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What are your favorites of these Iron Maiden songs?

Strange World
11 (4.5%)
Innocent Exile
5 (2.1%)
Twilight Zone
4 (1.7%)
Invaders
14 (5.8%)
The Prisoner
25 (10.3%)
Die With Your Boots On
17 (7%)
Sun and Steel
6 (2.5%)
The Duellists
11 (4.5%)
Sea of Madness
23 (9.5%)
The Loneliness of the Long Distance Runner
14 (5.8%)
The Prophecy
13 (5.4%)
Run Silent Run Deep
6 (2.5%)
Judas Be My Guide
12 (5%)
Look For the Truth
3 (1.2%)
The Unbeliever
6 (2.5%)
Lightning Strikes Twice
4 (1.7%)
The Educated Fool
5 (2.1%)
The Fallen Angel
11 (4.5%)
Montsegur
17 (7%)
New Frontier
2 (0.8%)
The Pilgrim
4 (1.7%)
Out of the Shadows
4 (1.7%)
Mother of Mercy
8 (3.3%)
The Alchemist
6 (2.5%)
When the River Runs Deep
6 (2.5%)
The Man Of Sorrows
5 (2.1%)

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Re: Iron Maiden Discography Thread: Maiden England and solo albums (2012 - 14)
« Reply #1715 on: March 15, 2018, 10:36:32 PM »
The Book of Souls (2015)


After a longer touring cycle than normal, it was time for Maiden to shift the focus back to new music. This time around, they decided to write the album in the studio where it was being recorded. By doing so, they could record a song as soon as the writing was complete to preserve the initial spirit of the track. As Maiden themselves and many other artists have stated, it can often be hard to recapture the vibe of a demo when going for a finished recording. Writing in the studio was also appealing because it removed the ever growing risk of a fan coming across the rehearsal space and recording from outside (not that this ever happened, but Bruce voiced concerns about it in his book). Like The Final Frontier, the band decided to revisit a studio they used in the past. This time it was Guillaume Tell Studios in Paris, where the band recorded Brave New World 15 years earlier. Kevin Shirley was once again at the production helm and, being the fifth album with this lineup, this would make the current lineup the longest surviving Maiden lineup both in terms of years and albums recorded.

While the majority of the material was in fact written in the studio, some of the songs date back a bit earlier. Before the sessions began, Bruce and Adrian met up for what became a very lucrative writing session that harkened back to their legendary partnership in the 80s. Of course the two continued to collaborate on recent albums, but it was usually along with Steve Harris (who was often more involved in the music than Bruce). Not counting the songs that involved Steve, this was the first time the two collaborated with each other since Bruce’s solo albums in the late 90s. Adrian had also played a large part in the proggier direction of the last two albums and contributed many of the longer songs. For The Book of Souls, a conscious effort was made by the guitarist to dial it back a bit and return to the straightforward Metal sound of classic Maiden. Consequently, Adrian and Bruce came up with two of the catchiest and most high energy rockers that have been produced by modern Maiden: the Deep Purple-esque Speed of Light and the World War I based Death or Glory. Speed of Light was particularly driven by the guitar and heavily influenced by players such as Eric Johnson. Adrian stated that listening to Johnson inspired him to revisit the pentatonic scale to create new interesting riffs. On the other hand, Death Or Glory is a rocker with a shuffle feel that describes the triplane piloted by the Red Baron. Classic subject matter for Maiden and unsurprising coming from Dickinson, who owns a triplane replica and took part in a World War I dogfight demonstration at Sonisphere just months prior. Ironically, the song is largely reminiscent of the war inspired tunes of the 80s such as Aces High and Where Eagles Dare, both songs that were penned by Harris.

Other material that was considered before the album sessions began also came from Dickinson. Earlier that year, Bruce met with long time collaborator Roy Z to work on some new solo material for a potential new album (his first solo album since 2005). A concept album was conceived titled If Eternity Should Fail and demos were recorded. In a surprise repeat of history from No Prayer For the Dying with Bring Your Daughter to the Slaughter, Steve Harris asked if Maiden could “borrow” some of these songs for the next album. Two songs were chosen: the album’s title track, If Eternity Should Fail, and another track called Nightmares. The latter was ultimately rejected because the band would’ve had to give Roy Z a writing credit and Steve has a strict no outsider writers in Maiden rule. However, If Eternity Should Fail was written solely by Bruce Dickinson and was therefore eligible to be on the album. Bruce initially assumed that the intro and outro would be removed from the Maiden version, since they were related to his album’s concept and these sections wouldn’t make sense out of context. But Steve insisted that they be left on since by then The Book of Souls was chosen for the album title and Steve liked how lines such as “here is the soul of a man” would connect to the title. If Eternity Should Fail is also notable for being the first Maiden song where the entire band was tuned to drop D. Adrian and Janick had used drop D before in other songs (Adrian in particular even reworked older songs to add an extra frequency layer to the music), but this was the first time all three guitarists used the tuning on the same song.

