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How would you rate psycotic Symphony on a scale from 1 to 10?

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28 (12.1%)

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #3990 on: May 09, 2018, 03:32:16 PM »
Well, they've proven they can copy it at least once :neverusethis:
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #3991 on: May 10, 2018, 09:20:50 AM »
So...

Everytime I read "Coming Home", the Alter Bridge song pops into my head.
I just don't understand what they were trying to achieve with any part of the song, either individually or as a whole. You know what? It's the Platypus of Dream Theater songs. That bill doesn't go with that tail, or that strange little furry body, or those webbed feet, and oh god why does it have venomous spurs!? And then you find out it lays eggs too. The difference is that the Platypus is somehow functional despite being a crazy mishmash or leftover animal pieces

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #3992 on: May 10, 2018, 09:25:47 AM »
Stratovarius has a ballad named like that. Grave Digger too. Probably other 48 bands, including song titles such as "Carry on" and "Forever".
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #3993 on: May 10, 2018, 09:28:16 AM »
Stratovarius has a ballad named like that. Grave Digger too. Probably other 48 bands, including song titles such as "Carry on" and "Forever".

It's pretty comical to go through one's collection of metal songs and try to group all the songs that have all those generic titles. Forever, Coming Home, and Carry On are three of the biggest offenders. Also "Silence" or "Silence of (whatever)".
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #3994 on: May 10, 2018, 10:50:45 AM »
There's even a (pretty cool) Falco song named Coming Home  :biggrin:
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #3995 on: May 10, 2018, 10:57:14 AM »
Even JLB has a song Coming Home.  Iron Maiden's Coming Home is pretty solid.

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #3996 on: May 10, 2018, 10:59:39 AM »
I read it as they wanted ten more songs like Coming Home in terms of the reception it gets live, not as literally copying Coming Home ten times.
I think the reason it gets a big reception at their shows is because they save it as their final encore. By that time the crowd is all fired up.  They would have had the same result if they had swapped any other song in that spot..
 Coming Home is a fun song though. 😎
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #3997 on: May 10, 2018, 11:13:50 AM »
Coming Home is the worst song on the album, IMO, but it does come off much better live. And saving it for last, and after ATCWR definitely helps.
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #3998 on: May 10, 2018, 11:15:01 AM »
Coming Home is the worst song on the album, IMO, but it does come off much better live. And saving it for last, and after ATCWR definitely helps.

What? No way is it worse than whatever's whore and the instrumental thing.
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #3999 on: May 10, 2018, 11:28:57 AM »
Even JLB has a song Coming Home.  Iron Maiden's Coming Home is pretty solid.

Wow. My favorite band and my second favorite singer and I thought about Stratovarious before that. Silly me.

James' song is about Dexter, and is better as a standalone song than the entire final season.
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #4000 on: May 10, 2018, 11:29:42 AM »
I FEEL A RANKING COMING ON!!!

1.  Alive - Great song.  My #1 and #2 are close.  Seeing the song live put it over the top.
2.  Labrynth - Usually, I am a "more is more" kind of guy.  I love MOST of this song and I think I probably had it as my #1 for awhile.  But some of the instrumental stuff feels that it meanders just a bit too much to put it ahead of Alive.
3.  God of the Sun - Great opener, both on the album and live.  Lots of cool things going on in this one.
4.  Signs of the Time - I liked this one from the get go, and if anything, I like it more now than when it was first released.
5.  Divine Addiction - I'm not sure why I don't rank this song higher, other than just the simple fact of liking the other songs more.  Nice, tasty organ riffs definitely evoke some great '80s hard rock moments.
6.  Coming Home - Just a solid, enjoyable song. 
7.  Lost in Oblivion - This song has a lot going for it, but doesn't feel cohesive to me.  Not a bad song, but not one I usually want to hear either.
8.  Figaro's Whore - Decent little keyboard wanky transition piece that doesn't overstay its welcome.
9.  Opus Maximus - An instrumental generally has to be REALLY good to get my attention.  This one does not fall in that category.  Some cool parts.  But I often just shut off the disk when it starts. 

