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« Reply #70 on: January 14, 2021, 06:55:30 AM »
Holy bump Bat(e)man!

Finished season 1. Very nice show and I'm confident it will turn out to be one of the best dramas on Netflix!

Spoilers follow..... d'uh.



I started watching it trusting the general perception that this show had a lot of fans, and the very basic premise; I must say I consider myself quite good at geography but I cannot know EVERYTHING in the world, "Ozark" gave me the idea of a made-up Middle East region or something  :lol

Turns out it's in Missouri and by photos I assume it's very nice to spend a holiday there, in the summer... but the blue-ish palette of the show makes it look eerie and claustrophobic, it really highlights the sense of dangers the Byrdes live in.

Jason Bateman is very good in this, even though at certain quieter moments Michael Bluth bleeds in.

The Langmores were interesting, and Ruth is obviously the MVP there, very curious to see her evolution.

I can't stand the Snells and the trope of the villain having the eerie long monologue, geez, shut up, you redn.... no, wait, I take it back! I don't want to end up like Del  ;D

Seriously, what the hell was that? completely shocking moment! totally didn't see it coming (and neither he or his bodyguards for that matter), this will change everything for season 2.
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« Reply #71 on: January 14, 2021, 11:17:48 AM »
Wife was out on this after the baby episode. It took us nearly a year but we came back to it and finished Season 2 after binging a couple of episodes every night.

For those that loved season 1, wait until you see Season 2!  :hat

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« Reply #72 on: January 14, 2021, 11:29:10 AM »
It's an excellent show that only gets better—by far my favorite Netflix original.

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« Reply #73 on: January 14, 2021, 11:54:14 AM »
You basically answered a question I wanted to ask but forgot - I mean, I'm in, I will watch it anyway, but I was curious about what was the consensus about the following seasons... if Season 2 is even better, I look forward to it!  :hat
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« Reply #74 on: January 14, 2021, 01:43:02 PM »
Like mentioned each season gets better than the previous one. IMO season 1 is just ok. Even though I liked it, I didn't love it. But season 2 was amazing and then season 3 knocked it out of the park and was flat out fantastic. The acting in season 3 by several actors was top notch. I feel like they didn't properly utilize Laura Linney in the 1st season, she's excellent in the subsequent two.

It's going to end with the next season and am very hopeful they stick the landing.
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« Reply #75 on: January 14, 2021, 04:17:37 PM »
You basically answered a question I wanted to ask but forgot - I mean, I'm in, I will watch it anyway, but I was curious about what was the consensus about the following seasons... if Season 2 is even better, I look forward to it!  :hat

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« Reply #76 on: February 12, 2021, 04:25:41 AM »
Aaaaand I've seen season 2! OBVIOUSLY SPOILERS FOLLOW, D'UH.




You guys weren't lauding it invain, it was amazing! it started fairly in line with Season 1, but midway through the pace picked up and reached levels of intensity never seen since Breaking Bad! (of which Ozark manages to be a similar show, without copying it... it's in the same category but it's not a BB moved to Missouri, for sure).

So many amazing moments:

- The Snells dynamic... you start out with Jacob being the bad guy, with all his convoluted speeches, and then it turns out (not that it wasn't hard to understand given the season 1 finale) that the real batshit crazy one is the wife!!! I've seen her described on Reddit as "Redneck Cersei" and now that's all I think about  ;D what a completely loose cannon... "what do you do when the bride that took your breath away now makes you hold your breath in terror?".... AMAZING LINE.

- Poor Ruth, that girl has to go through so much shit. The waterboarding from the cartel, the daddy issues.... when she screwed up a robbery and started bawling incontrollabily in the car "please Daddy please I'm not a fuckup", I just wanted to reach through the screen and hug her forever. Amazing character.

- Mason.... we have a good guy whose life has been RUINED by the Byrdes  and the Snells, and the show made me root against him! granted, he was a stubborn self rightous guy high on religion, but come on, his life was literally ruined, and yet when he kidnapped Wendy all I could think about and that he was better off dead. What a tragic character.