Once in the studio, the more traditional writing partnerships once again took shape. The three guitarists all came in with their own ideas and Steve Harris worked to help arrange them into fleshed out songs. The amount of contributions from the guitarists actually ended up being about the same as on the previous two albums, with five songs from Adrian, two songs from Janick, and one song from Dave. Two of the Adrian songs were the previously mentioned collaborations with Bruce and the remaining three were collaborations with Steve. These two were also on the shorter side, making The Book of Souls the first album since Brave New World not to contain an epic from Adrian. Instead, the guitarist brought forth some more quick rockers in the form of When the River Runs Deep, The Great Unknown, and Tears of a Clown. Of these three songs, The Great Unknown was probably the closest to the proggier output on the previous albums, with a slow intro followed by a steady beat akin to Mother of Mercy or one of the many songs on A Matter of Life and Death to use this format. The song also showed Adrian experimenting further with his guitar playing by using an open tuning in the intro. The Great Unknown is also notable for being the first song that the band came up with and recorded during the proper album sessions.

One of the songs that received a lot of buzz in the weeks leading up to the album was Tears of a Clown. It piqued the interest of many fans early on for two reasons: because Bruce stated that it was his favorite on the album and because it was revealed that the lyrics were inspired by the death of Robin Williams. Steve Harris is no stranger to depression and has tackled the topic several times in past Maiden songs both directly and indirectly. Close to the making of the album, the bassist suffered the losses of several close friends and family members which had a large impact on his output for The Book of Souls. Needless to say, the story of Robin Williams’ depression and suicide impacted him deeply and inspired one of the songs on the album. Tears of a Clown is not directly about Robin Williams, but the influence is prominent. Bruce found out about the song’s theme when he asked Steve what it was about while recording. It is obvious when listening to his performance that it greatly inspired the singer.

Another song that was influenced by the events in Steve’s personal life is The Man of Sorrows, also the album’s obligatory Dave Murray contribution. Not to be confused with the song that appeared on Bruce Dickinson’s Accident of Birth, The Man of Sorrows deals with mortality and the experience of watching those who are close to you pass away. Of all the songs on the album, this is the one that most directly addresses what Steve was going through at the time. Along with Tears of the Clown, it’s somber but also among the heaviest songs on the album.

For the third album in a row, Janick’s output was limited to two songs: Shadows of the Valley and The Book of Souls. Although they were both on the longer side, The Book of Souls in particular stands out for being one of six Maiden songs to cross the 10 minute mark (three of these appear on this album alone). This song follows the progression of Janick epics that began all the way back in 2000 with Dream of Mirrors. When the album and tracklist were announced to the public, the length of this song suggested that it would contain another long acoustic intro akin to those found on The Legacy and The Talisman. However, Janick and Steve subverted expectations quite a bit. The song does contain an acoustic intro but it’s very brief. The bulk of the song is heavy and contains many different parts. The lyrics, inspired by Mayan mythology, also helped to shape the theme and art direction of the album.

Of course the album wouldn’t be complete with Steve’s own stab at an epic. This time he attempted to outdo himself by bringing in a track that equalled the length of Rime of the Ancient Mariner, which was the longest Maiden song prior to this album. Being in the shadow of Rime (not to mention another epic that we’ll get to later) probably didn’t help this track in the end as the songs share very few (if any) similarities. In fact, The Red and the Black probably has more in common musically and lyrically with The Angel and the Gambler than Rime of the Ancient Mariner, although that is not necessarily a bad thing. Like Angel, the song seems pretty clearly influenced by the heavy and progressive rock of the 70s that Steve listened to growing up. It is a song that gives the band a chance to flex their musical muscles and jam. The instrumental section is so long that in itself it could qualify as the first Maiden instrumental song since Losfer Words (just that section even dwarfs the lengths of most of Maiden’s instrumentals). In fact, the vocal parts really seem to just serve as a jumping off point for the instrumental. Steve also gets a chance to show off his bass playing with bass solos bookending the track. The vocal parts are Steve’s typical wordy affairs, which Bruce struggled to sing in the studio. The lyrics predictably describe fate and chance, all of which Steve has dealt with before.

