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Author Topic: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)  (Read 468129 times)

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5250 on: October 18, 2019, 07:49:28 AM »
I was optimistic for round 2, and that interview didn't help and the joking part (great playing, bad songs) wasn't the reason.  I could almost envision Ron laughing that off, but everything he said surrounding that statement just makes me feel like we are going to get the same album again which then almost make the joke not really one.

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5251 on: October 18, 2019, 08:14:52 AM »
I believe that Ron was truly joking about the general criticism for prog or prog metal in particular... but I also expect that the album will be very similar to first one, which I liked a lot. I was expecting that already, because of the same pattern for album's creation that the band adopted, and much more after the few things about the album that Derek and Ron said. When someone says, "this album is heavier than the first", more often than not, there won't be much modification in style.
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5252 on: October 18, 2019, 09:24:51 AM »
 Here's my interview with Derek: https://www.sonicperspectives.com/features/interview-with-sherinian-derek/?fbclid=IwAR2m3H-V8Ryi1wzlMtQj1l25ME8TSdthd7cJhcFk_dnuABMxjmi95FQwSSM

 I hope you guys enjoy it, and please share it. There are insights on his tenure with DT, working with Alice Cooper, Kiss, Planet X, Black Country Communion, Sons of Apollo, Malmsteen, Billy Idol etc etc etc.

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5253 on: October 18, 2019, 09:46:31 AM »
I'm 17 minutes into the interview, is pretty good so far but I had to stop because of a comment he made;

"If you are reading it, you are not feeling it" talking in regards to reading or memorizing music to play on stage. Find it funny based on recent comments made here about his stage presence  :lol
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5254 on: October 18, 2019, 09:49:23 AM »
Here's my interview with Derek: https://www.sonicperspectives.com/features/interview-with-sherinian-derek/?fbclid=IwAR2m3H-V8Ryi1wzlMtQj1l25ME8TSdthd7cJhcFk_dnuABMxjmi95FQwSSM

 I hope you guys enjoy it, and please share it. There are insights on his tenure with DT, working with Alice Cooper, Kiss, Planet X, Black Country Communion, Sons of Apollo, Malmsteen, Billy Idol etc etc etc.

Had the chance to listen to the interview a couple of days ago, a very good job Rodrigo!

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5255 on: October 18, 2019, 10:20:17 AM »
I'm 17 minutes into the interview, is pretty good so far but I had to stop because of a comment he made;

"If you are reading it, you are not feeling it" talking in regards to reading or memorizing music to play on stage. Find it funny based on recent comments made here about his stage presence  :lol

He addressed the stage presence thing later in the interview.

BTW I found the message when @Rodrigo step forward to do the interview with Derek 2 years ago.




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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5256 on: October 18, 2019, 10:33:31 AM »
Great interview.  Given all of the complaining about Derek on these forums, I figured he'd come off like a pompous guy.  But he was very personable in the interview - it was fun to hear him talk about the musicians he's worked with as a real a fan of them all.  He could easily just sit and brag, but he really showed that he was happy and excited about those opportunities.

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5257 on: October 18, 2019, 11:00:18 AM »
Yeah, from what I had heard about him through the years and in his days of posting here, he always came across the way you describe, Grapp.  I'm not sure why the difference.
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5258 on: October 18, 2019, 11:36:14 AM »
For a long, long time I thought Derek was playing it tongue-in-cheek, 100% the arrogant asshole rock star, but it's 100% understood that he's just playing.  It's rock and roll, none of it's real anyway, blah blah blah.  I've always loved "Making history... and you?"

Then on the ramp up to SoA, he either pushed it too far, or started taking himself too seriously, or something, because I started thinking "Wait... he actually is an arrogant asshole rock star? The joke is serious? What is real anymore? What should I have for dinner?"

Now I don't even know what to think.  Still love his playing, though.

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5259 on: October 18, 2019, 11:41:53 AM »
Now I don't even know what to think. 

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5260 on: October 18, 2019, 12:03:30 PM »
Great interview, Rodrigo, you're very prepared, objective and fluid, and makes really good questions!
Derek is really nice on this interview... about his stage presence I also see him like a compenetrated musician - since his days in DT - like, let's say, Neil Peart. I never had the feeling of them being disconnected or bored at all. Maybe they are a bit of shy people after all.
But it kinda suprised me he saying (not paraphasing him, from what I understood) that he likes better being more perfect in his performance than be "a show man". Because his rock'n'roll background, I thought he would say otherwise.
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5261 on: October 18, 2019, 12:15:42 PM »
I only started listening but its interesting and he definitely comes off well from what I heard.  Haven't gotten to the juicy parts about his appearance but Im honestly not sure anything he says will change the way I felt when I met him at the progpower meet and greet, especially the way everyone else in that band came off when meeting them, including MP.

