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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #4375 on: September 27, 2018, 03:27:04 PM »
I really enjoyed Sons of Apollo live, more than I enjoy their actual record. I'll be buying the live release for my collection. My hope is, the time on the road and camaraderie between them lead to a better second studio album.
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #4376 on: September 27, 2018, 08:48:11 PM »
I hope they don't rush the second album so that we get to see the real potential of this band.

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #4377 on: September 28, 2018, 05:55:08 AM »
I hope they don't rush the second album so that we get to see the real potential of this band.

That's impossible with MP on board. He prefers to bang these things out just to have another "product" to tour behind, thus leading to all his projects starting to sound the same nowadays.

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #4378 on: September 28, 2018, 12:07:37 PM »
I hope they don't rush the second album so that we get to see the real potential of this band.

That's impossible with MP on board. He prefers to bang these things out just to have another "product" to tour behind, thus leading to all his projects starting to sound the same nowadays.

Well, then this band is doomed as well. I give it one more tour before MP declares the band "commercially unviable".

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #4379 on: September 28, 2018, 01:19:52 PM »
If you mean "doomed" to write another really good album, I agree. 
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #4380 on: September 28, 2018, 01:22:37 PM »
I hope they don't rush the second album so that we get to see the real potential of this band.

That's impossible with MP on board. He prefers to bang these things out just to have another "product" to tour behind, thus leading to all his projects starting to sound the same nowadays.

Well, then this band is doomed as well. I give it one more tour before MP declares the band "commercially unviable".

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #4381 on: September 28, 2018, 01:23:05 PM »
well, JSS said in an interview that the new record wouldn't come out in 2019, because of scheduling conflicts making touring soon after release impossible.


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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #4383 on: September 28, 2018, 01:54:33 PM »
well, JSS said in an interview that the new record wouldn't come out in 2019, because of scheduling conflicts making touring soon after release impossible.
Really, wow... :tdwn Do you have the link? If it's really the case, I think it's the first concrete bad sign about the future of SoA. If I remember correctly, someone of the band stated in another interview (an older one) that the band would put a lot of effort in the first 2 years (2018 and 2019) to see if things take off for them. If now they already decided kind of skip 2019 (at least for touring), definately it isn't a good sign IMO.
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #4384 on: September 28, 2018, 01:59:51 PM »
well, JSS said in an interview that the new record wouldn't come out in 2019, because of scheduling conflicts making touring soon after release impossible.
Really, wow... :tdwn Do you have the link? If it's really the case, I think it's the first concrete bad sign about the future of SoA. If I remember correctly, someone of the band stated in another interview (an older one) that the band would put a lot of effort in the first 2 years (2018 and 2019) to see if things take off for them. If now they already decided kind of skip 2019 (at least for touring), definately it isn't a good sign IMO.

It's somewhere in this thread.  They plan on recording the album in 2019, but don't think it would be released until early 2020 because they would want to tour immediately instead of waiting until after JSS's commitments to TSO.  So I wouldn't say its a bad sign about the future, I'd say it's positive that they are talking about a follow up album.  But that does leave most of 2019 for the rest of the band to do other things, which could lead to more questions about the future I guess like say if TWD get back to work on another album.  But who knows.

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #4385 on: September 28, 2018, 02:03:58 PM »
Does that mean MP can go and do some Flying Colors and Transatlantic? That's totally fine
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #4386 on: September 28, 2018, 02:05:41 PM »
sounds cool to me, though the sea within is also trying to tour. They now left out Daniel Gildenlow completely from the bandmember list. XD