Meanwhile, Bruce was notably absent from the writing sessions for the album. Normally he was heavily involved in the songwriting, especially working with Adrian and Steve. However, this time around he spent the writing sessions isolated in a soundproof booth with a grand piano. Bruce had been messing with several musical and lyrical ideas without knowing for sure which direction he was going to take. At one point he thought the piece would be about World War I triplanes, but that ideal ultimately manifested itself in Death or Glory and Bruce did not want to repeat himself. Around this time, Bruce was fascinated by the R 101 Airship disaster. He had collected material from the event and recently finished a biography about the incident. The book, titled To Ride the Storm served as inspiration for the first line of the song and the story that Bruce’s music would illustrate. The process of writing the piece was a slow and laborious process. Secluded in the piano booth, Bruce would slowly pound away each section. He would think about which part of the story he was on and write music that suitably fit the mood he needed to convey. The entire thing was written on piano and Bruce imagined it being performed not with electric guitars, but with horn sections and strings. Bruce spent the entire period of writing and recording The Book of Souls working on this piece. Consequently, it was his only contribution other than what he had previously worked on with Adrian and Roy Z outside of the Maiden sessions.

After weeks of work, Bruce presented his opus, Empire of the Clouds, to the band. He performed the song to them on the piano, which was made particularly tedious thanks to his limited proficiency at the instrument. Since everything was to be based around the piano, the first step was to record the piano parts Bruce came up with. The piano part was recorded not on the Steinway grand piano that the piece was written on, but a MIDI keyboard so that Bruce’s mistakes could just be edited to save time. The real challenge came when it was time for the song to be Maidenized and arranged for the band. Some piano melodies were translated to guitar, some new riffs and chord progressions were conceived to support the piano parts, and dynamic heavy sections were created to increase the drama. A major help with the piece was actually Nicko McBrain, who collaborated with Bruce on percussion parts that would illustrate the story, specifically the crash of the airship. He brought in orchestral percussion for embellishment and to add density to the music. The band also employed Jeff Bova to create an orchestral arrangement, although these parts were performed by a synthesizer using orchestral sounds. It was an ambitious and challenging project, but the band came through with the help of Bruce and Kevin Shirley’s direction. The end result was not only the longest song on an album that already contained some of Maiden’s strongest material, but the longest song the band had ever recorded at a whopping 18 minutes.

To that end, it became obvious very early in the recording sessions that there was enough material for a double album. They approached this with the attitude that “if it is to be a double album, then a double album it will be.” Of course this was to the dismay of Rod Smallwood, who jokingly suggested that they instead release them separately i.e. Use Your Illusion or Load/Reload. Separating the album was out of the question as a lot of time and effort was invested into making sure that a complete and coherent piece was produced.

By December 2014, the recording of the album was finished and the band was ready to set their sights on a new tour, starting Summer 2015 in North America. These plans came to a quick halt when, just weeks after wrapping up production, Bruce was diagnosed with tongue and throat cancer.

Bruce’s battle with cancer was well publicized during the promotional cycle for the album and the man himself chronicled the story better than I ever could in his autobiography. So instead of rehashing that story (which you’re all probably well familiar with), I’ll just recommend checking out the book if you haven’t already. What I will say is that Bruce recovered remarkably quick. The end of 2014 was unusually quiet from the Maiden camp. There were reports of the band booking studio time in Paris but the new year passed without any concrete information. It wasn’t until Bruce had finished chemotherapy in February when it was announced to the public that he had cancer. There was then much uncertainty about the band’s future and, more importantly, concerns for the singer’s health. The official statement was vague but optimistic. Naturally, there was question of the severity of Bruce’s cancer, whether the press release was intentionally downplaying something more serious, and if he would ever sing or perform with Maiden again. Things remained quiet in the Maiden camp again for the first part of 2015 until Bruce was given the all clear in May. It was then confirmed that a new album would be released later that year and that Maiden intended on returning to the road once Bruce fully recovered.

Meanwhile, the Maiden promotional machine geared up for the new album promotional cycle. Being the ever shrewd manager, Rod Smallwood saw an opportunity to use Bruce’s cancer fight and recovery as an effective promotional tool. As if the first Maiden album in half a decade wasn’t enough, the album could be advertised as a comeback for Bruce despite being recorded prior to the cancer treatment. Given that the album was bookended by two behemoth tracks from the singer, putting him in the spotlight for the album promotion made even more sense. The press release highlighted Bruce’s story and every interview inevitably addressed the topic. Bruce also gave a majority of the interviews promoting the album, although he had always been a prominent part of Maiden’s publicity apparatus.

