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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #2590 on: November 29, 2017, 10:59:38 PM »
I was hoping for an Arcada show. Not fond of having to go to Joliet. Either way, I'm seeing Machine Head only a few days later in Chicago. Not sure I can pull 2 shows within a few days. At this point, the only way I would see myself going is if they have the Galactic Cowboys open. Otherwise, I might have to wait and see if they come around again.

I guess that I can also add that my tickets for Machine Head are also $25. They are playing an Evening With show as well.

I'd love to see SOA at that price point but I'm getting a little old for 2 shows like that in a week.
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #2591 on: November 30, 2017, 06:08:55 AM »
in an interview posted a week ago, Mike made a comment about feeling the grind and wanting to retire.  The interviewer didn't follow up so who knows, maybe Mike made an offhanded comment and wasn't really serious.  Maybe he was thinking, "In a few years..." or maybe he really is wrapping it up. 

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I'm just speculating here, but I think Mike is in that "second tier celebrity sweet spot" where he can afford to live luxuriously, but couldn't afford to retire. He's probably the most well-off in the extended DT family though, that's why he could afford the proposed hiatus, while the others not so much.


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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #2592 on: November 30, 2017, 06:25:07 AM »
Well, the day he decides he doesn't want to be an active musician anymore, couldn't he give drum lessons or produce records? for better or worse he did sit at the producer's desk with JP, he knows the stuff, he could do it for other bands, or he could even get involved more in the business side of organizing concerts, his talent to find out proper bands to assemble a bill shouldn't go to waste when he will eventually stop touring.
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #2593 on: November 30, 2017, 08:12:24 AM »
I've long said that I can't believe he hasn't had offers to be "Abe Laboriel, Jr.", meaning, be the guy on call for a big name touring act.   Roger Waters.   Billy Joel (well, he has Chuck Burgi now).   Even a Taytay Swizzle.   Something like that. 

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #2594 on: November 30, 2017, 08:17:47 AM »
I think he likes being the centre of attention too much to drum for a big act full time

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #2595 on: November 30, 2017, 08:34:36 AM »
I don't even think it's bad when bands play smaller venues, for those in So Cal there is place called The Coach House in San Juan Capistrano where I saw Living Colour in the past  and Tate's most recent acoustic tour.  The thing I find amusing, well at least pertaining to DS and MP, not the other guys is that after all that bravado and crap talking they are playing these super small venues. Even though MP defends him I can't help but think he is a bit ticked at him losing sales even if it was just 20 people.
Its been said many different ways here but if they were humble and gracious, I would be inclined to buy the album and see them.

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #2596 on: November 30, 2017, 08:47:03 AM »
I've long said that I can't believe he hasn't had offers to be "Abe Laboriel, Jr.", meaning, be the guy on call for a big name touring act.   Roger Waters.   Billy Joel (well, he has Chuck Burgi now).   Even a Taytay Swizzle.   Something like that.

He doesn't have the skillset for those gigs. Seriously. They require monster groove monkeys. Guys that can make the most simplistic patterns SING (as well as technical pieces). That is not MP.

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #2597 on: November 30, 2017, 08:54:18 AM »
I don't think T-Swift would take kindly to MP showboating and spitting everywhere :P
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #2598 on: November 30, 2017, 10:11:33 AM »
I don't think T-Swift would take kindly to MP showboating and spitting everywhere :P

Yes or the added growl singing

You Belong With Me
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You're on the phone with your girlfriend
GIRLFRIEND!
She's upset
SHE IS UPSET!
She's going off about something that you said
SAIIIDDD


Or trying to harmonize every line with her.

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #2599 on: November 30, 2017, 10:12:31 AM »
I don't think T-Swift would take kindly to MP showboating and spitting everywhere :P

Yes or the added growl singing

You Belong With Me
Taylor Swift

You're on the phone with your girlfriend
GIRLFRIEND!
She's upset
SHE IS UPSET!
She's going off about something that you said
SAIIIDDD


Or trying to harmonize every line with her.


COngrats. I just spit my soda.
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #2600 on: November 30, 2017, 10:14:23 AM »
I don't think T-Swift would take kindly to MP showboating and spitting everywhere :P

Yes or the added growl singing

You Belong With Me
Taylor Swift

You're on the phone with your girlfriend
GIRLFRIEND!
She's upset
SHE IS UPSET!
She's going off about something that you said
SAIIIDDD


Or trying to harmonize every line with her.

 :rollin
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #2601 on: November 30, 2017, 10:33:53 AM »
As hilarious as that is (bravo, Bill) are those actually Taylor Swift lyrics?!?

