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How would you rate psycotic Symphony on a scale from 1 to 10?

10 (highest)
8 (3.4%)
9
13 (5.6%)
8
23 (9.9%)
7
43 (18.5%)
6
33 (14.2%)
5
32 (13.8%)
4
24 (10.3%)
3
14 (6%)
2
7 (3%)
1 (lowest)
7 (3%)
0. Their online behaviour ruined it (won't listen)
28 (12.1%)

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #1190 on: October 21, 2017, 12:59:22 AM »
6/10
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Verdict on: Sons of Apollo - Psycotic Symphony
« Reply #1191 on: October 21, 2017, 01:15:00 AM »
As I said in the Sons of Apollo thread I think it would be interresring to see how DTF ranks this album.

Everyone is allowed one vote but you can change it if your view of the album changes.

So vote away.....

And feel free to give your impressions too.

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #1192 on: October 21, 2017, 01:16:30 AM »

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Re: Verdict on: Sons of Apollo - Psycotic Symphony
« Reply #1193 on: October 21, 2017, 01:38:15 AM »
gave it one spin. it's very meh. not interested in relistening so i'm giving the laziest possible score of 5

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Re: Verdict on: Sons of Apollo - Psycotic Symphony
« Reply #1194 on: October 21, 2017, 01:44:08 AM »
Good but a lot of wasted potential. 7/10.
Must've been Kwyji sending all the wrong songs.   ;D

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #1195 on: October 21, 2017, 01:48:23 AM »
Tell me - how those Guys could put the same vocal melody in Coming Home and Alive??? If it is done in purpose, what is the point? If not by purpose but accidentaly...?If so, that is a big fail... anyway I will give this album a chance one more time, I like a few songs from it so I will try to know them better

All those vocal melodies are thrown together quickly, very safe, predictable and generic like a hundred other rock songs. And when you compose like that it can happen that you repeat yourself. I don't think it's done on purpose but I wonder why they didn't hear it and therefore change it.
Must've been Kwyji sending all the wrong songs.   ;D

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #1196 on: October 21, 2017, 01:57:23 AM »
Tell me - how those Guys could put the same vocal melody in Coming Home and Alive??? If it is done in purpose, what is the point? If not by purpose but accidentaly...?If so, that is a big fail... anyway I will give this album a chance one more time, I like a few songs from it so I will try to know them better

All those vocal melodies are thrown together quickly, very safe, predictable and generic like a hundred other rock songs. And when you compose like that it can happen that you repeat yourself. I don't think it's done on purpose but I wonder why they didn't hear it and therefore change it.

With just one week in the studio they had to rush through it and probably did not notice.

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Re: Verdict on: Sons of Apollo - Psycotic Symphony
« Reply #1197 on: October 21, 2017, 02:28:52 AM »
5/10

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Re: Verdict on: Sons of Apollo - Psycotic Symphony
« Reply #1198 on: October 21, 2017, 02:31:48 AM »
2 votes for 1/10? I don’t care for the album, but that’s just ridiculous.

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #1199 on: October 21, 2017, 02:38:36 AM »
As often stated this approach of writing in the studio and doing it in a short amount of time is really hurting these projects imo. Give the music time to develop, demo it, argue over it, add details, change melodies, chords, structures until you find nothing to improve, then go into the studio and record it.

It's good when you can come up with decent music on the spot but sometimes you gotta go the extra mile to make it special.
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Re: Verdict on: Sons of Apollo - Psycotic Symphony
« Reply #1200 on: October 21, 2017, 02:40:34 AM »
4/10

Pretty disappointed honestly..

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Re: Verdict on: Sons of Apollo - Psycotic Symphony
« Reply #1201 on: October 21, 2017, 02:42:01 AM »
2 votes for 1/10? I don’t care for the album, but that’s just ridiculous.

Yeah I would not put it that low. I mean it's not great but it's still better than a lot of music around.
I gave it a 6 myself.
Not sure what I would put at 1 actually.... most music (even albums from artist that I don't like) have some redeeming qualities

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Re: Verdict on: Sons of Apollo - Psycotic Symphony
« Reply #1202 on: October 21, 2017, 02:44:12 AM »
2 votes for 1/10? I don’t care for the album, but that’s just ridiculous.
Not sure what I would put at 1 actually.... most music (even albums from artist that I don't like) have some redeeming qualities

Yeah very few albums deserve 1/10. And this isn’t one of them.

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Re: Verdict on: Sons of Apollo - Psycotic Symphony
« Reply #1203 on: October 21, 2017, 02:46:21 AM »
6/10
love God, Labyrinth and Lost.
won't be buying, sorry.
EDIT: haven't rated anything from DT after 6DOIT higher than this neither though  :(
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Re: Verdict on: Sons of Apollo - Psycotic Symphony
« Reply #1204 on: October 21, 2017, 02:47:10 AM »
9/10 for me. And I honestly hope those guys get the chance to record a second album and really prioritize this band.

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Re: Verdict on: Sons of Apollo - Psycotic Symphony
« Reply #1205 on: October 21, 2017, 02:50:55 AM »
I'm leaning towards 5 at the moment, but I might listen to it again before I cast my vote.

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #1206 on: October 21, 2017, 02:53:51 AM »
It's good when you can come up with decent music on the spot but sometimes you gotta go the extra mile to make it special.

Sometimes I feel that Liquid Tension Experiment was a double edged sword. It had the rightfully deserved critical acclaim, and allowed Portnoy and Petrucci to bring Jordan in DT, but it also proved that they could write awesome music in a short amount of time... and that "could" somehow translated in "should" and that was the approach for many of their following projects, especially MP's.

