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How would you rate psycotic Symphony on a scale from 1 to 10?

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8 (3.4%)
9
13 (5.6%)
8
23 (9.9%)
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24 (10.3%)
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14 (6%)
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7 (3%)
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5390 on: November 13, 2019, 09:16:59 AM »
This is how the album starts: https://youtu.be/1JJuffjeSro

Who hears a touch of DT's New Millennium?

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It's only 40 seconds

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5391 on: November 13, 2019, 09:18:53 AM »
This is how the album starts: https://youtu.be/1JJuffjeSro

Who hears a touch of DT's New Millennium?

Time stamp? Not listening to a 20 min thing

It's only 40 seconds

The link he posted is to the 20 min interview with Bumblefoot :P
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5392 on: November 13, 2019, 10:17:23 AM »
https://youtu.be/485KSA6A_zw

Here is the teaser.

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5393 on: November 13, 2019, 10:18:58 AM »
That sounds very similar to new millennium

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5394 on: November 13, 2019, 10:23:16 AM »
I think that sounds terrible  :lol And is it just me or are they out of sync?
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5395 on: November 13, 2019, 10:31:28 AM »
Yeah I thought the same.  I cant believe that is an official teaser.  It sounds horrible....like a keyboardist is working out some ideas for a song.
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5396 on: November 13, 2019, 10:35:46 AM »
It doesn't sound much like anything to me, I'm not sure what's terrible about it though, it just doesn't sound like anything to get "teased" about

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« Reply #5397 on: November 13, 2019, 10:38:18 AM »
It doesn't sound much like anything to me, I'm not sure what's terrible about it though, it just doesn't sound like anything to get "teased" about

Yes I think that is more of what I meant to say.  On its own, like as an isolated keyboard track on a song, it isn't horrible.
Like you I think it is a horrible teaser for an album.  I kept waiting for the rest of the band to join in....but never does.... ???
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5398 on: November 13, 2019, 10:54:57 AM »
Nor does it really lead to anything, like sometimes these teasers are a highlight part of the song or sometimes its the beginning right up to where it gets interesting, ya know, leaving you wanting more.  A tease.  I'm not sure what this does.  Either way, the song will be out soon enough it seems. 

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5399 on: November 13, 2019, 10:57:53 AM »
I mean, as a keyboard riff I thought it was fine.

Didn't make me feel anything good or bad. Just kind of...there. Maybe not the response an artist wants though.





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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5400 on: November 13, 2019, 12:03:33 PM »
Yep, sounds a little like New Millennium, but without the annoying vocals.

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5401 on: November 13, 2019, 12:08:50 PM »
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5402 on: November 13, 2019, 12:10:45 PM »
Yep, sounds a little like New Millennium, but without the annoying vocals.

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5403 on: November 13, 2019, 12:12:06 PM »
Seems just an intro, for all we know the song goes completely into a different direction. We'll see.
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5404 on: November 13, 2019, 02:01:02 PM »
I thought it sounded pretty good.  At least it made me interested enough to hear the rest of the song.  I guess there is a NM feel?
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5405 on: November 13, 2019, 02:18:04 PM »
I guess there is a NM feel?

I wouldn't say there is a "NM feel."  But where people are getting NM is from the fact that the note progression is similar to the chord progression (I say "similar" because I believe it is in a different key) in the heavy, half-time part of the intro just before the vocals kick in (and keeps going underneath the vocals for a bit).
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5406 on: November 13, 2019, 02:23:49 PM »
I'll always get a FII vibe, just because Derek's tone is distinctive. At least to me.
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5407 on: November 13, 2019, 02:25:53 PM »
So I just realized I never got the Plovdiv blu-ray, as much as the MP talk has been entertaining, does anyone know where I can just get the blu-ray?  It seems amazon only has the CD/Blu-Ray/DVD pack which is just overload.  I only want a blu-ray and don't want to pay for the extras (I absolutely hate when they package a DVD and Blu-ray together, very redundant).  I remember someone shared that walmart sold this but I didn't buy back then since I wasn't going to be home for a bit to receive it.  Now I can't find it, including even in the inside out store. 

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5409 on: November 13, 2019, 02:41:10 PM »
If MMXX is just a rewrite of FII then I'd probably actually like it.

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5410 on: November 13, 2019, 02:47:22 PM »
If MMXX is just a rewrite of FII then I'd probably actually like it.

It's a tricky balance, and I think they need to be very careful in walking that line.  On one hand, if there are subtle callbacks to FII, I generally love that kind of thing and think it can be clever.  But more than a nod or two will definitely feel too much, and feel to me like they are relying too much on Mike's and Derek's connection to a more well-known brand (DT) than on their ability to forge their own identity as a band.  To give an example, when Queensryche did their s/t album after Tate was dismissed and LaTorre took over, there were a coupe of subtle references to their prior work, and I thought that was pretty cool and pretty fitting.  But, at least lyrically, that trend continued on Condition Human, and I felt like it crossed the line and actually detracted.  That line is very different for different people, and I think it's dangerous for them to even approach it, because it may alienate fans who just write them off as relying on their past and not having anything to say musically.
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5411 on: November 13, 2019, 02:52:37 PM »
This is how the album starts: https://youtu.be/1JJuffjeSro

Who hears a touch of DT's New Millennium?

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It's only 40 seconds

The link he posted is to the 20 min interview with Bumblefoot :P

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5412 on: November 13, 2019, 03:01:39 PM »
If MMXX is just a rewrite of FII then I'd probably actually like it.