The internet tells me they are. Good God.
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #2602 on: November 30, 2017, 10:35:10 AM »
MP: Well Taylor, I've got good news and bad news.
TS: ....
MP: I just quit Sons of Apollo but that means I can be with you guys!
TS: Uh, that's not necessarily what we agreed on.
MP: ...but I already out out my press release.



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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #2603 on: November 30, 2017, 10:39:10 AM »
As hilarious as that is (bravo, Bill) are those actually Taylor Swift lyrics?!?

The internet tells me they are. Good God.

I don't want to turn this into a Taylor Swift thread but c'mon, they're pop lyrics to a pop song written by a girl about boys. Ain't nothing terribly offensive about them other than how bland they are.
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #2604 on: November 30, 2017, 11:09:01 AM »
True.  Also, I can't help but think that those songs might actually be improved with some MP growly vocals.

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #2605 on: November 30, 2017, 11:21:41 AM »
MP: Well Taylor, I've got good news and bad news.
TS: ....
MP: I just quit Sons of Apollo but that means I can be with you guys!
TS: Uh, that's not necessarily what we agreed on.
MP: ...but I already out out my press release.

 :lol

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #2606 on: November 30, 2017, 11:32:15 AM »
As hilarious as that is (bravo, Bill) are those actually Taylor Swift lyrics?!?

The internet tells me they are. Good God.

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #2607 on: November 30, 2017, 11:40:38 AM »
As hilarious as that is (bravo, Bill) are those actually Taylor Swift lyrics?!?

The internet tells me they are. Good God.

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I mean, just saying...

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #2608 on: November 30, 2017, 11:44:07 AM »
Gotta say, that with MP steering things, and with his history, I'm really surprised that Philly and/or NYC aren't on that first run of dates. I know they will come, but it's just weird not seeing them on the initial jaunt.
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #2609 on: November 30, 2017, 12:51:00 PM »
As hilarious as that is (bravo, Bill) are those actually Taylor Swift lyrics?!?

The internet tells me they are. Good God.

Yes, I had to google it. :)

Really


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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #2610 on: November 30, 2017, 12:51:25 PM »
MP: Well Taylor, I've got good news and bad news.
TS: ....
MP: I just quit Sons of Apollo but that means I can be with you guys!
TS: Uh, that's not necessarily what we agreed on.
MP: ...but I already out out my press release.

 :rollin

Perfect

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #2611 on: November 30, 2017, 01:47:21 PM »
As hilarious as that is (bravo, Bill) are those actually Taylor Swift lyrics?!?

The internet tells me they are. Good God.

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I mean, just saying...

Indeed. I had to think about that for a minute. My first thought was that you were quoting from a 1990s Super Nintendo RPG.
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #2612 on: November 30, 2017, 02:04:26 PM »
As hilarious as that is (bravo, Bill) are those actually Taylor Swift lyrics?!?

The internet tells me they are. Good God.

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I mean, just saying...

Indeed. I had to think about that for a minute. My first thought was that you were quoting from a 1990s Super Nintendo RPG.

Not that TA doesn't have cheesy lyrics, it certainly does, but it's not a good comparison between a pop song and a rock opera lyrics between different characters.

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #2613 on: November 30, 2017, 02:14:35 PM »
As hilarious as that is (bravo, Bill) are those actually Taylor Swift lyrics?!?

The internet tells me they are. Good God.

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I mean, just saying...

Indeed. I had to think about that for a minute. My first thought was that you were quoting from a 1990s Super Nintendo RPG.

Not that TA doesn't have cheesy lyrics, it certainly does, but it's not a good comparison between a pop song and a rock opera lyrics between different characters.
I just don't understand what they were trying to achieve with any part of the song, either individually or as a whole. You know what? It's the Platypus of Dream Theater songs. That bill doesn't go with that tail, or that strange little furry body, or those webbed feet, and oh god why does it have venomous spurs!? And then you find out it lays eggs too. The difference is that the Platypus is somehow functional despite being a crazy mishmash or leftover animal pieces

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #2614 on: November 30, 2017, 03:17:04 PM »
As hilarious as that is (bravo, Bill) are those actually Taylor Swift lyrics?!?

The internet tells me they are. Good God.

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Where can I find this man?
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I mean, just saying...

Indeed. I had to think about that for a minute. My first thought was that you were quoting from a 1990s Super Nintendo RPG.

That's funny. Now I am imagining an 8 bit Nomac.

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #2615 on: November 30, 2017, 03:42:44 PM »
The band won some fan poll awards at the Prog Report. Much deserved!!

