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« Reply #1015 on: July 12, 2019, 01:50:22 PM »
On the night of my 18th birthday I committed numerous acts that the state of Texas considered "aggravated sexual assault of a child." Think about that.

Well, unless the girl you banged numerous times was 14-years-old or younger, then no you did not. Three year age gap is allowed from what I was able to read in Texas.

Assuming I'm reading it right.
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« Reply #1016 on: July 12, 2019, 01:56:35 PM »
On the night of my 18th birthday I committed numerous acts that the state of Texas considered "aggravated sexual assault of a child." Think about that.

Well, unless the girl you banged numerous times was 14-years-old or younger, then no you did not. Three year age gap is allowed from what I was able to read in Texas.

Assuming I'm reading it right.

Correct.  It does make it difficult to discuss as states do have differing legal definitions.  EB I sure hope you weren't banging 13 year olds when you were 18.  That's gross, dude.

There are also wide variabilities on how the charges get classified.  If we are talking a 22 year old and a 17 year old who admits she was willingly banging her boyfriend, the prosecutor will likely charge him with a misdemeanor statutory rape vs a felony.

And of course back to Epstein, the issue may on the surface seem like statutory rape, but taken on the whole the lines are going to be drawn for sex trafficking.  I'm not up on the laws in New York, but I have a feeling those are felony territory. 

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Re: Harvey Weinstein
« Reply #1017 on: July 12, 2019, 02:04:22 PM »
Not too related, but (dependent on state) I'm pretty sure a 19-year-old banging a 17-year-old is not considered statutory rape.

Usually once you get past the 18 (or whatever) mark, there's also laws about the age gap between the people. Again, depends on the state.
About half the states have close in age exceptions. Texas actually did in '88, but that didn't include sodomy (and in pre-Lawrence Texas just leaving the lights on pretty much qualified as sodomy).


edit: since it's come up several times now, my GF at the time was 1 year and 8 days younger than me. She was a 8 days shy of magically becoming and adult, and insofar as Texas goes qualified as a child.
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Re: Harvey Weinstein
« Reply #1018 on: July 12, 2019, 02:12:12 PM »
On the night of my 18th birthday I committed numerous acts that the state of Texas considered "aggravated sexual assault of a child." Think about that.

Well, unless the girl you banged numerous times was 14-years-old or younger, then no you did not. Three year age gap is allowed from what I was able to read in Texas.

Assuming I'm reading it right.

Correct.  It does make it difficult to discuss as states do have differing legal definitions.  EB I sure hope you weren't banging 13 year olds when you were 18.  That's gross, dude.

There are also wide variabilities on how the charges get classified.  If we are talking a 22 year old and a 17 year old who admits she was willingly banging her boyfriend, the prosecutor will likely charge him with a misdemeanor statutory rape vs a felony.

And of course back to Epstein, the issue may on the surface seem like statutory rape, but taken on the whole the lines are going to be drawn for sex trafficking.  I'm not up on the laws in New York, but I have a feeling those are felony territory.
Which is another blurred line. Not all prostitution is sex trafficking. Another of the things we're doing to misrepresent this whole thing by automatically using the harshest label we can apply. 

Also, I believe these are federal charges filed in NY, so those are the rules they're playing within.
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Re: Harvey Weinstein
« Reply #1019 on: July 13, 2019, 08:20:21 AM »
Jeffrey Epstein: how US media with one star exception whitewashed the story

The Miami Herald exposed a vast criminal network and a government cover-up but why the silence elsewhere?


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jul/13/jeffrey-epstein-alex-acosta-miami-herald-media


This Epstein thing looks like it might actually be pretty massive. His behaviour is only one aspect of it. More intriguing to me is what looks to have been a concerted attempt to cover it up. I still think this story will be buried again in a month or two but hopefully some proper investigative journalists like this Miami Herald reporter manage to expose a few facts before that happens.
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Re: Harvey Weinstein
« Reply #1020 on: July 13, 2019, 08:49:17 AM »
What's really sad is that you just know that many Americans are hoping beyond hope that Donald Trump ends up being a part of this cover-up, and the same applies to many also hoping the same about Bill Clinton.

Why an American would want the stain of a current or former president being ousted as a pedophile is beyond me.  I get those from other countries wanting it, so they can point at us and laugh, but if you have any pride in the US at all, I feel you should not be rooting for this.  That is my two cents.

