Never cared for Hef's taste in women. Some were better than others, but for the most part he favored fake looking gals with giant bolt-on knockers which just isn't my thing. Moreover, even as an unabashed dirty old man, I thought he really became a really creepy old fuck. His time ended somewhere in the early 80s. However, back in the 60s/70s he really was the king. The Playboy lifestyle he crafted was really something else, and who wouldn't have wanted to party at the mansion (either of them) back when they were really swinging?