- Speaking of Wendy.... wow! she started out as the reluctlant wife having to go along with the plan, we feared for another Skyler but no, SHE's the one who broke bad. SHE's the "one who knocks"... or that puts an hit on a man now that she's in the good graces of the cartel / the lawyer.

Knowing there was a third season it was more than obvious that they would not escape to Australia, I was continously expecting in the season finale a major unespexted drama to make up a cliffhanger but no, that's why they don't escape - because Wendy WANTS TO STAY and knows she can order hits on people. Wow. The contrast of her evolution and Marty's dead eye stare in the interview after they killed Mason is impressive.

The show is damn good, and some shorcuts can be forgiven (Petty is dead, how convenient.... and why the hell they made the anbush on the Snells if the result of a rain of bullets is ONE MAN hit in the shoulder? come on, that was cheap). I will savor the emotions of season 2 and in a couple of weeks or so (I like to alternate between shows) I will begin season 3  :hat
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« Reply #77 on: March 17, 2021, 10:11:38 AM »
Aaaaaand I finished Season 3!!! mandatory but what logic would dictate as a useless SPOILER WARNING!




Loved it just as season 2 if not more! man, this show is really Breaking Bad's successor if not directly (that is obviously Better Call Saul) at least when it comes to high tension in a family involved with crime.

If you think hard enough about it, there were many plot conveniencies, like at the beginning with all the stuff with the other casino (the wife dies and that's it? Wendy sits in their casino with a shit-eating grin telling them they're committing a crime and no one cares?), but overall every episode was captivating and they didn't waste time - at episode 4 Marty was already captured by Navarro and listening to heavy metal in his jail, whoah!

And coming back to Wendy, she went off the deep end, she really WalterWhite'd up and her ambition made her reckless, with Marty always being the voice of reason. If everybody listened to Marty, they would all be safe - and we wouldn't have a show obviously  :D

Ben and his mental issues were heartbreaking... I mean, I was pissed at him for continously screwing up but he couldn't help it, the penultimate episode with Wendy driving him around and realizing more and more that he couldn't absolutely be trusted to live wa completely devastating.

Bleah at Darlene and Wyatt, ew.

And the ending.... during the last episode I was wondering how season 4 would go down - it seemed to be shaping like an epic battle of wits between the Byrdes and Helen and I'm curious to see how they wiOH MY GOD THEY SHOT HELEN IN THE HEAD MARTY AND WENDY HAVE HER BLOOD AND BRAINS IN THE HAIR AND ON THE CLOTHES OMG!!! What the hell is with this show and suddenly shooting people in the face in the last episode!?!?

Now that I'm all caught up, I'm eagerly awaiting the final season. I can't even imagine how it could end - with Breaking Bad you knew that Walter White was 99% going to die, the only doubts were how much collateral damage he'd leave behind, and if it was a completely depressing one or a bittersweet one.

With Ozark I can't even imagine what would be Marty's "happy ending", and therefore imaging the opposite - would he break free from the cartel now that he's so deep in? would his arrest with Navarro being killed be an happy ending or not? will he and Wendy remain on the same side? is Jonas going to break bad? will Ruth get the hugs and respect she deserves? will Darlene finally, FINALLY die? caaaaan't wait!!!!
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« Reply #78 on: April 15, 2021, 05:52:53 AM »
I'm six episodes into Season 1 - and I'm thinking of ditching it.  As you said MirrorMask it's easiest comparison is Breaking Bad, but Breaking Bad was often really, really funny...I'm finding Ozark (so far) just a bit drab.   Also doesn't help I'm just not a fan of Bateman in general and here he's doing his normal 'everyman' routine and to be honest I'm finding that makes his character (the main character) not very interesting or engaging.

Basically if I'm struggling with it now, is it worth continuing with?  Or should I just pass this one of as 'not one for me' (we can't all like the samethings!)?