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« Reply #1021 on: July 13, 2019, 08:58:48 AM »
What's really sad is that you just know that many Americans are hoping beyond hope that Donald Trump ends up being a part of this cover-up, and the same applies to many also hoping the same about Bill Clinton.

Why an American would want the stain of a current or former president being ousted as a pedophile is beyond me.  I get those from other countries wanting it, so they can point at us and laugh, but if you have any pride in the US at all, I feel you should not be rooting for this.  That is my two cents.

Because the dynamic you express (being a hater from a different country) is now what we have between political parties.  Its like the hater civil war.  Its like the schadenfreude you feel for opposing sports teams or players, is now the same for political parties and politicians.
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Re: Harvey Weinstein
« Reply #1022 on: July 13, 2019, 09:28:42 AM »
On the night of my 18th birthday I committed numerous acts that the state of Texas considered "aggravated sexual assault of a child." Think about that.

Well, unless the girl you banged numerous times was 14-years-old or younger, then no you did not. Three year age gap is allowed from what I was able to read in Texas.

Assuming I'm reading it right.

Correct.  It does make it difficult to discuss as states do have differing legal definitions.  EB I sure hope you weren't banging 13 year olds when you were 18.  That's gross, dude.

There are also wide variabilities on how the charges get classified.  If we are talking a 22 year old and a 17 year old who admits she was willingly banging her boyfriend, the prosecutor will likely charge him with a misdemeanor statutory rape vs a felony.

And of course back to Epstein, the issue may on the surface seem like statutory rape, but taken on the whole the lines are going to be drawn for sex trafficking.  I'm not up on the laws in New York, but I have a feeling those are felony territory.

Even these laws (IMO) should make room for exceptions.   

A personal experience of mine from the late 80s...I personally witnessed this. 

I had a buddy named L (I've decided not to give his full name) who was barely 21 years old and had some rather striking features and a motorcycle.  (Dude was hot and had a cool bike)   Everyone always wanted a ride on L's bike and L really liked everyone and so he was always giving people rides.    One day, we were out with several families, and a 14 yr old girl begged for a ride, so the parents said sure.   L and the girl on the bike said they would meet me at Denny's which was about 10 min away.     When we got to Denny's, this girl was ALLLL OVER HIM.   And he was telling her to knock it off.   During the time we were trying to get food, I couldn't count how many times L told this girl NO, but she was extremely aggressive, and at one point she even tried to go "under the table" on him right in the middle of Denny's.       He got up to get away at that point.    But I will admit, he was just barely 21, and kindof a party animal, and on some level, you could tell that the only thing holding him back was the technicalities of the law.   Even I was shocked at how aggressive she was.   I mean, she literally put her hands on him and tried to pull him out.     And kept trying even after she was told not to.   

Now, you may rightly say, "where did she learn that", and "why don't her parents know"...and you would be absolutely correct.   Because L and I were both completely shocked by her behavior.    But that's a different conversation.     MY point is that...IMO...If L would have caved (because you could tell he really wanted to....and for all I know, he might have later on) I would have a very difficult time with any judge deciding that he had raped her, when it was practically the opposite. 
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Re: Harvey Weinstein
« Reply #1023 on: July 13, 2019, 11:15:09 AM »
On the night of my 18th birthday I committed numerous acts that the state of Texas considered "aggravated sexual assault of a child." Think about that.

Well, unless the girl you banged numerous times was 14-years-old or younger, then no you did not. Three year age gap is allowed from what I was able to read in Texas.

Assuming I'm reading it right.

Correct.  It does make it difficult to discuss as states do have differing legal definitions.  EB I sure hope you weren't banging 13 year olds when you were 18.  That's gross, dude.

There are also wide variabilities on how the charges get classified.  If we are talking a 22 year old and a 17 year old who admits she was willingly banging her boyfriend, the prosecutor will likely charge him with a misdemeanor statutory rape vs a felony.

And of course back to Epstein, the issue may on the surface seem like statutory rape, but taken on the whole the lines are going to be drawn for sex trafficking.  I'm not up on the laws in New York, but I have a feeling those are felony territory.
Which is another blurred line. Not all prostitution is sex trafficking. Another of the things we're doing to misrepresent this whole thing by automatically using the harshest label we can apply. 

