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Author Topic: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)  (Read 468158 times)

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5110 on: August 30, 2019, 11:42:30 AM »
 :lol I've seen those claims here plenty of times and don't deny them, my ears don't notice unless I really try. I know others have more sensitive ears and that stuff bothers them though, I get it, I'd rather them not loop the crowd noises and fake it.  If it's not there, it's not there. 

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5111 on: August 30, 2019, 05:57:54 PM »
Live at Luna Park is borderline infuriating to me because of this. I can't un-hear the crowd loop anymore whenever I pull that album out, which unfortunately isn't very often for me. Seems like a stupid reason to not listen to it I know, but it just interferes with my overall enjoyment of that album.

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5112 on: August 30, 2019, 07:01:27 PM »
^^ Nahhh, it's not a stupid reason to not listen to Live at Luna Park.  You think for a show in South America, I would expect the crowd there to be almost as ampted as Rush in Rio or Iron Maiden's Rock in Rio, and I feel like that didn't happen there and if it did, it wasn't as well mixed.   I did feel like the crowd was better mixed in Breaking the Fourth Wall (which apparently, I hear around here that they also added some post-production effects to that as well?).
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5113 on: August 30, 2019, 07:06:32 PM »
LALP simply is not a good live album. It literally sounds like the entire thing was done in the studio with a crowd dubbed in. BTFW might actually be worse.
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5114 on: August 30, 2019, 07:29:23 PM »
LALP simply is not a good live album. It literally sounds like the entire thing was done in the studio with a crowd dubbed in. BTFW might actually be worse.

Gotta agree with this. I like the production values of the two but maaan they don't feel live at all
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5115 on: August 30, 2019, 07:31:37 PM »
The boot to the BTFW show is awesome.

Like James not remembering Erin's name, and thanking the "Boston" college of music. :facepalm: :lol
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5116 on: August 30, 2019, 08:07:37 PM »
No one should ever thank a Boston anything. :P

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« Reply #5117 on: August 30, 2019, 08:37:54 PM »
No one should ever thank a Boston anything. :P
Unless it's Tom Scholz..  :coolio
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5118 on: August 31, 2019, 12:39:55 AM »
LALP simply is not a good live album. It literally sounds like the entire thing was done in the studio with a crowd dubbed in. BTFW might actually be worse.

Gotta agree with this. I like the production values of the two but maaan they don't feel live at all
the notes are good though, that's what matters to me and so I listen to both of them regularly
Back to the topic at hand: I like how the live recording preserves some of the dynamics IMHO (which is not a given nowadays) and I'm sure that the guys had a good time that evening. (in that nothing is ever sounding "forced" in any way, in case you see what I mean) One thing I absolutely didn't take to kindly at all was The Show Must Go On. There only was one Freddie.
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5119 on: August 31, 2019, 06:37:18 AM »
No one should ever thank a Boston anything. :P
Unless it's Tom Scholz..  :coolio

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5120 on: August 31, 2019, 09:18:10 AM »
I listened to the first track on Google Play Music and the recording sounds very muted, does anyone know if that is how the sound quality is for the blu-ray as well? I mean I don't care about audience noise or lack thereof and if it's piped in or not. I pay more attention to the instruments and if they are mixed in well.

I imagine the bluray to have more depth and meat in the audio track.
I can't find any technical details on the streams, does anyone have the bluray and care to chime in?
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5121 on: August 31, 2019, 11:52:51 AM »
No one should ever thank a Boston anything. :P
Unless it's Tom Scholz..  :coolio

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« Reply #5122 on: August 31, 2019, 11:56:11 AM »
Almost wondering if I should get the CD and DVD separately. I don't think I need an art book from this band. The level of interest just isn't there.

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5123 on: August 31, 2019, 12:05:03 PM »
Almost wondering if I should get the CD and DVD separately. I don't think I need an art book from this band. The level of interest just isn't there.
I'd say yes go get the CD/DVD version, because it features the entire show on the CDs. (in case you want to listen to the entire show that is)
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« Reply #5124 on: August 31, 2019, 12:21:11 PM »
Almost wondering if I should get the CD and DVD separately. I don't think I need an art book from this band. The level of interest just isn't there.
I'd say yes go get the CD/DVD version, because it features the entire show on the CDs. (in case you want to listen to the entire show that is)

Losing the covers (especially those covers) doesn't really bother me like it might to some others.

 I just want something basic to hear and watch as the mood strikes.  Have to assume it's better than the studio album which I've not pulled off of the shelf in almost a year.

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5125 on: August 31, 2019, 12:24:15 PM »
Almost wondering if I should get the CD and DVD separately. I don't think I need an art book from this band. The level of interest just isn't there.
I'd say yes go get the CD/DVD version, because it features the entire show on the CDs. (in case you want to listen to the entire show that is)

Losing the covers (especially those covers) doesn't really bother me like it might to some others.

 I just want something basic to hear and watch as the mood strikes.  Have to assume it's better than the studio album which I've not pulled off of the shelf in almost a year.
I like to think it is better than the studio album (by quite a considerable margin if I may say so myself, having only listened to the studio album once. The live album is a lot more "vibrant", if that word is a good descriptor)
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5126 on: September 01, 2019, 11:18:29 AM »
Not had chance to watch the full thing yet with any great volume but I played the covers on the blu Ray. I liked what I heard but the guitar and vocals are mixed a bit low for me.

I’m a fan of the album so quite looking forward to seeing the whole thing.

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« Reply #5127 on: September 01, 2019, 11:20:20 AM »
Not had chance to watch the full thing yet with any great volume but I played the covers on the blu Ray. I liked what I heard but the guitar and vocals are mixed a bit low for me.