The album was finally formally announced in 2015, complete with a title, cover, and tracklisting. Instead of the slow drip of news and countdowns that came with The Final Frontier, everything was dumped in one unannounced press release. Later on the first single, Speed of Light, was also announced. Unlike El Dorado from The Final Frontier, Speed of Light had a physical release and an accompanying video.

The Mayan theme of the album allowed the band to revisit familiar thematic territory in the album artwork. They could revisit the Powerslave aesthetic with pyramids and ancient artifacts. They decided not to replicate the grandeur of the Powerslave cover, however, and instead went with the most minimalist Maiden design arguably since the debut. The cover was designed by Mark Wilkinson, who is perhaps best known for designing the Marillion covers, as well as Best of the B Sides and Live at Donington by Maiden. He also designed some iconic Judas Priest covers, including Painkiller. The simplicity of the front facing Eddie on the cover brought a lot of mystique to the album. Of course a more elaborate design became visible when opening up the album booklet or the gatefold of the triple LP release (The Book of Souls was also the first Maiden album since Fear of the Dark to receive a black vinyl release).

The heavy promotional campaign worked. The album saw the band’s first second consecutive #1 album in the UK and fifth overall, in addition to #1 in many other countries and #4 in the US. It also outsold The Final Frontier in the UK and USA by a considerable amount, despite the same chart positions. Overall, The Book of Souls became one of the band’s best selling and most buzzed about album in years. It was also received to high praise from fans and critics alike, being heralded by many as their best since Brave New World. In interviews, the band also seemed far more energized than they had been in years. There was more enthusiasm about the album than what was present for The Final Frontier and it felt like Bruce’s cancer had revitalized the band. However, the quality and energy of the album suggested that this revitalization was already taking shape before Bruce was diagnosed. It was a long wait, but now fans had yet another classic Maiden album.




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Re: Iron Maiden Discography Thread: Maiden England and solo albums (2012 - 14)
« Reply #1716 on: March 15, 2018, 10:37:36 PM »

The Book of Souls Tour (2016 - 17)


On February 24, 2016, a little over a year after Bruce completed chemotherapy, the Book of Souls Tour opened in Florida. The circumstances of the tour were unique due to Bruce’s cancer. It was not just another tour promoting an album, but a comeback to the stage after the first calendar year without any Maiden performances since 1997. As such, it was one of the most heavily hyped album tours arguably since Brave New World. The Book Of Souls tour was the third tour to feature the Ed Force One, although this time it came with significant upgrades. During late 2015, while still recovering from chemotherapy, Bruce Dickinson trained to fly a 747 jumbo jet. This was an upgrade from the 757 being used in terms of speed and cargo space. Consequently, the band were able to expand their itinerary and bring the full production on the plane. The 2016 leg of the tour was a typical Ed Force One outing, with the band hopping around the world and continually uncovering new places to play, such as El Salvador.

As usual, the stage set was based around the new album. The Book Of Souls tour marked one of their largest productions yet. The stage was designed to resemble the Mayan theme of the album with jungle vines and shrines. Drapes were used to enhance the visual, some which were based around the stage design, some were based on artwork or songs from the album, and others depicted classic Maiden artwork. Of course Eddie also made an appearance. For the first time on an Ed Force One tour, the band were able to bring both a walk on Eddie and a big Eddie. Both were based on the Eddie that appears on The Book of Souls, with the big Eddie using the same inflatable design that was used on the tour for The Final Frontier.

For the setlist, new considerations had to be made given Bruce’s circumstances. He was still recovering and it was uncertain how much his voice would be able to handle. He ended up receiving higher input on the setlist than usual. Despite his increased involvement, the setlist was not a major departure from what was typical for Maiden, although there were some noteworthy features. As usual, the album was featured prominently. More of The Book of Souls was represented than The Final Frontier on its tour, with six songs totalling nearly 50 minutes of set time.

The show opened with the 1 - 2 punch of If Eternity Should Fail and Speed of Light. If Eternity Should Fail opened up the opportunity for some theatrics from Bruce, who appeared on stage with a cauldron to sing the intro. Bruce made the interesting choice of actually singing along with his original vocal track. He intentionally sang out of time with the track to create an artificial delay. The original track was also used for the acoustic outro, although this time Bruce did not sing along. Tears of a Clown was also played, supposedly because it was such a favorite among fans and members of the band. Also from the new album were two of the epics, The Book of Souls and The Red and the Black. The former served as the show’s centerpiece, featuring Eddie taking the stage and having his heart ripped out by Bruce in a sort of throwback to 1983. The Red and the Black was an expected addition as the Harris epic of the album. It went down surprisingly well, with a decent portion of the audience singing along to parts that were clearly written to be sung along to. The sleeper hit of the new songs was actually Death or Glory, which became memorable for Bruce’s antics during the “climb like a monkey” line in the chorus. What started as a fun little dance eventually evolved into Bruce coming on stage with a monkey mask and bananas.