Also, I believe these are federal charges filed in NY, so those are the rules they're playing within.

Bart, I hear you loud and clear.  I'm trying to dig into this and the facts are sparse, but they are using the most egregious terms here. It's all "sex-trafficking" and "paedophelia" and yet... no ages have been given, no information on the mechanism for the trafficking, no indication how the girls got to the island (I don't mean mode of transportation, but the scheme used)... nothing.  Now, the latest angle is that he's not really a billionaire.   Not that I have a ton of sympathy for Epstein - I have precisely zero, to be honest - but next we'll be reading about how he doesn't recycle, and how he's a bad tipper at restaurants.   (Again, NOT defending Epstein, but commenting on the subjectivity and salaciousness of the coverage, and how that's indicative of the times, unfortunately). 

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Re: Harvey Weinstein
« Reply #1024 on: July 13, 2019, 11:16:42 AM »
What's really sad is that you just know that many Americans are hoping beyond hope that Donald Trump ends up being a part of this cover-up, and the same applies to many also hoping the same about Bill Clinton.

Why an American would want the stain of a current or former president being ousted as a pedophile is beyond me.  I get those from other countries wanting it, so they can point at us and laugh, but if you have any pride in the US at all, I feel you should not be rooting for this.  That is my two cents.

Because DEMOCRACY! and because it would allow a lot of shallow people who haven't done the hard work to be able to say "See! I told you!  I was RIGHT!"

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Re: Harvey Weinstein
« Reply #1025 on: July 13, 2019, 11:24:58 AM »
On the night of my 18th birthday I committed numerous acts that the state of Texas considered "aggravated sexual assault of a child." Think about that.

Well, unless the girl you banged numerous times was 14-years-old or younger, then no you did not. Three year age gap is allowed from what I was able to read in Texas.

Assuming I'm reading it right.

Correct.  It does make it difficult to discuss as states do have differing legal definitions.  EB I sure hope you weren't banging 13 year olds when you were 18.  That's gross, dude.

There are also wide variabilities on how the charges get classified.  If we are talking a 22 year old and a 17 year old who admits she was willingly banging her boyfriend, the prosecutor will likely charge him with a misdemeanor statutory rape vs a felony.

And of course back to Epstein, the issue may on the surface seem like statutory rape, but taken on the whole the lines are going to be drawn for sex trafficking.  I'm not up on the laws in New York, but I have a feeling those are felony territory.
Which is another blurred line. Not all prostitution is sex trafficking. Another of the things we're doing to misrepresent this whole thing by automatically using the harshest label we can apply. 

Also, I believe these are federal charges filed in NY, so those are the rules they're playing within.

Bart, I hear you loud and clear.  I'm trying to dig into this and the facts are sparse, but they are using the most egregious terms here. It's all "sex-trafficking" and "paedophelia" and yet... no ages have been given, no information on the mechanism for the trafficking, no indication how the girls got to the island (I don't mean mode of transportation, but the scheme used)... nothing.  Now, the latest angle is that he's not really a billionaire.   Not that I have a ton of sympathy for Epstein - I have precisely zero, to be honest - but next we'll be reading about how he doesn't recycle, and how he's a bad tipper at restaurants.   (Again, NOT defending Epstein, but commenting on the subjectivity and salaciousness of the coverage, and how that's indicative of the times, unfortunately).
I'm not so much concerned about the salaciousness of the coverage; it's the media, it's how things work here. I'm more troubled buy the peoples inability to sort this kind of thing out. At the first sign of possible child abuse everybody's indignation gets dialed up to 11, and all things are defined in the most egregious terms we have available. It's the only socially acceptable way to reply lest you be seen as sympathetic, and sympathetic equates to being pro child rape. Hell, I'm a bit gunshy about these sorts of things, myself, and I'm a pretty unfiltered guy. The Roman Polanski thing always bugged me a bit, and the Dave Holland thing genuinely pissed me off. Yet who's willing to stand up for these people?
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Re: Harvey Weinstein
« Reply #1026 on: July 13, 2019, 11:39:03 AM »
What's really sad is that you just know that many Americans are hoping beyond hope that Donald Trump ends up being a part of this cover-up, and the same applies to many also hoping the same about Bill Clinton.