So, 6 songs I actively like, 2 that I don't mind, and 1 that I don't care for at all.  That's not a bad ratio.  If this were the '80s, that would be a VERY solid album.
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #4001 on: May 10, 2018, 11:48:27 AM »
Stratovarius has a ballad named like that. Grave Digger too. Probably other 48 bands, including song titles such as "Carry on" and "Forever".

It's pretty comical to go through one's collection of metal songs and try to group all the songs that have all those generic titles. Forever, Coming Home, and Carry On are three of the biggest offenders. Also "Silence" or "Silence of (whatever)".

My buddy Eric and I used to play a lot of softball, and we were in bands for probably 20 years.  There were these two other guys who were in a band together and they were sort of our nemeses.   One of the guys and Eric were like two alpha males, always in competition.  The other guy married my high school girlfriend; I later realized I made a mistake, so I hated him and he always knew I was "the one that got away" and so he hated me.  Anyway, one weekend Eric and I played them in a softball game tournament and we won.  We're drinking beer after and those two come up and start in with the excuses "we would  have won but we're hung over from our album release party, blah blah blah."   So they hand us this CD.  Eric looks at me and says "cover band?" and they get all mad, because they were so proud they wrote all the songs.  It sounded like bad Night Ranger and all the titles were like "In Your Eyes" and "Need Your Love" and "Round and Round" and "Feels Like Forever" and "I Believe In You"  (All real titled from that band, by the way).    So clichéd its an insult to real clichés. 

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #4002 on: May 10, 2018, 12:06:38 PM »
My ranking:

God Tier (Right up there with some of DT's best)
1. God of the Sun
2. Opus Maximus
3. Labyrinth

Very Good Tier
4. Lost in Oblivion
5. Divine Addiction
6. Signs of the Time 

Okay Tier
7. Alive
8. Coming Home 
9. Figaro's Whore

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #4003 on: May 10, 2018, 12:14:29 PM »
God of the Sun
Alive
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Opus Maximus
Signs of the Time
Labyrinth
Coming Home
Lost in Oblivion
Divine Addiction
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #4004 on: May 10, 2018, 12:44:11 PM »
God of the Sun first and foremost, and then Labyrinth if you cut a good part of the solo section
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Alive, Divine Addiction, Signs of the Time
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Lost in Oblivion, Coming Home
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The two instrumentals

But I really like them all, save for the instrumentals, especially if you make some little cuts here and there.
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #4005 on: May 10, 2018, 01:04:37 PM »
It's hard for me to rank, because my favorite song on the album changes sometimes from day to day. GOTS and Alive seem to stay pretty consistent in my top two. There is not a weak song on this record, I really like listening to the whole thing each time.
 As far as Opus Maximus, I absolutely love it!  Great instrumental that takes me on a journey, and the transition to the soaring melodic part towards the end is awesome live!
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #4006 on: May 10, 2018, 02:02:14 PM »
I never got the hate for Figaro's Whore. I like Sherinian, and it's simply him doing his thing.
Not a big Alive fan. Portnoy's callback vocals are becoming tiresome. It's neat at first, but the fun wears off quickly.
God of the Sun is a great song, despite being a ripoff of both Home and Scarface. The highlight, I think.
I really dig Divine Addiction, as it's essentially just an old Kansas song. PoNR era, I'd say.
Opus is good at times and not at others. Pretty varied.

The rest of the album is all pretty samey for me. Generic stuff, honestly.
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #4007 on: May 10, 2018, 02:22:29 PM »
I don't see GOTS being a Home rip-off. Perhaps the middle eastern feel in some parts, but that is pretty common in the world of metal..
Each of those songs are two different beasts imo, GOTS being the better song..
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #4008 on: May 10, 2018, 06:45:26 PM »

Decent Tier
1. Labyrinth
2. Coming Home
3. Opus Maximus

Mediocre Tier
4. Signs Of The Time
5. God Of The Sun
6. Divine Addiction

Awful Tier
7. Alive
8. Figaro's Whore
9. Lost In Oblivion (would be undoubtedly the worst DT song if it was one)
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #4009 on: May 10, 2018, 07:26:19 PM »
Top Tier (In no order)"
God of the Sun, Labyrinth, Divine Addiction - Be honest.  This one was left over from DP's Perfect Strangers and are just letting the band use it.  It's that good. 