The one glaring omission was Empire of the Clouds, although it seemed to be a non starter for the setlist. Bruce stated that playing the song would be too much of an ego trip and would eat up too much set time. He also mentioned that he wanted to perform it as a special one off with a real orchestra. On the other hand, Nicko has especially shown a willingness to play the song as well as a desire to do a Maiden concert with an orchestra. It remains uncertain whether the song will ever be played live, although it seems to have more of a chance than any other never before played live Maiden song.

The rest of the setlist was an interesting mix of classics. Among the usual suspects were The Trooper, Fear of the Dark, Hallowed Be Thy Name, Iron Maiden, and Number of the Beast. Run to the Hills was notably absent, although at this point it is to be expected that the song will be dropped regularly. There were some surprising additions, namely Children of the Damned and Powerslave. Powerslave was a song that fit the theme of the show perfectly, but was unexpected due to only having appeared on three tours previously. Children of the Damned was teased prior to the tour as a song that would surprise fans. While it is not exactly a rare song, this was the first time it appeared on an entire tour since the 80s. Previously it was only played at select gigs or added on the second leg of a tour. Even the encore had some surprises. Blood Brothers was played as the only representation of 00s Maiden other than the new songs and Wasted Years was an unexpected way to close the show. This tour marked the first time either songs were used in an encore and made for one of the most unique encores since the Dance of Death tour.

Like the Maiden England, Final Frontier, and Somewhere Back In Time tours, the setlist saw some slight adjustments the following year. Unsurprisingly, Wrathchild was added. Furthermore, the legal battle over Maiden’s alleged plagiarism of Beckett lyrics prompted the band to drop it from the setlist. The most intriguing change however was the band swapping Tears of a Clown for The Great Unknown. This was a controversial choice for some, as Tears of a Clown was arguably the more popular song, although many fans were thrilled to see more material from The Book of Souls live. This also marked one of the rare occasions where a song from the latest album was added to the tour later on. The only other time this happened in the band’s history was on the Brave New World tour, when Out of the Silent Planet was played at select shows on the tour’s South American leg.

Unsurprisingly, the tour was a huge success for the band. The presence of Ed Force One once again brought lots of publicity and with this Maiden were also really upping their social media presence. High quality videos were frequently uploaded and photos of fans at gigs and plane sightings were posted regularly. The band played to huge crowds around the world and were praised for continuing to put on energetic performances. To commemorate the tour, a live release was compiled:
 
The Book of Souls Live Chapter (2017)


Released just a few months after the conclusion of The Book of Souls tour, Live Chapter was a strange release from the band. No DVD was released. Instead, a video was live streamed ahead of the album release and was then subsequently made available for purchase on iTunes video (although the video footage is still available on Iron Maiden’s official YouTube channel. It was not a particularly produced video, but simply a compilation of screen feed footage (with various performances edited together). The audio, however, was released as a double CD, triple vinyl, and digital download. Like Flight 666 and A Real Live Dead One, the audio was taken from several different performances on the tour rather than just focusing on one show.

Despite the fact that the recordings span both legs of the tour, not every song was represented on the album. Hallowed Be Thy Name was excluded presumably due to the legal issues with Beckett, but Tears of a Clown was also absent for unknown reasons. Fortunately, the band’s performance at Wacken 2016 was live streamed and can still be viewed online. This performance includes both those songs and is worth checking out for a single complete performance from a remarkable tour.

Wacken: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUqoSIKyCb4

Overall, there is not much about Live Chapter that sets it apart from other Maiden live albums. That is not to say it isn’t worth checking out though. The Book of Souls Tour was one of the most exciting in the band’s career and boasts one of their strongest setlists. It’s a great memento for those who were lucky enough to witness the tour and a great way for those who missed it to experience it for themselves.

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Re: Iron Maiden Discography Thread: The Book Of Souls (2015 - 17)
« Reply #1717 on: March 16, 2018, 03:45:18 AM »
The (for now) Final Chapter in these entries is like the last ones, interesting, comprehensive, and well worth a read  :tup

The Book of Souls is awesome. I felt it was a much needed shake up in the formula; the first time I heard it I felt like it was a collective solo album by the six members (if that made sense... kinda like The Astonishing could be seen as a Petrucci / Rudess solo album within the Dream Theater world).