Why an American would want the stain of a current or former president being ousted as a pedophile is beyond me.  I get those from other countries wanting it, so they can point at us and laugh, but if you have any pride in the US at all, I feel you should not be rooting for this.  That is my two cents.

Because DEMOCRACY! and because it would allow a lot of shallow people who haven't done the hard work to be able to say "See! I told you!  I was RIGHT!"

It's because of the extreme tribalism in modern politics, of which Trump is guilty of stoking the flames daily.

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« Reply #1027 on: July 13, 2019, 11:41:57 AM »
The two go hand-in-hand.   EVERYTHING is dialed up these days.  Trump's not just a bad President, he's THE END OF DEMOCRACY.  Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is not just an inexperienced Congresswoman, she's an "ignorant socialist".   Hillary should be in jail.   If Kavanaugh is confirmed women will die!

But like many say to me (sometimes rightly, sometimes wrongly), not everything is equal.   The press is SUPPOSED to know better.  Their very existence is predicated on objectivity and facts. 

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« Reply #1028 on: July 13, 2019, 11:44:02 AM »
What's really sad is that you just know that many Americans are hoping beyond hope that Donald Trump ends up being a part of this cover-up, and the same applies to many also hoping the same about Bill Clinton.

Why an American would want the stain of a current or former president being ousted as a pedophile is beyond me.  I get those from other countries wanting it, so they can point at us and laugh, but if you have any pride in the US at all, I feel you should not be rooting for this.  That is my two cents.

Because DEMOCRACY! and because it would allow a lot of shallow people who haven't done the hard work to be able to say "See! I told you!  I was RIGHT!"

It's because of the extreme tribalism in modern politics, of which Trump is many politicians on both sides are guilty of stoking the flames daily.

I just wrote about this. Trump is the extreme example, but not the only one, and when he's gone, then what?   You've killed one roach but there are now 1,000's in the walls. 

As Dr. Phil says, the fundamental rule is "Don't reward bad behavior".   

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« Reply #1029 on: July 13, 2019, 12:22:08 PM »
What's really sad is that you just know that many Americans are hoping beyond hope that Donald Trump ends up being a part of this cover-up, and the same applies to many also hoping the same about Bill Clinton.

Why an American would want the stain of a current or former president being ousted as a pedophile is beyond me.  I get those from other countries wanting it, so they can point at us and laugh, but if you have any pride in the US at all, I feel you should not be rooting for this.  That is my two cents.

Because DEMOCRACY! and because it would allow a lot of shallow people who haven't done the hard work to be able to say "See! I told you!  I was RIGHT!"

It's because of the extreme tribalism in modern politics, of which Trump is many politicians on both sides are guilty of stoking the flames daily.

I just wrote about this. Trump is the extreme example, but not the only one, and when he's gone, then what?   You've killed one roach but there are now 1,000's in the walls. 

As Dr. Phil says, the fundamental rule is "Don't reward bad behavior".

When we're discussing ramifications Trump himself is facing highlighting his major role and influence in the current paradigm is appropriate.

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Re: Harvey Weinstein
« Reply #1030 on: July 13, 2019, 02:31:19 PM »
What's really sad is that you just know that many Americans are hoping beyond hope that Donald Trump ends up being a part of this cover-up, and the same applies to many also hoping the same about Bill Clinton.

Why an American would want the stain of a current or former president being ousted as a pedophile is beyond me.  I get those from other countries wanting it, so they can point at us and laugh, but if you have any pride in the US at all, I feel you should not be rooting for this.  That is my two cents.

Because DEMOCRACY! and because it would allow a lot of shallow people who haven't done the hard work to be able to say "See! I told you!  I was RIGHT!"

It's because of the extreme tribalism in modern politics, of which Trump is many politicians on both sides are guilty of stoking the flames daily.

I just wrote about this. Trump is the extreme example, but not the only one, and when he's gone, then what?   You've killed one roach but there are now 1,000's in the walls. 

As Dr. Phil says, the fundamental rule is "Don't reward bad behavior".

When we're discussing ramifications Trump himself is facing highlighting his major role and influence in the current paradigm is appropriate.

(Dr Phil? Really?)

Appropriate, but perhaps incomplete, or misleading in the larger context, which we touched on. 

And yeah, Dr. Phil.  No apologies on that at all.   I stole "outrageous overshadowing" from him as well.   TV sensationalist/master pimp aside, he (psychologically) knows whereof he speaks. 