Middle Tier:
Alive - Honestly it would be lower tier but it translates really well live. 

Bottom Tier:
Everything else.  Ya know, Figaro's Whore would have been fine if it wouldn't have had a stupid name and would have just been saved for the live show.  Jon Lord used to have cool intros before songs like You Fool No One.  It could have been along the same lines but he had to pretend like it was the keyboard version of Eruption.  Lame. 

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #4010 on: May 10, 2018, 10:22:53 PM »

I really dig Divine Addiction, as it's essentially just an old Kansas song. PoNR era, I'd say.

Huh, that's a good observation.   

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #4011 on: May 12, 2018, 09:46:38 AM »
so i just read that they're going back into the studio in November, and that they signed for a 3 disc contract with Sony, so at least we'll hear some more music from these guys in the future :-)

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« Reply #4012 on: May 12, 2018, 11:27:32 AM »
so i just read that they're going back into the studio in November, and that they signed for a 3 disc contract with Sony, so at least we'll hear some more music from these guys in the future :-)
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #4013 on: May 12, 2018, 01:37:01 PM »
3-disc contract?  I had no idea that labels still did that.  Definitely a good thing. :tup

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« Reply #4014 on: May 12, 2018, 04:51:21 PM »
3-disc contract?  I had no idea that labels still did that.  Definitely a good thing. :tup

triple album confirmed?  :justjen
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #4015 on: May 12, 2018, 05:02:12 PM »
3-disc contract?  I had no idea that labels still did that.  Definitely a good thing. :tup

triple album confirmed?  :justjen

Yeah but disc 2 is a covers album and disc 3 they cover their first album.

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #4016 on: May 12, 2018, 05:26:20 PM »
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #4017 on: May 12, 2018, 07:41:16 PM »
3-disc contract?  I had no idea that labels still did that.  Definitely a good thing. :tup

triple album confirmed?  :justjen

Yeah but disc 2 is a covers album and disc 3 they cover their first album.

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #4018 on: May 13, 2018, 04:21:22 AM »
Disc 2 will be the live album to be recorded later in the year in Bulgaria.

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« Reply #4019 on: May 13, 2018, 04:23:52 AM »
3-disc contract?  I had no idea that labels still did that.  Definitely a good thing. :tup

triple album confirmed?  :justjen

Yeah but disc 2 is a covers album and disc 3 they cover their first album.

I just can't stop laughing at this. :rollin
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #4020 on: May 13, 2018, 11:57:32 AM »
Disc 2 will be the live album to be recorded later in the year in Bulgaria.

And isn't this already going to be a double disc?  The full album and then a disc of covers?  That would leave one more studio disc for the new album in the deal maybe?

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #4021 on: May 13, 2018, 12:27:40 PM »
3-disc contract?  I had no idea that labels still did that.  Definitely a good thing. :tup

triple album confirmed?  :justjen

Is this not just a 3 album contract? Surely a band with only one album under their belt is not doing a triple-album.

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #4022 on: May 13, 2018, 12:31:19 PM »
A triple album would be soooo prog though  :lol
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #4023 on: May 13, 2018, 12:49:08 PM »
If their next album tops Psychotic Symphony, I think SOA will gain popularity.  They got some of the best musicians in the business, and certainly have the potential to put out some great music in the future.
Psychotic Symphony is a very strong start imo..  :hat
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #4024 on: May 13, 2018, 01:23:04 PM »
If their next album tops Psychotic Symphony, I think SOA will gain popularity.  They got some of the best musicians in the business, and certainly have the potential to put out some great music in the future.
Psychotic Symphony is a very strong start imo..  :hat

It's very strong only as a start though, as sort of a "here's what we can do" sort of thing. PS is not something I find myself wanting to come back to, despite liking it. Some good foundations there, but just needs a little more depth.