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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5180 on: September 08, 2019, 09:34:04 AM »

It's better than I thought, but the main word I can use is...........boring.


I felt it was a bit stale with no energy. I don't think it was necessarily boring, but it lacked the energy of live recordings.

Could that have been the venue? Still trying to figure out why there doesn't seem to be a meaningful energy level.  Is there some context that is missing?

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5181 on: September 08, 2019, 09:42:15 AM »
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5182 on: September 08, 2019, 09:55:32 AM »
Madman...JLB MORE consistent than Jeff Scott Soto? What did I miss, man? I can't think of a more inconsistent singer than James!

 I think the attitude and a few statements of the band members set an impossible standard for DT fans - especially Derek. It's almost like some of us are determined to examine and over-analyze every minutiae of SOA just to be critical. But to each his own. I love the live album. JSS does seem to struggle on a few tracks, but pulls all of them off. He sings them on his own voice and doesn't try to mimic the original singer's voice.

Only if you believed those original statements.

I was hoping for better chemistry but sometimes that just isn't possible.

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5183 on: September 08, 2019, 09:59:13 AM »
I still hold my opinion that Soto sounds like a poor man's Russell Allen. A similar tone/approach, but without the range and power.

I'm not a fan of Russell Allen's work so I suppose that would make some sense in why I'm not a fan of Soto's either.

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5184 on: September 08, 2019, 01:26:37 PM »
I'm not a fan if Russell Allen but I actually like Soto more, though I do get the comparisons
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5185 on: September 08, 2019, 02:31:45 PM »
Just watched Comfortably Numb. Here's something I never, ever thought I would say in my lifetime: Mike's vocals were better than those of the lead singer.

Sounded auto tuned to Hell to me.

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5186 on: September 08, 2019, 02:39:31 PM »
Second album is off for mixing.

https://twitter.com/DerekSherinian/status/1170388210804908033

Not a big fan of the first one, but looking forward to the 2nd.
It sounds like, "ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk." Instead of the more pleasing kick drum sound of, "gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk."

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5187 on: September 09, 2019, 10:01:17 AM »
Why does Derek do the king of keys thing at the end of every twitter and instagram post?

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5188 on: September 09, 2019, 10:05:47 AM »
Because kings gotta king.
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5189 on: September 09, 2019, 10:20:00 AM »
Why does Derek do the king of keys thing at the end of every twitter and instagram post?

Because he's trying to convince people he is something he actually isn't.
It sounds like, "ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk." Instead of the more pleasing kick drum sound of, "gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk."

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5190 on: September 09, 2019, 10:43:31 AM »
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5191 on: September 11, 2019, 08:22:44 AM »
Why does Derek do the king of keys thing at the end of every twitter and instagram post?

Because kings gotta king.

"Any man who must say, 'I am the king' is no true king." -- Tywin Lannister
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5192 on: September 11, 2019, 08:48:50 AM »
Say it enough and it becomes true.

Remember when Howard Stern was "King of All Media"?  Someone asked him how that came about, and he said he did it on purpose.  If Michael Jackson could just decide that he was "King of Pop" and start calling himself that, Stern decided that he would start pimping himself as "King of All Media" and see if it stuck, and it did for a while.

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5193 on: September 11, 2019, 08:53:55 AM »
Say it enough and it becomes true.

Remember when Howard Stern was "King of All Media"?  Someone asked him how that came about, and he said he did it on purpose.  If Michael Jackson could just decide that he was "King of Pop" and start calling himself that, Stern decided that he would start pimping himself as "King of All Media" and see if it stuck, and it did for a while.

It's still stuck; he uses ad bumpers that say that all the time.

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5194 on: September 11, 2019, 09:05:10 AM »
Amazing.  I kinda stopped following Howard a while back, but that's amazing that he just "crowned" himself King of All Media, and -- ta-da! -- now he is, and still is.

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5195 on: September 11, 2019, 09:15:25 AM »
I mean... Simba kept talking about being king...

And then it happened.

I just don't understand what they were trying to achieve with any part of the song, either individually or as a whole. You know what? It's the Platypus of Dream Theater songs. That bill doesn't go with that tail, or that strange little furry body, or those webbed feet, and oh god why does it have venomous spurs!? And then you find out it lays eggs too. The difference is that the Platypus is somehow functional despite being a crazy mishmash or leftover animal pieces

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5196 on: September 11, 2019, 09:20:38 AM »
Hmmmm. I hereby declare myself King of DTF.

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5197 on: September 11, 2019, 09:28:34 AM »
I am the Master Of My Domain.

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5198 on: September 11, 2019, 09:33:16 AM »
I am the Master Of My Domain.

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5199 on: September 11, 2019, 11:38:13 AM »
So I guess he thinks he's more than what he is? Common for us humans.

I'd say the king of keys off the top of my head would be any of the following
Rick Wakeman
Keith Emerson
Jordan Rudess
Jens Johannson

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5201 on: September 11, 2019, 12:27:47 PM »
So I guess he thinks he's more than what he is? Common for us humans.