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« Reply #1031 on: July 13, 2019, 05:04:50 PM »
No, I should be allowed to point out Trump's extreme divisiveness and base appeal to tribalism in a conversation about him without having to skirt language to please Trump apologism. Just as you post directly about AOC and the like without fear of stepping on toes.

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« Reply #1032 on: July 13, 2019, 06:05:20 PM »
No, I should be allowed to point out Trump's extreme divisiveness and base appeal to tribalism in a conversation about him without having to skirt language to please Trump apologism. Just as you post directly about AOC and the like without fear of stepping on toes.

Not asking you to "skirt language that pleases Trump apologism".  This has nothing to do with Trump himself, but rather the bigger picture.  Do what you want, say what you want, I'm not here to quell that in any way shape or form.  I'm merely expanding your point as I do think - as I've said before - that focusing on Trump loses the big picture and virtually ensures that his tactics will be institutionalized even more than they already have been over the past 15 years or so.

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« Reply #1033 on: July 13, 2019, 06:12:23 PM »
And refusing to acknowledge the scope and egregiousness of the current sitting POTUS threatens to embolden him and have him skate to reelection with the thought that this is what America WANTS. Trump is a current problem who is doing real harm in real time and has been unchecked by Republicans in government and conservatives in public because of a refusal to look at him and hold him accountable for his own actions and place in the current situation. Case in point: I can't even point out his tactics of enflaming tribalism (something Dave posts about frequently, and correctly, Trump knows a united country would have no use for a leader like him) without being told I'm being unfair and not looking at the "bigger picture." Until Trump is treated as an issue and a current major problem, cries of missing the bigger picture ring hollow to me.

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« Reply #1034 on: July 15, 2019, 12:28:27 PM »
And refusing to acknowledge the scope and egregiousness of the current sitting POTUS threatens to embolden him and have him skate to reelection with the thought that this is what America WANTS. Trump is a current problem who is doing real harm in real time and has been unchecked by Republicans in government and conservatives in public because of a refusal to look at him and hold him accountable for his own actions and place in the current situation. Case in point: I can't even point out his tactics of enflaming tribalism (something Dave posts about frequently, and correctly, Trump knows a united country would have no use for a leader like him) without being told I'm being unfair and not looking at the "bigger picture." Until Trump is treated as an issue and a current major problem, cries of missing the bigger picture ring hollow to me.

But I think that's talking out of both sides of the mouth; if it's SO egregious, how does he win?  And at what point does his win settle the dispute?   I'm a critic of the ACA, but at the end of the day, my criticisms are technical in nature, and I've adhered to the provisions that apply to me.  No "resist!", no "not my President!".  Obama won fair and square, the Congress were seated fair and square, and so it was what it was. 

Look, I understand your point, I really do.  I also recognize the egregiousness of (some of) the things that Trump has done (I don't agree that all of them are as bad as some say). 

i do not agree that focusing on Trump unilaterally without understanding what will take his place is where we should be.  I saw too much on that Democratic debate stage that is just as harmful in it's own way to the United States.  You don't have to agree, naturally, but as bad as what Trump is doing, it's too easy to say "oh, that so bad, just get rid of it and we're fine!"   We're GOING to be rid of it. It's finite.  But what's in it's place?  What message are we sending when we ignore that he's just an extreme version of everyone else?   The message that "50% or 60% or 70% of Trump is okay"?   NO percent of Trump is okay.   NONE.   

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« Reply #1035 on: July 25, 2019, 09:36:22 AM »
Reportedly Epstein was found unresponsive in his cell.  Possibly an attempted suicide but in a prison population who knows?  I hear pedophiles aren't very well liked in the can.

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« Reply #1036 on: July 25, 2019, 09:54:42 AM »
Reportedly Epstein was found unresponsive in his cell.  Possibly an attempted suicide but in a prison population who knows?  I hear pedophiles aren't very well liked in the can.
My hunch is that he's not mixed in with the general population right now. It makes The Man look really bad when high profile inmates get shanked in what should be patently obvious circumstances. That said, I'd also be surprised if they didn't have him on a suicide watch. That would also be patently obvious.
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« Reply #1038 on: July 25, 2019, 09:44:08 PM »
Nothing says guilty like a jailhouse suicide attempt.


