rule that a band never can admit it officially. And by officially I mean in the booklet of the release or in the DVD's audio options. I'm not talking about admit it in interviews, which occurs a lot, by the way.

[cramx3]

It is a great idea really.  And it would be nice for a band to embrace what happens on live recordings.  Honestly it would be really refreshing and cool idea to make two tracks.  We all have seen the band either live or on youtube, the raw footage.  We are still here so it's not really fooling anyone.  You could start a new trend for concerts dvd.

[?]

Funny, my sources say the opposite.

LOL! methinks noxon might be better connected than you ToT-147! 

If they are planning to release it, I wonder if they're taking advantage of their time in the studio to fix mistakes in the original performance. With that tour being particularly challenging for JL, I wouldn't be surprised if some of the time he spends on recording vocals might be used to re-record some of his vocals for the live release.

When ACOS appeared on YT, I compared it to an audience recording and noticed overdubs in some sections, so they must've done the fixing already (unless they're going to do more of it before the official release).

[Architeuthis]

Funny, my sources say the opposite.

LOL! methinks noxon might be better connected than you ToT-147! 

If they are planning to release it, I wonder if they're taking advantage of their time in the studio to fix mistakes in the original performance. With that tour being particularly challenging for JL, I wouldn't be surprised if some of the time he spends on recording vocals might be used to re-record some of his vocals for the live release.

When ACOS appeared on YT, I compared it to an audience recording and noticed overdubs in some sections, so they must've done the fixing already (unless they're going to do more of it before the official release).

If there is an official release, and that's a big "IF".  It would be nice though to hold us fans over until the new DT album comes out.
I wouldn't be surprised if DT is planning to film a show from their next tour so they can have some material from their new album on it.  They probably will not release ( I hope I'm wrong) the Budokon 2017, but will save their energy and resources to make a live release from DT 14 tour.