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #4387 on: September 28, 2018, 02:05:59 PM »
Thanks for the explanation, cramx3.
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #4388 on: September 28, 2018, 02:09:27 PM »
well, JSS said in an interview that the new record wouldn't come out in 2019, because of scheduling conflicts making touring soon after release impossible.
Really, wow... :tdwn Do you have the link? If it's really the case, I think it's the first concrete bad sign about the future of SoA. If I remember correctly, someone of the band stated in another interview (an older one) that the band would put a lot of effort in the first 2 years (2018 and 2019) to see if things take off for them. If now they already decided kind of skip 2019 (at least for touring), definately it isn't a good sign IMO.
Actually, I believe they said that everyone was setting aside all of 2018 for SoA - specifically to tour. I don't recall him making the statement that 2019 would be fully dedicated to SoA as well. And given all the other bands/projects that not only MP, but the other guys have going on, I don't think that's unreasonable nor is that a bad sign. Perhaps they'll fall into a pattern of one year being focused on SoA, and the next being focused on other things.
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #4389 on: September 28, 2018, 03:50:47 PM »
sounds cool to me, though the sea within is also trying to tour. They now left out Daniel Gildenlow completely from the bandmember list. XD

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #4390 on: September 28, 2018, 04:38:38 PM »
Does that mean MP can go and do some Flying Colors and Transatlantic? That's totally fine

With the Neal Morse Band releasing a new album (most likely) at the start of 2019 and likely to tour a lot after that, I have to think that that will occupy quite a bit of Portnoy's time in 2019. 

Neal said last week in the Inner Circle email that Flying Colors will get together in December this year with the hopes of releasing their 3rd album sometime in 2019.

Transatlantic is clearly on the backburner for now and I wouldn't count on anything from them any time soon unless they give us something definitive news-wise. Neal didn't even address them in his long Inner Circle email (which covered Morsefest and his plans for the near-future). 

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #4391 on: September 28, 2018, 04:59:14 PM »
If you mean "doomed" to write another really good album, I agree.

Not quite what I mean.
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #4392 on: September 28, 2018, 05:06:36 PM »
I'll probably be buying it because the band puts on a pretty good show, and I would like to see that again (despite the unfortunate fact that doing so is putting money in Derek's pockets).  The covers and orchestra are just a nice bonus.
Have I missed something he's done since his unfortunate statements round the release of the album, or is it just that?

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #4393 on: September 28, 2018, 05:13:22 PM »
Perhaps they'll fall into a pattern of one year being focused on SoA, and the next being focused on other things.

Nothing like setting yourselves up as the new KINGS OF PROG METAL and then taking a year of to "focus on other things." Guess once established the kingdom will be able to survive on its own.
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #4394 on: September 28, 2018, 05:31:30 PM »
I'll probably be buying it because the band puts on a pretty good show, and I would like to see that again (despite the unfortunate fact that doing so is putting money in Derek's pockets).  The covers and orchestra are just a nice bonus.
Have I missed something he's done since his unfortunate statements round the release of the album, or is it just that?

Welcome back, and no, I don't think he's done much more damage since then.  He's been pretty quiet for awhile now with regards to shit talking. 

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #4395 on: September 28, 2018, 05:59:03 PM »
Perhaps they'll fall into a pattern of one year being focused on SoA, and the next being focused on other things.

Nothing like setting yourselves up as the new KINGS OF PROG METAL and then taking a year of to "focus on other things." Guess once established the kingdom will be able to survive on its own.

I'm not sure that's entirely fair, though.  Mike doesn't work on the usual cycle.   Most bands - Kings of their genre or not - are not putting out albums every year. 

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #4396 on: September 28, 2018, 06:12:01 PM »
Perhaps they'll fall into a pattern of one year being focused on SoA, and the next being focused on other things.

Nothing like setting yourselves up as the new KINGS OF PROG METAL and then taking a year of to "focus on other things." Guess once established the kingdom will be able to survive on its own.

I'm not sure that's entirely fair, though.  Mike doesn't work on the usual cycle.   Most bands - Kings of their genre or not - are not putting out albums every year.

Agreed.  This argument would become more valid if there was an extended period of inactivity which based on the little info we have is not going to be the case.