I’m a fan of the album so quite looking forward to seeing the whole thing.
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« Reply #5128 on: September 01, 2019, 11:22:02 AM »
Not had chance to watch the full thing yet with any great volume but I played the covers on the blu Ray. I liked what I heard but the guitar and vocals are mixed a bit low for me.

I’m a fan of the album so quite looking forward to seeing the whole thing.
I'm sure you'll enjoy yourself

I'm also sure he will. What about Sons of Apollo though?
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5129 on: September 02, 2019, 10:34:14 AM »
Delivery delayed another week. My friend didn't preorder and new orders are saying they will be shipped in one month. What the hell is going on?

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« Reply #5130 on: September 02, 2019, 11:36:57 AM »
Delivery delayed another week. My friend didn't preorder and new orders are saying they will be shipped in one month. What the hell is going on?

Isn't that the modus operandi for Amazon these days?  I don't bother with ordering music from them any more since it doesn't seem to be a priority.

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« Reply #5131 on: September 02, 2019, 11:52:48 AM »
Delivery delayed another week. My friend didn't preorder and new orders are saying they will be shipped in one month. What the hell is going on?

Isn't that the modus operandi for Amazon these days?  I don't bother with ordering music from them any more since it doesn't seem to be a priority.

I remember when I'd order things on Amazon and it would arrive a day or 2 before the release date.


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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5132 on: September 02, 2019, 11:57:03 AM »
Amazon and Inside Out seem to have issues. I pre-order lots of music from Amazon and I routinely run into issues with Inside Out pre-orders. Not sure what the deal is with that.
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5133 on: September 02, 2019, 11:59:07 AM »
Amazon said delivery would by Sep 29th. Walmart said Sep 5th.

Walmart it is.
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5134 on: September 02, 2019, 11:59:22 AM »
Delivery delayed another week. My friend didn't preorder and new orders are saying they will be shipped in one month. What the hell is going on?

Isn't that the modus operandi for Amazon these days?  I don't bother with ordering music from them any more since it doesn't seem to be a priority.

I remember when I'd order things on Amazon and it would arrive a day or 2 before the release date.


Those were good times.
very much so, and this is why I don't order my records with them anymore. I prefer Highresaudio.de (it's the German equivalent to HDtracks)
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5135 on: September 02, 2019, 12:35:58 PM »
Amazon said delivery would by Sep 29th. Walmart said Sep 5th.

Walmart it is.

hmm I see walmart sells the blu-ray only as well.  Might be getting mine there, but I'll hold off until after my travels the next couple weeks.

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« Reply #5136 on: September 02, 2019, 03:38:55 PM »
FROM MP FB page

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I hope you are all now enjoying the brand new Sons Of Apollo Live release “Live With The Plovdiv Psychotic Symphony”
As you may have noticed, there are 2 cover songs that are on the CDs that we weren’t allowed to include on the Blu-ray or DVD because the label could not secure the video synch liscenses from the original bands. 😔

I’m sharing these 2 tracks for you to enjoy while you can…
I encourage you all to copy, save and share just in case “the powers that BLEED” eventually take it down...
Enjoy! 😎

Dream On:
https://youtu.be/jUzjilTxdzk

Comfortably Numb:
https://youtu.be/FwrXiM6590s

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5137 on: September 02, 2019, 04:16:29 PM »
That's awesome, I'll watch them later.

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5138 on: September 02, 2019, 04:17:12 PM »
MP being very cool! :tup
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« Reply #5139 on: September 02, 2019, 04:19:42 PM »
That's awesome, I'll watch them later.

I just downloaded them before YT blocks/remove them (It's a possibilty)

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5140 on: September 02, 2019, 04:46:45 PM »
Watched Dream On.

It was okay. Jeff did okay.  The band played it as close to identical as possible, minus some drum fills, which I’m never a fan of.

Also another example of a pointless orchestra/choir.

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« Reply #5141 on: September 02, 2019, 05:07:37 PM »
Just watched Comfortably Numb. Here's something I never, ever thought I would say in my lifetime: Mike's vocals were better than those of the lead singer.
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« Reply #5142 on: September 02, 2019, 06:50:10 PM »
Dream On is actually pretty good. Even though JSS sounds like he's straining, the song suited his voice, like his gritty high "Dream On".
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5143 on: September 02, 2019, 07:51:05 PM »
Delivery delayed another week. My friend didn't preorder and new orders are saying they will be shipped in one month. What the hell is going on?

Isn't that the modus operandi for Amazon these days?  I don't bother with ordering music from them any more since it doesn't seem to be a priority.

Yeah, last three new release I bought from there were all delayed. 2 were Inside Out, one was Frontier Records.

On the flip side, when I ordered the new Sacred Reich from indiemerch, it came 4 days early.

Just watched Comfortably Numb. Here's something I never, ever thought I would say in my lifetime: Mike's vocals were better than those of the lead singer.

You noticed that too? A little suspect to me, though. I suspect dubbing. He has never sounded that smooth live.

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #5144 on: September 02, 2019, 07:53:15 PM »
This thread encouraged me to go back and listen to the debut again. My recollection was it was "OK but not Dream Theater".

So...yikes. This is awful. Some decent parts in God of the Sun. Solid, though, generic, chorus in Labyrinth. But as an album this is unlistenable for me. Just bland, disjointed songwriting with nothing to lift it up.

Dream Theater with a different singer would be better than this but it's scary that Portnoy wanted to replace James with a more powerful, lower voice.