As I pointed out before, you could re-arrange the tracklist of The Final Frontier to make it match, for kind of songs, 95% with the one of A Matter of Life and Death... there were only so many variations of the short uplifting rocker + shorter songs + load of epics with slow intros they could do before it became stale, and this album was a good detour.

Just like DT, I managed to buy the album on release day without having heard a single note. I stayed away from the single and from possible snippets, bought the MARVELOUS book-like package, went home, fired up Doctor Doctor just to get in the mood and recreate the live experience, I even heard Rising Mercury (Maiden England's intro) to be a nerd completist, and then went into the album. I plan to do it again for the next one.

If Eternity Should Fail is a kickass and wonderful opener, I hope Bruce does release his solo album sometimes and that this song appears, maybe re-recorded.
I'm not the biggest fan of The Red and the Black, but I applaud the scope of the song.
Death or Glory is a kickass rocker and the verses are so damn catchy.
The Book of Souls is possibly the most majestic title track since Seventh Son of a Seventh Son, a mammoth epic that plods along in an eerie way before exploding in the chorus and then in the final section (who cares if it's lifted from Montsegur).
Shadow of the Valley is Wasted Years meet Benny Breeg meet Out of the Silent Planet but again who cares, it came out pretty good!
Tears of a Clown is indeed touching and poignant.
The Man of Sorrows' intro is one of the most mesmerizing and beautiful performances from Bruce, akin to the first verse of Out of the Shadows.

And Empire of the Clouds... fastest and most beautiful 18 minutes of my life. Bruce so late in his carrer painted his Mona Lisa. The song is an absolute masterpiece and a musical mini movie, and you can find I believe on YouTube a Bruce / Nicko interview that explains into detail their musical choices for the song.

It was love at first listening: the piano melody, the moment the vocals come in, EVERYTHING. I can actually live through the song, I close my eyes and I see royalty and dignitaries with brandies and cigars, I see hanging at the mast in the early dawn red light the R101, I feel the anguish of the storm that was bringing the aircraft down. I thank and I'm grateful to (Ronnie James) Dio (in italian it means God), all the gods of heavy metal and the doctors that treated Bruce that all went well, but what a wonderful swan song it would have been if he had to stop singing.

I remember at the climax of the song, during the first listening, that I noticed I was 15 minutes in and I was like "Really? only 3 minutes and it's over?"... I just didn't want it to stop. An absolute masterpiece and the crowning achievement of the carrer of heavy metal's best singer and frontman (Sorry guys, to me Bruce is essentially Leonardo reincarnated with god powers). Marvellous album, one of their strongest for sure.

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Re: Iron Maiden Discography Thread: The Book Of Souls (2015 - 17)
« Reply #1718 on: March 16, 2018, 04:30:46 AM »
Thanks for doing this, Mosh, it's been a great ride!
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Re: Iron Maiden Discography Thread: The Book Of Souls (2015 - 17)
« Reply #1719 on: March 16, 2018, 07:36:53 AM »
Excellent effort and job with this thread!

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Re: Iron Maiden Discography Thread: The Book Of Souls (2015 - 17)
« Reply #1720 on: March 16, 2018, 07:45:05 AM »
What a ridiculously fun thread!  Amazing write ups too - since this one started, I've gone back over each album and spent time with a lot of their albums that I tend to skip in favor of my favorites.

I love The Book of Souls, and it's probably my second favorite reunion era disc behind Brave New World, though I do have a new appreciation for A Matter of Life and Death too.  I sadly missed out on the two legs of the tour that came through Chicago over the last two or three years due to them being weeknight shows, work and family commitments.  But it's awesome to see that they're still promoting their new material so heavily and filling up large arenas and amphitheaters this late in their career.

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Re: Iron Maiden Discography Thread: The Book Of Souls (2015 - 17)
« Reply #1721 on: March 16, 2018, 10:54:46 AM »
Mosh,

Top notch job on this. Wonderful detailed history. And as a fellow music history buff, I don't think I've seen anyone write with more detail than you on a band. Thank you for doing it.

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« Reply #1722 on: March 16, 2018, 12:14:47 PM »
If I had a hat on, I would take it off to Mosh.  :hefdaddy

The release of The Book of souls was such a fun time. I still remember being absolutely floored by the album the first time I heard it. Empire immediately stood out and I still think it's one of their five best songs of all time. The Red and the black is another one of my favorites, as well as the underrated and energetic When the river runs deep. I need to single out the guitar harmony in The Great unknown as one of my favorite bits, as well as Bruce's performance on The Man of sorrows - it's intoxicatingly sad.