I'd say the king of keys off the top of my head would be any of the following
Rick Wakeman
Keith Emerson
Jordan Rudess
Jens Johannson

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5202 on: September 11, 2019, 12:59:37 PM »
Hmmmm. I hereby declare myself King of DTF.

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5203 on: September 11, 2019, 01:20:27 PM »
It sounds like, "ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk." Instead of the more pleasing kick drum sound of, "gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk."

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« Reply #5204 on: September 11, 2019, 01:42:56 PM »
The question is though: Who will be the Viper King of DTF or anything else? :D
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« Reply #5206 on: September 11, 2019, 04:36:23 PM »
Wait..
This whole king thing is just ceremonial, right? I don't actually have any duties, do I? ♚

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5207 on: September 11, 2019, 10:13:35 PM »
Wait..
This whole king thing is just ceremonial, right? I don't actually have any duties, do I? ♚


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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5208 on: September 12, 2019, 05:33:29 AM »
Who reads the manual?

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5209 on: September 13, 2019, 07:18:14 PM »

It's better than I thought, but the main word I can use is...........boring.


I felt it was a bit stale with no energy. I don't think it was necessarily boring, but it lacked the energy of live recordings.

Could that have been the venue? Still trying to figure out why there doesn't seem to be a meaningful energy level.  Is there some context that is missing?


Ok I just watched this over 2 nights and this really isn't THAT bad.  This is SO much better than the studio album. Probably made the right decision getting this CD/DVD over seeing them live. Soto was a bit better than I thought he was going to be too. Still not a fan of his work but I think he does a decent enough job in this setting. The originals and the orchestra were definitely the highlights for me.

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5210 on: September 14, 2019, 10:01:11 AM »

It's better than I thought, but the main word I can use is...........boring.


I felt it was a bit stale with no energy. I don't think it was necessarily boring, but it lacked the energy of live recordings.

Could that have been the venue? Still trying to figure out why there doesn't seem to be a meaningful energy level.  Is there some context that is missing?


Ok I just watched this over 2 nights and this really isn't THAT bad.  This is SO much better than the studio album.

How is this better than the studio album? I agree that it is better than expected but I just don't really understand your comment.

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« Reply #5211 on: September 16, 2019, 06:28:28 PM »
I FINALLY have the blu ray.  Order was shipped two weeks ago from Laser's Edge.  Usually, they are fast.  I selected Media Mail to save a buck or two, knowing it would be a little slower.  No biggie.  The fucking USPS sent it from New Jersey all the way across the country to Los Angeles, and then BACK to Chicago.  WTF?  I would have had it a week ago, had it not completely passed me up and went 2,000 miles farther than it needed to go.

Anyways, I'm watching it now and it looks and sounds fantastic.  The band is rocking pretty good - I think having the crowd so far away at that venue might take away a little of the energy of a full live package, since it looks like they're just on a soundstage at times.  But I don't have any problems with the performance at all.  They look like they'd be a ton of fun to see live.

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5212 on: September 16, 2019, 07:27:49 PM »
Ha! It has happened to me too. In fact I am expecting by thursday a package that was sent last thursday from Hialeah to Miami. 32 to minutes apart, well, the package arrived to Miami on Friday and now it is in Jacksonvile!!! What the f*ck!!!?!?!?!? Anyway, I am super pumped to received this package!

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« Reply #5213 on: September 17, 2019, 08:43:35 AM »
Ha! It has happened to me too. In fact I am expecting by thursday a package that was sent last thursday from Hialeah to Miami. 32 to minutes apart, well, the package arrived to Miami on Friday and now it is in Jacksonvile!!! What the f*ck!!!?!?!?!? Anyway, I am super pumped to received this package!

The package it's now at Dallas, TX. hahahaha

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« Reply #5214 on: September 18, 2019, 06:33:59 PM »

It's better than I thought, but the main word I can use is...........boring.


I felt it was a bit stale with no energy. I don't think it was necessarily boring, but it lacked the energy of live recordings.

Could that have been the venue? Still trying to figure out why there doesn't seem to be a meaningful energy level.  Is there some context that is missing?


Ok I just watched this over 2 nights and this really isn't THAT bad.  This is SO much better than the studio album.

How is this better than the studio album? I agree that it is better than expected but I just don't really understand your comment.

Studio album was just kind of there for me. I like the live album more because it's it's a much more organic experience.  I thought the orchestra added to the experience and they seemed to really stretch out on the originals and I think those are much better inspired versions. (although I really wasn't blown away by the improvement because it was expected.)

Also, I can listen to Billy Sheehan live just about any day of the week.
The solo spots were very tasteful and I have to admit Soto was a bit better live than I expected.    The covers really didn't do a lot for me for the most part. 

Have to admit I thought I made a mistake in buying this when Mike was nice enough to post those You Tube videos. But actually watching the DVD was a different experience.