I've become a big Bumblefoot and JSS fan since SOA formed because of how they perform on stage but also the way they treated me when I met them. 

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5262 on: October 18, 2019, 01:47:29 PM »
Now I don't even know what to think. 

Pizza is always a good choice.

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5263 on: October 18, 2019, 01:57:42 PM »
Haven't listened, but based on the conversation I was also getting a Neil Peart vibe. Little to no emotion on stage and shuns public interaction with fans. Neil comes off amazing in interviews but has always made it clear that he has no tolerance for a stranger encroaching on his personal space.
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« Reply #5264 on: October 18, 2019, 02:11:30 PM »
Haven't listened, but based on the conversation I was also getting a Neil Peart vibe. Little to no emotion on stage and shuns public interaction with fans. Neil comes off amazing in interviews but has always made it clear that he has no tolerance for a stranger encroaching on his personal space.

I saw them here in Toronto, and Derek got me the ticket for the afterparty. I met Sheehan and spoke with him, spoke a lot more with Bumblefoot (and it helped that I had also interviewed him). Soto didn't come for the afterparty, and I met Mike as he was getting on the bus. Derek was there, but he has family in Toronto and looked like he wanted to spend time with them, so I didn't want to push my luck - it was already surreal to be there, and I just didn't want to bother him.

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5265 on: October 18, 2019, 02:42:14 PM »
Derek was there, but he has family in Toronto and looked like he wanted to spend time with them, so I didn't want to push my luck - it was already surreal to be there, and I just didn't want to bother him.
Meanwhile, Derek: "thought this guy was cooler than your average journo, so I hooked him up with afterparty tix, and then the damn dude shows up and doesn't even talk to me! what the hell!"  :lol

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« Reply #5266 on: October 18, 2019, 03:15:09 PM »
Derek was there, but he has family in Toronto and looked like he wanted to spend time with them, so I didn't want to push my luck - it was already surreal to be there, and I just didn't want to bother him.
Meanwhile, Derek: "thought this guy was cooler than your average journo, so I hooked him up with afterparty tix, and then the damn dude shows up and doesn't even talk to me! what the hell!"  :lol

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5267 on: October 18, 2019, 04:19:58 PM »
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5269 on: October 18, 2019, 05:27:33 PM »
Where is Derek in that scene?  I know that is Stef Burns with the guitar, and I believe Pete Friesen sitting next to him.  It's hard to tell, but when Wayne and Garth step forward about about the :25 mark and the camera quickly pans to follow them, I think that's Jimmy DeGrasso on the couch to the left of Garth (Garth's right) with the glass in his hand, but hard to tell because it is so quick.  But I can't find Derek.  (and if that wasn't Jimmy, I can't find him either)
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5272 on: October 18, 2019, 06:02:34 PM »
Where is Derek in that scene?  I know that is Stef Burns with the guitar, and I believe Pete Friesen sitting next to him.  It's hard to tell, but when Wayne and Garth step forward about about the :25 mark and the camera quickly pans to follow them, I think that's Jimmy DeGrasso on the couch to the left of Garth (Garth's right) with the glass in his hand, but hard to tell because it is so quick.  But I can't find Derek.  (and if that wasn't Jimmy, I can't find him either)

That's Derek on the couch.
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5273 on: October 18, 2019, 06:03:43 PM »
TAC, he has long hair on the video.

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5274 on: October 18, 2019, 06:06:03 PM »
Yea I remember watching that scene only a few years ago and did a double take on Derek (I never noticed him in my younger years watching as I didnt know who he was then).  It was like a huge revelation.  Also I did listen to that part in the interview which was awesome to bring up since its such a cool little tidbit to be in that amazing scene.  WERE NOT WORTHY!

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5275 on: October 18, 2019, 06:06:24 PM »
TAC, he has long hair on the video.

I know! I saw the tour twice! ;D


At the 24 second mark, that's Derek siting on the couch with a raised glass.
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5276 on: October 18, 2019, 06:08:34 PM »
Here's some great footage from their In Concert '91 TV appearance. Includes Vinnie Moore and Eric Singer.
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5277 on: October 18, 2019, 06:21:50 PM »
he looks the exact same still  :lol

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5278 on: October 18, 2019, 07:21:31 PM »
Damn, that's a monster tone he played over the phone in the interview. Thanks Rodrigo!

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5279 on: October 18, 2019, 07:28:40 PM »
Damn, that's a monster tone he played over the phone in the interview. Thanks Rodrigo!

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5283 on: October 18, 2019, 09:28:28 PM »
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« Reply #5284 on: October 18, 2019, 09:57:28 PM »
I got through 75% of the interview so far and you know my opinion on Derek has changed a bit. He actually came across very pleasant in the interview.