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« Reply #79 on: April 15, 2021, 06:33:43 AM »
I immediately liked Season 1, but season 2 and 3 were even better. I don't know if the step-up is gonna be enough for you if already the premise doesn't interest you.

You're six episodes in, just stick to the final four so that you complete at least the season, and then decide if the way season 2 is set up can interest you.
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« Reply #80 on: April 15, 2021, 07:49:29 AM »
I found Ruth to be the funniest character - she's given some fantastic dialogue.  It really is a great show, even if it is similar to Breaking Bad.  Jason Bateman, Laura Linney and the girl that plays Ruth are fantastic.

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« Reply #81 on: April 17, 2021, 07:51:05 AM »
I still don't see the show as being similar to Breaking Bad much at all, and whoever in the media started that narrative not only did the show a disservice, but put unrealistic expectations on it.  Several co-workers went in expecting BB quality and gave up saying, "It was okay, but it was no Breaking Bad." 

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« Reply #82 on: April 17, 2021, 08:29:22 AM »
I still don't see the show as being similar to Breaking Bad much at all, and whoever in the media started that narrative not only did the show a disservice, but put unrealistic expectations on it.  Several co-workers went in expecting BB quality and gave up saying, "It was okay, but it was no Breaking Bad."

I think it’s every bit as good as BB as far as writing, and in fact.....believe the ensemble of actors on Ozark outshine the ensemble on BB.

But it was and is an unfair comparison because outside of having drug dealing as a plot device there really isn’t much of a similarity.
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« Reply #83 on: April 17, 2021, 09:18:37 PM »
I still don't see the show as being similar to Breaking Bad much at all, and whoever in the media started that narrative not only did the show a disservice, but put unrealistic expectations on it.  Several co-workers went in expecting BB quality and gave up saying, "It was okay, but it was no Breaking Bad."

I think it’s every bit as good as BB as far as writing, and in fact.....believe the ensemble of actors on Ozark outshine the ensemble on BB.

But it was and is an unfair comparison because outside of having drug dealing as a plot device there really isn’t much of a similarity.

Ozark has far more over the top contrived moments that BB ever did, IMO, but the writing is still very good.  I think the acting on both is great, so I won't go out of my way to trash anyone from either show, but Bryan Cranston is the x-factor that makes BB stand out in a big, big way, as I still think his performance was one of the two greatest I have ever seen in either TV or film (he and Gandolfini from The Sopranos are 1a and 1b for me).

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« Reply #84 on: January 17, 2022, 03:32:11 PM »
The fourth season of Ozark will be available on Netflix January 21st.  It has been almost two years since season 3. 
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« Reply #85 on: January 18, 2022, 10:20:12 AM »
Really looking forward to season 4, which will be split into 2 parts!
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« Reply #86 on: January 19, 2022, 01:19:07 AM »
I hope they'll stick to the landing and this will be remembered like one of the greatest series in recent years.
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« Reply #87 on: January 19, 2022, 06:47:27 AM »
I hope they'll stick to the landing and this will be remembered like one of the greatest series in recent years.

There is zero reason to doubt they won't accomplish that. It's been fantastic thus far.
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« Reply #88 on: January 21, 2022, 10:28:38 PM »
Two episodes into season 4 part 1. Man is it so good so far. So much tension!
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« Reply #89 on: January 22, 2022, 05:50:55 AM »
Saw the first episode. I'm gonna watch one episode per day and, if anyone cares, this is what I already consider "binging".

I'm gonna savor this one and not gonna gulp down seven episodes in a row.

And yeah, first episode is quite great, I wonder if the opening scene is gonna be contestualized only at the end of the seventh episode, or we'll know more soon....
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« Reply #90 on: January 23, 2022, 02:25:05 PM »
Looks like I finished the Expanse just in time....digging into S4 now...

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« Reply #91 on: January 24, 2022, 04:04:56 AM »
I'm three episodes in, great stuff.