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #4397 on: September 29, 2018, 03:20:26 AM »
Actually, I would love to hear Figaro's Whore arranged for full orchestra and choir. Make it 30 minutes. Throw in some Tallis influence in there as well. Have MP and DS write Gregorian chants with lyrics about sucking on balls and stuff.

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #4398 on: September 29, 2018, 09:29:19 AM »
Looks like no orchestra/choir for the encore. So the only SoA song with all that is Labyrinth (and technically the keyboard diddle, for what that's worth).
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« Reply #4399 on: September 30, 2018, 02:05:34 PM »

Because honestly, I feel like it's just a way to repackage their album and try and sell it again. Oooohhhhh an orchestra! Do they think we are that stupid? And we're going to do covers because we don't have anything else. This is Queensryche territory. I feel sorry for this. I won't behoove any of them from making a living, but I have zero respect for this.

One thing that everyone has seen them has said, even if they weren't impressed with the album was how blown away they were with their live performance. I might entertain a live cd from some sweaty club. At least that's real.



Perhaps.  I have the album. Not blown away by it. It's OK. (Maybe a 4, 5, or 6 if I thought any about it.)

I knew they would be better live, but I wasn't willing to invest the time an effort to get to either of the shows I would have gone to (One on each leg) because I knew it wasn't going to have any memorable lasting impact on me.

At least with this live album, I know I'm going to get a road tested band and I'll (likely) have better versions of these songs which I might enjoy more than I currently do.

I won't preorder this, but I'll probably pick it up eventually like I did the studio album. If they enjoyed this as much as they say they did, it should show up in the recording and that would be a bonus for me.

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #4400 on: September 30, 2018, 02:07:09 PM »
I will definitely give a listen to the live versions of the album tracks.
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« Reply #4401 on: September 30, 2018, 02:14:11 PM »
Wasn't it pretty well attended?  And aren't there a lot of people saying they look forward to buying it?  I'm not sure how that amounts to there being no buzz about it.  Not sure why people have to pretend like this is some objective travesty just because they personally aren't interested.

What's an objective travesty? What's the definition of that?

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« Reply #4402 on: September 30, 2018, 02:14:52 PM »
Wasn't it pretty well attended?  And aren't there a lot of people saying they look forward to buying it?  I'm not sure how that amounts to there being no buzz about it.  Not sure why people have to pretend like this is some objective travesty just because they personally aren't interested. 

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #4403 on: October 05, 2018, 06:27:23 AM »
So the show last night in De Boerderij was filmed, anyone know if this will show up somewhere?

setlist.fm is wrong btw, they also played Hell's Kitchen..

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« Reply #4404 on: October 05, 2018, 06:53:45 AM »
Professionally filmed? If so, cool! It will be maybe a bonus material for the DVD or an official bootleg, no? And it will be good to watch the band in his more natural environment, so to speak.
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #4405 on: October 05, 2018, 06:54:19 AM »
So the show last night in De Boerderij was filmed, anyone know if this will show up somewhere?

setlist.fm is wrong btw, they also played Hell's Kitchen..

They said it was filmed or you saw cameras?  Maybe for a music video or bonus video for their DVD they filmed a couple weeks ago.

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #4406 on: October 05, 2018, 06:59:17 AM »
pretty much all stationary cameras, i counted about 20, and there was one guy in front of the stage with a handicam. Soto did mention it, but couldn't say anything about it really.

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #4407 on: October 05, 2018, 07:38:20 AM »
Didn't Mike mention the filming in a tweet?

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« Reply #4408 on: October 05, 2018, 07:41:15 AM »
Professionally filmed? If so, cool! It will be maybe a bonus material for the DVD or an official bootleg, no? And it will be good to watch the band in his more natural environment, so to speak.

Would definitely get this if released.

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #4409 on: October 05, 2018, 09:14:53 AM »
I hope they don't rush the second album so that we get to see the real potential of this band.

I've already seen the real potential of this band.  The only question is, will they run with it?
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