The tour was incredilbe and I had a chance to see it three times. The Red and the black was a clear highlight for me, although I'm not sure other people loved it as much. Death of glory was hilarious, Bruce did a fantastic job with the antics. And the combo of Blood brothers and Wasted years at the end is probably the best Maiden closer ever. I got very emotional every time.

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« Reply #1723 on: March 16, 2018, 01:57:19 PM »
This thread is an amazing journey from the begginning, thanks, Mosh!
Just because we are arriving at nowadays in this thread, I'll leave this information here:
-Dickinson said the change in performance approach was partly because the band isn't promoting a new album but performing material from throughout its career instead. “When you do a show like we’re planning to do, I want it to be really slick, but awesome,” he told Kerrang in a new interview. "I want people to go, ‘Wow! Fucking hell, you’ve gotta see this show!’ I want people to be surprised as well. I want them to go home going, ‘Fucking hell, I can’t believe they played that song!’ That’s the reaction I want."-
Source:https://ultimateclassicrock.com/why-bruce-dickinson-wont-talk-much-on-iron-maiden-tour/
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« Reply #1724 on: March 16, 2018, 02:02:44 PM »
I think we should be cautiously optimistic.

Flight of Icarus, Be Quick or Be Dead, unusual encore like the Book of Souls tour (not always Hallowed / Run to the Hills / Running Free) kind of optimistic.

Not Alexander the Great, Judas Be My Guide optimistic.
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« Reply #1726 on: March 16, 2018, 02:52:46 PM »
Now that we are onto the next album cycle, I guess I can end my self-imposed rage boycott of the thread after page 48.  :lol 

I was lukewarm on The Book of Souls when it first came out.  But I have warmed up to it considerably and enjoy listening to it.  Live Chapter is also pretty good, but I wish there was video.
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« Reply #1727 on: March 16, 2018, 07:37:30 PM »
Thanks for the kind words everyone. This thread has been a pleasure. Expect a short recap next week.

Now that we are onto the next album cycle, I guess I can end my self-imposed rage boycott of the thread after page 48.  :lol 

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« Reply #1728 on: March 17, 2018, 06:00:55 AM »
On to the tour... if anybody's interested, here are some pics of mine from the Milan date back in 2016!

https://www.facebook.com/612493155488167/photos/?tab=album&album_id=1078973458840132

The show was awesome. The beginning was one of the coolest ever, I love theatrics in a show and the cauldron intro with Bruce was badass. Children of the Damned already third in the set was a pleasant surprise, and a sign of a slightly unusual show. Loved Tears of a Clown and especially Death or Glory, only Bruce could have taken the wackiest line of the song (which is historically accurate however - the Red Baron did describe going into the cockpit as climbing like a monkey) and turn it into a funny moment for everyone... love how they don't take themselves too much seriously.

Powerslave was a kickass and awesome surprise, they probably broke one of their unwritten rules for the first time ever - "The centerpiece of an album and tour gets played only in the dedicated tour".  And The Book of Souls is as majestic and captivating live as it is in the studio. Once again, good mix of serious theatrics, and wacky moments (Bruce defeating Eddie by sticking his fingers in his eyes).

Maybe the big Eddie of Iron Maiden wasn't the best ever (can't top the tank), but it was cool nevertheless. And the encore, opening with 666 aside, was unexpected - after Blood Brothers I was thinking "Oh please, do The Wicker Man, do something else, don't make the usual Running Free or Sanctuary"... and I got my wish.

Given Maiden's history, this was a highly adventurous setlist. All in the same show we got:

- Relatively rare track (Children)
- Title track of another album and centerpiece of another tour (Powerslave) instead of the "hit" song off that album (23:58)
- Final song that wasn't Running / Hills / Sanctuary or even the recently used Halloweed
- Even with the usual suspects in, they managed to discard at the same time the aforementioned usual closers AND Wrathchiild AND 23:58 AND anything off Seventh Son

Come on, unless Mike Portnoy takes over Maiden's setlists, this was realistically as good as it could get. One of my best Maiden shows ever!
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« Reply #1729 on: March 17, 2018, 11:51:36 AM »
Ahhhh, yes.  This is the great stuff.  To me, If Eternity Should Fail is up there in terms of my favorite opening songs of an album (others include Alter Bridge's Cry of Achilles and Queen's One Vision).  I didn't think a 92 minute album would fly by so fast on first listen, but Iron Maiden did just that.  If Eternity Should Fail, The Book of Souls, Empire of the Clouds.  Those tracks flew by insanely fast.  One thing I read on TvTropes.org when they talked about The Book of Souls album is that apparently at the 6:58 mark of Empire of the Clouds, they stated that the riff sounds like Morse code that states SOS which makes sense given the context of the song.  Was that part intentional?  That's amazing if it was.