Okay back to the hating.......

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #2616 on: November 30, 2017, 04:11:45 PM »
Wow, some of the venues are teensy. This is the venue in Michigan:

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.3223452,-85.2085474,3a,75y,92.95h,82.28t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s9ZhXfrmCJBggLDEG5I-yqA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Will MP's kit fit in there? Derek's ego?

 :rollin

Wow, this is outrageous! Look around with Google maps...
"We're right in between the vacant lot with all the dumpsters and the abandoned gas station, you can't miss it!"

In contrast, here's where DT's next gig is:
https://www.jambase.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/bass-concert-hall-bass-concert-hall-bass-concert-hall_austin_05-01-15_21_5542c898be5e2.jpg

Crazy difference, eh?
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #2617 on: November 30, 2017, 05:41:50 PM »
Wow, some of the venues are teensy. This is the venue in Michigan:

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.3223452,-85.2085474,3a,75y,92.95h,82.28t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s9ZhXfrmCJBggLDEG5I-yqA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Will MP's kit fit in there? Derek's ego?

 :rollin

Wow, this is outrageous! Look around with Google maps...
"We're right in between the vacant lot with all the dumpsters and the abandon gas station, you can't miss it!"

In contrast, here's where DT's next gig is:
https://www.jambase.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/bass-concert-hall-bass-concert-hall-bass-concert-hall_austin_05-01-15_21_5542c898be5e2.jpg

Crazy difference, eh?

Huge difference, but lets not pretend that MP isn't a BIG reason why DT are playing those venues.

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #2618 on: November 30, 2017, 05:43:10 PM »
Wow, some of the venues are teensy. This is the venue in Michigan:

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.3223452,-85.2085474,3a,75y,92.95h,82.28t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s9ZhXfrmCJBggLDEG5I-yqA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Will MP's kit fit in there? Derek's ego?

 :rollin

Wow, this is outrageous! Look around with Google maps...
"We're right in between the vacant lot with all the dumpsters and the abandon gas station, you can't miss it!"

In contrast, here's where DT's next gig is:
https://www.jambase.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/bass-concert-hall-bass-concert-hall-bass-concert-hall_austin_05-01-15_21_5542c898be5e2.jpg

Crazy difference, eh?

Huge difference, but lets not pretend that MP isn't a BIG reason why DT are playing those venues.

Yes, that is true.

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #2619 on: November 30, 2017, 05:45:24 PM »


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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #2620 on: November 30, 2017, 06:13:29 PM »
Whoever made that picture has no clue what the point of pop music is.
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #2621 on: November 30, 2017, 06:16:38 PM »
Wow, some of the venues are teensy. This is the venue in Michigan:

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.3223452,-85.2085474,3a,75y,92.95h,82.28t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s9ZhXfrmCJBggLDEG5I-yqA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Will MP's kit fit in there? Derek's ego?

 :rollin

Wow, this is outrageous! Look around with Google maps...
"We're right in between the vacant lot with all the dumpsters and the abandon gas station, you can't miss it!"

In contrast, here's where DT's next gig is:
https://www.jambase.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/bass-concert-hall-bass-concert-hall-bass-concert-hall_austin_05-01-15_21_5542c898be5e2.jpg

Crazy difference, eh?

Huge difference, but lets not pretend that MP isn't a BIG reason why DT are playing those venues.

Yes, he definitely was a big part of building and promoting the band, I don't think anyone here disputes that.

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #2622 on: November 30, 2017, 06:28:57 PM »
Well, MP just confirmed on Twitter that he offered the Galactic Cowboys the opening slot and they had to decline due to scheduling. Looks like I will be skipping this run.

He said that he will offer them a slot again later for a different leg. Oh well.
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #2623 on: November 30, 2017, 06:53:07 PM »
  • Shattered Fortress shows - decent venues & mostly sold out from what I gather. Were fans there just to see MP & Haken or to hear those DT songs?

    Sons Of Apollo shows - not so great venues that may sell out (due to smaller size). Are people going just to see MP & the band or to hear the SOA songs?

This tells us that it's more about the music than the artist. I get that the Shattered Fortress also brought the element of nostalgia to the mix but in my opinion, I like the 12 step suite much more than the SOA release.

UPDATE: The majority of votes on the poll are in the 5-7 out of 10 range with 7 garnering the most votes.

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #2624 on: November 30, 2017, 08:54:59 PM »
At this point if SoA was coming I'd go to see Ron mainly and MP second.

I feel the same towards Steven Wilson, his music is good but unless he is touring with PT or with Guthrie I'll pass on seeing him.