One of my buddies said Hillary tried to suicide him  :lol
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« Reply #1039 on: July 26, 2019, 05:05:10 AM »
Nothing says guilty like a jailhouse suicide attempt.


One of my buddies said Hillary tried to suicide him  :lol

She flew with Air Epstein too!   :omg:
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« Reply #1040 on: July 26, 2019, 10:50:34 AM »
Nothing says guilty like a jailhouse suicide attempt.


One of my buddies said Hillary tried to suicide him  :lol

She flew with Air Epstein too!   :omg:

Well, she is a lesbian. 

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Re: Harvey Weinstein
« Reply #1041 on: July 26, 2019, 10:52:15 AM »
(I feel I have to explain that:  it's TOTAL sarcasm, alluding to the plethora of nonsense surrounding her.  I'm not a fan, not at all, but the nonsense about pizza parlors and being a lesbian and what not are totally inappropriate and uncalled for.  There's PLENTY of legitimate, policy/political things to attack her on without making it personal.)

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Re: Harvey Weinstein
« Reply #1042 on: August 10, 2019, 07:15:00 AM »
And, even though he was supposedly on suicide watch, Epstein was found in his cell dead from an apparent suicide.



Nah, that doesn't seem at all shady.
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Re: Harvey Weinstein
« Reply #1043 on: August 10, 2019, 07:31:21 AM »
And, even though he was supposedly on suicide watch, Epstein was found in his cell dead from an apparent suicide.



Nah, that doesn't seem at all shady.

I just came here to say the EXACT same thing.   

You're the guy whose case could possibly implicate some of the most powerful and influential people in the world today.    Ask me if I ever believed for one second that this guy was going to live to see this through.   

My reaction when my wife told me pretty mirrored Iago from Aladdin.    "WHOA!!!  THERE'S a surprise!  I'm going to have a heart attack and DIE from that surprise!!"
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Re: Harvey Weinstein
« Reply #1044 on: August 10, 2019, 07:42:38 AM »
And, even though he was supposedly on suicide watch, Epstein was found in his cell dead from an apparent suicide.



Nah, that doesn't seem at all shady.

I knew it was only a matter of time. I'm more surprised they didn't ice him sooner.

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Re: Harvey Weinstein
« Reply #1045 on: August 10, 2019, 07:58:35 AM »
I said this a little over a month ago in the Trump thread about Epstein...

I will be shocked if anything comes of this, as far as any big names getting outed in any kind of big way.  I am sure Trump and the Clintons already have their hit men ready to go for when/if Epstein makes bail.  And no, I am not kidding.

Looks like they didn't wait for him to make bail. :lol :P

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Re: Harvey Weinstein
« Reply #1046 on: August 10, 2019, 08:58:48 AM »
Well I guess the distractions worked pretty well, enough for them to do their dirty deed.

Funny thing is, people are now more aware and are beginning to see above the waters. I feel those that did this just basically told on themselves, and now people will realize there are people that control everything.
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Re: Harvey Weinstein
« Reply #1047 on: August 10, 2019, 09:33:22 AM »
This story just got so much bigger.  Just because the fucker is dead, doesn't mean the evidence already gathered is gone.

And what a scandal for the Metropolitan Correctional Center.  A death by suicide of an inmate with a previous suicide attempt who is supposedly under close surveillance/suicide watch?  Even if the conspiracy theories are true, that still is a giant black eye on that federal prison system.

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Re: Harvey Weinstein
« Reply #1048 on: August 10, 2019, 10:01:43 AM »
And who thinks Ghislaine Maxwell is never heard from again?


No matter though, as Harmony alluded to, they're gonna bust out a really big magnifying glass on this one now.
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Re: Harvey Weinstein
« Reply #1049 on: August 10, 2019, 10:02:45 AM »
This story just got so much bigger.  Just because the fucker is dead, doesn't mean the evidence already gathered is gone.

And what a scandal for the Metropolitan Correctional Center.  A death by suicide of an inmate with a previous suicide attempt who is supposedly under close surveillance/suicide watch?  Even if the conspiracy theories are true, that still is a giant black eye on that federal prison system.

Crazy it happened once names got out. Bill Richardson, New Mexico ex Governer, was named. Now that is interesting locally because i remember him being praised highly by media and the likes.
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