I've heard the album by now, I'd agree that God of the Sun is a great track - and as someone pointed out, it was the one that Derek spent more time working on. It can't be coincidence.
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Re: Verdict on: Sons of Apollo - Psycotic Symphony
« Reply #1207 on: October 21, 2017, 03:03:30 AM »
I'm leaning towards 5 at the moment, but I might listen to it again before I cast my vote.

You should be able to change your vote at any time...

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Re: Verdict on: Sons of Apollo - Psycotic Symphony
« Reply #1208 on: October 21, 2017, 03:38:41 AM »
I'm on my second listen, it's gonna take time to rate the album. But I'm looking forward to listening to it next week.

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #1209 on: October 21, 2017, 03:58:48 AM »
But LTE was a jam band from the beginning, at least for me, and it sounded like it. It was good for what it was, but from DT, DT related bands and prog bands in general I mostly expect something more worked out and defined.

Jazz, blues and the like, music with big improvisational percentage can be created almost on the spot, it's mostly inherent in the musical style and I like a lot of it. Prog on the other hand always fascinated me because it was composed, thought and worked out, defined and not (mostly) just a band jamming away.

MP obviously thinks different about it and that's okay, but I don't have to like that approach.
Must've been Kwyji sending all the wrong songs.   ;D

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Re: Verdict on: Sons of Apollo - Psycotic Symphony
« Reply #1210 on: October 21, 2017, 04:13:46 AM »
A 1/10 rating for me would mean that not only the record leaves me cold but that it actually causes me pain when listening to it, not even St. Anger is that bad.
Must've been Kwyji sending all the wrong songs.   ;D

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #1211 on: October 21, 2017, 05:13:08 AM »
Just heard the first two tracks from the album. It's nothing new, but I'd be lying if I didn't enjoy some balls to the wall prog metal once in a while. Enjoyable stuff.
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #1212 on: October 21, 2017, 06:10:28 AM »
Started to listen to the album again to see if I'd like it any better but half way through the first song I realised life is too short for this passionless, copy-paste landfill. Just... Really bad, and the worst crime of all: boring

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #1213 on: October 21, 2017, 06:17:22 AM »
Have you voted in

https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=51084.0

Rate the album from 1 to 10....

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Re: Verdict on: Sons of Apollo - Psycotic Symphony
« Reply #1214 on: October 21, 2017, 06:24:07 AM »
2/10, which is kind of worse than 1/10. I can get a kick out of something that's so bad it's good, but this album is just so fucking boring. If it was Lulu bad it might be kind of interesting but it just kind of exists

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Re: Verdict on: Sons of Apollo - Psycotic Symphony
« Reply #1215 on: October 21, 2017, 06:37:51 AM »
I've only heard it twice and I wasn't really paying attention during that second time. My initial score would be 6.5 out of 10 but I need to listen to the album more.  So...I haven't voted yet.
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #1216 on: October 21, 2017, 06:54:36 AM »
I forgot to mention this, but in that middle section of God of the Sun, when it stops and the keys come in, that is pretty much the same melody as what plays at the end of Scarface.  :lol :lol

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #1217 on: October 21, 2017, 07:03:03 AM »
Hey at least they’re throwing some different promotional material out there.
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Re: Verdict on: Sons of Apollo - Psycotic Symphony
« Reply #1218 on: October 21, 2017, 07:03:45 AM »
A 1/10 rating for me would mean that not only the record leaves me cold but that it actually causes me pain when listening to it, not even St. Anger is that bad.

Even though I've only heard four of the songs so far, I can't see it being a 1/10.

1/10 is saved for the truly awful, like Queensryche albums from the 00s and Kiss records.

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Re: Verdict on: Sons of Apollo - Psycotic Symphony
« Reply #1219 on: October 21, 2017, 07:05:29 AM »
Yeah, everything below 5/10 looks ridiculously harsh.

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #1220 on: October 21, 2017, 07:08:12 AM »
I forgot to mention this, but in that middle section of God of the Sun, when it stops and the keys come in, that is pretty much the same melody as what plays at the end of Scarface.  :lol :lol

It made me think of Funeral for a Friend by Elton John but Scarface is a better call

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Re: Verdict on: Sons of Apollo - Psycotic Symphony
« Reply #1221 on: October 21, 2017, 07:09:00 AM »
5/10, it really shines in spots but is largely forgettable.

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Re: Verdict on: Sons of Apollo - Psycotic Symphony
« Reply #1222 on: October 21, 2017, 07:11:23 AM »
7/10.

Good musicianship, a lot of good ideas, but it sounds just like it was done: a buch of guys got together and wrote/recorded an album in a week. they could do a lot better if they've worked the songs a little more, IMHO.

But it's ok, a fun record, and nothing more. Very well played and produced.

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Re: Verdict on: Sons of Apollo - Psycotic Symphony
« Reply #1223 on: October 21, 2017, 07:12:43 AM »
Personally I am as baffled by 10/10 as by 1/10.

A perfect score would mean that it is a masterpiece. A flawless album.... and I fail to se how anyone can think of this as a masterpiece. I'm happy for those who like it though.

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #1224 on: October 21, 2017, 07:12:48 AM »
Lost in Oblivion, which is probably the best song of the four I have heard this far (not saying a whole lot), also features that keyboard intro that sounds like the horn they use in The Shawshank Redemption when they realize Andy is missing. I guess movies were the inspiration corner on this. :lol :lol