It's a tricky balance, and I think they need to be very careful in walking that line.  On one hand, if there are subtle callbacks to FII, I generally love that kind of thing and think it can be clever.  But more than a nod or two will definitely feel too much, and feel to me like they are relying too much on Mike's and Derek's connection to a more well-known brand (DT) than on their ability to forge their own identity as a band.  To give an example, when Queensryche did their s/t album after Tate was dismissed and LaTorre took over, there were a coupe of subtle references to their prior work, and I thought that was pretty cool and pretty fitting.  But, at least lyrically, that trend continued on Condition Human, and I felt like it crossed the line and actually detracted.  That line is very different for different people, and I think it's dangerous for them to even approach it, because it may alienate fans who just write them off as relying on their past and not having anything to say musically.

I don't really get a rewrite or a call back to Falling Into Infinity. It's just Derek's tone and style. It naturally sounds that way. Now if the new SOA record has lyric lines that copy or call back to FII repeatedly, then I'd feel differently. But if their first record didn't have those, I don't think the second one would. What would be the point then, ya know? Unless I missed the call backs on the first SOA record.
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5413 on: November 13, 2019, 03:15:14 PM »
So I just realized I never got the Plovdiv blu-ray, as much as the MP talk has been entertaining, does anyone know where I can just get the blu-ray?  It seems amazon only has the CD/Blu-Ray/DVD pack which is just overload.  I only want a blu-ray and don't want to pay for the extras (I absolutely hate when they package a DVD and Blu-ray together, very redundant).  I remember someone shared that walmart sold this but I didn't buy back then since I wasn't going to be home for a bit to receive it.  Now I can't find it, including even in the inside out store.

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5414 on: November 13, 2019, 03:17:50 PM »
If MMXX is just a rewrite of FII then I'd probably actually like it.

It's a tricky balance, and I think they need to be very careful in walking that line.  On one hand, if there are subtle callbacks to FII, I generally love that kind of thing and think it can be clever.  But more than a nod or two will definitely feel too much, and feel to me like they are relying too much on Mike's and Derek's connection to a more well-known brand (DT) than on their ability to forge their own identity as a band.  To give an example, when Queensryche did their s/t album after Tate was dismissed and LaTorre took over, there were a coupe of subtle references to their prior work, and I thought that was pretty cool and pretty fitting.  But, at least lyrically, that trend continued on Condition Human, and I felt like it crossed the line and actually detracted.  That line is very different for different people, and I think it's dangerous for them to even approach it, because it may alienate fans who just write them off as relying on their past and not having anything to say musically.

I don't really get a rewrite or a call back to Falling Into Infinity. It's just Derek's tone and style. It naturally sounds that way. Now if the new SOA record has lyric lines that copy or call back to FII repeatedly, then I'd feel differently. But if their first record didn't have those, I don't think the second one would. What would be the point then, ya know? Unless I missed the call backs on the first SOA record.

I was kidding mainly. I love FII and don't like SoA/Psychotic Symphony, so the only way I'd probably like it is if it was a complete FII ripoff.

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5415 on: November 13, 2019, 03:21:10 PM »
So I just realized I never got the Plovdiv blu-ray, as much as the MP talk has been entertaining, does anyone know where I can just get the blu-ray?  It seems amazon only has the CD/Blu-Ray/DVD pack which is just overload.  I only want a blu-ray and don't want to pay for the extras (I absolutely hate when they package a DVD and Blu-ray together, very redundant).  I remember someone shared that walmart sold this but I didn't buy back then since I wasn't going to be home for a bit to receive it.  Now I can't find it, including even in the inside out store.

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5416 on: November 13, 2019, 05:30:48 PM »
Yep, sounds a little like New Millennium, but without the annoying vocals.
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5417 on: November 13, 2019, 05:48:00 PM »
Yep, sounds a little like New Millennium, but without the annoying vocals.

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5418 on: November 13, 2019, 06:52:53 PM »
If MMXX is just a rewrite of FII then I'd probably actually like it.

Maybe this time it'll be actually good. :corn
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« Reply #5419 on: November 13, 2019, 08:13:06 PM »
If MMXX is just a rewrite of FII then I'd probably actually like it.

Maybe this time it'll be actually good. :corn

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5420 on: November 13, 2019, 08:48:22 PM »
If MMXX is just a rewrite of FII then I'd probably actually like it.

Maybe this time it'll be actually good. :corn

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Well FII is one of those controversial albums.  You either like it or you don't.  Although it seems that more folks on this forum view it more favorably now than they did 10 years ago when I first started lurking.

I for one like it and I think NM is an awesome song.
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« Reply #5421 on: November 14, 2019, 05:20:12 AM »
If MMXX is just a rewrite of FII then I'd probably actually like it.

Maybe this time it'll be actually good. :corn

Woah, woah, woah! Simmer down there, sparky.  Falling into Infinity is damn good as is.  :coolio

Well FII is one of those controversial albums.  You either like it or you don't.  Although it seems that more folks on this forum view it more favorably now than they did 10 years ago when I first started lurking.

I for one like it and I think NM is an awesome song.

I like it, but don’t love it, and it’s definitely a bottom 3 album from the DT catalog for me. Still quite good tho.
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5422 on: November 14, 2019, 11:51:51 AM »
I feel the same, its bottom tier DT for me but has good songs and isn't a bad album at all.

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« Reply #5423 on: November 14, 2019, 12:34:19 PM »
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5424 on: November 14, 2019, 12:35:13 PM »
Yep, sounds a little like New Millennium, but without the annoying vocals.

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