It's not a spoiler since it's my opinion since the end of season 3, so what I'm thinking now I was already thinking it at the end of season 3, but I hope Ruth manages to come out alive and happy!
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« Reply #92 on: January 24, 2022, 05:27:22 AM »
I already finished the new season, but I will hold off saying anything until others are finished as well.

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« Reply #93 on: January 24, 2022, 07:23:55 AM »
Only had time for the first episode.

God I love this show.
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« Reply #94 on: January 24, 2022, 08:22:34 AM »
I already finished the new season, but I will hold off saying anything until others are finished as well.

I'd say give it at least a week.  :lol

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« Reply #95 on: January 24, 2022, 05:35:57 PM »
Haha, yep.

I will say this: Julia Garner deserves any and all accolades and awards she gets.  She does a magnificent job in playing Ruth.  Bateman and Linney are tremendous in their roles as well, but Garner, who was obviously kind of an unknown prior to this role, is a revelation.

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« Reply #96 on: January 24, 2022, 07:57:24 PM »
Holy fucking shit! This half of the season was unreal!
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« Reply #97 on: January 24, 2022, 08:06:35 PM »
What the actual fuck? This shit is fucking blowing my mind. Seriously a fantastic season, love the depth of Navarro's character, and Ruth is perfection. The moment where she is all pissed at Wyatt for getting married to Darlene, then does that 180 moment and ask if she can go to the wedding...I can't believe how brilliant a piece of acting that was, how she revealed the real heart of who Ruth is and how lost she truly is in one simple line. Just fucking amazing



Ok, done. Fantastic stuff. I'll wait for everyone to catch up, but damn I can't wait for Pt2, just read that to be considered for Emmy nomination, the entirety of it must be finished broadcasting by May 31st, so we shouldn't have to wait too long.
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« Reply #98 on: January 24, 2022, 08:55:37 PM »
Agree with your small print. Ruth is an amazing character and very well acted.
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« Reply #99 on: January 25, 2022, 01:51:24 AM »
Yikes - small print!  Avoiding for now.. :lol

Finished ep 4 last night. Loving the unpredictability of it, and the characters are really strong. If this is indeed the final season, I think it could go down as one of the best shows on Netflix.

I love that there's all sorts of different strings of tension going on between all the characters. You can tell that Marty does have some sort of affection for Ruth, and as others have said, the actress that plays her is absolutely brilliant.

Also Darlene has to to be one of my favourite characters. You just don't know what you're going to get with her - all kinds of crazy!

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« Reply #100 on: January 25, 2022, 02:18:16 AM »
I too finished the fourth episode, as I said I'm watching one per day.

Quote out of context: "What the fuck, what the actual fucking fuck?"

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Totally agree, and again it's not a spoiler since it was already obvious, about how Marty cares for Ruth, if these two aren't buddies by the end of the series, I'm gonna be sad.
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« Reply #101 on: January 25, 2022, 04:24:53 AM »
Finished it on the weekend. Love it. No to spoil it all for you guys..   just kidding.

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« Reply #102 on: January 26, 2022, 03:07:33 AM »
Saw the fifth episode. Another out of context quote:

"WHAT?"
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« Reply #103 on: January 28, 2022, 03:18:56 AM »
Finished the seven episodes.

Game of Thrones had the 9th episode with all the mayhem going on, Ozark instead has the last episode of the season with someone being suddenly shot in the fucking face, holy jeez that will never stop to startle me!
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« Reply #104 on: January 28, 2022, 05:36:43 AM »
Finished the seven episodes.

Game of Thrones had the 9th episode with all the mayhem going on, Ozark instead has the last episode of the season with someone being suddenly shot in the fucking face, holy jeez that will never stop to startle me!

Any sympathy I had for Wyatt was long gone after he told Ruth he never really wanted to go with her.  Given what a smart guy Wyatt was shown to be scholastically, I guess he was a shining example of what can happen when intelligent people make really bad decisions.