Anyway, I checked the live stream of Wacken in 2016.  It was tremendous.  Good crowd, Maiden played great.  You wouldn't think a festival crowd would do the "climb like a monkey" dance during Death or Glory, but they did.  I also noted that Bruce came out with a luchador mask during Powerslave and I was like, "That's pretty odd, but I'm not complaining."

Anywho, great writing Mosh throughout covering 40+ years of Iron Maiden history.  Not that long now until their next tour begins and the next chapter of the band will be written.  It's still pretty exciting to this day to follow Iron Maiden and they give us a lot of reasons to be excited about as well.

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« Reply #1730 on: March 17, 2018, 11:57:09 AM »
This has been a fantastic discography thread not only because of the wealth of information presented by the OP but for me, personally, because I didn’t have to spend a dime on new music!

In the years between The Final Frontier and The Book of Souls I greatly expanded my own music horizons by digging deep into various prog bands old and new. (Read:  I’ve spent a ton of $$$ on music the past two years) As a result my music listening has been more focused on other styles as of late but I listened to The Book of Souls from the perspective of a long-time fan of the band who can enjoy the music for what it is. My only real complaint is the production but since most of the reunion era CD’s have sounded similar this was not new.

As I wrote previously, I bought the deluxe edition of the album days before it was available on line. In this day and age of music being downloaded electronically I find it remarkable that they would even consider this kind of packaging.
 
I find both CD’s listenable from start to finish with only "When the River Runs Deep" and “The Man of Sorrows" being slightly less interesting than the others. The rest is really pretty good. To me it has all of the ingredients of the kind of Iron Maiden album that they’ve been making in the reunion era. “Comfort” music.

It ranks number one of the reunion era albums in terms of minutes of music I like mostly owing to it being a double album.

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« Reply #1731 on: March 18, 2018, 02:20:31 AM »
Thank you so much for writing this thread. Has been absolutely terrific.  :)

The Book Of Souls is a mixed bag for me. I really enjoy Bruce and Adrian's songs (but wish they'd cut the outro of IESF - makes absolutely no sense).

Man of Sorrows is one of my favourites (but not quite as good as Bruce's song of the same name). Tears of a Clown i really like.

The title track is so epic and the three guitar harmonies just before the end has such energy and you can hear all three so well. Fantastic moment. The lyrics really bother me, though. They either don't fit or just sound unfinished on this song. Really, really clunky. Spoils the mood for me completely and i almost never listen to it for that reason.

The energetic vibe is captured so well across the record. It just sounds great. So immediate and fresh. I would LOVE it if DT could manage similar.

However, all other tracks I barely ever play. Just too familiar, i think. The Red And The Black annoys me intensely. Sounds like Steve made a jigsaw puzzle track from his previous songs and just stuck it together - right down to the whoa whoa whoas...

So yeah - a mix for me. Still delighted they're putting out records of this quality but is my least listened to reunion album. Will try and create and edited version on Spotify and see if that gives me more goodness, i think.
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« Reply #1732 on: March 18, 2018, 06:36:20 PM »
Mosh, awesome job. As a lifelong Maiden fan, you've lead a very thoughtful and complete discussion. Your passion for Iron Maiden rings through. Your efforts are much appreciated.



DoctorAction, your post is interesting because I agree on your point about the album as a whole, but completely disagree in the song choices.

I made an abridged TBOS CD and left off Tears, Man, and DoG, and it flows much better. I love TRATB, especially the live version.

The Title Track and Empire Of The Clouds are two of the Reunion's best tracks, but overall, this album doesn't touch the previous ones.




The Live Chapter is a great live album. So glad they included The Great Unknown.
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« Reply #1733 on: March 18, 2018, 07:35:09 PM »
And the combo of Blood brothers and Wasted years at the end is probably the best Maiden closer ever. I got very emotional every time.

I have to agree with this.  When I saw them, I couldn't believe how well this worked.  I had all tingly feelings inside too.
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« Reply #1734 on: March 19, 2018, 06:20:01 AM »
I was skeptical about it when I first saw the set list. But it was fantastic, truly touching.

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« Reply #1735 on: March 19, 2018, 06:51:11 AM »

DoctorAction, your post is interesting because I agree on your point about the album as a whole, but completely disagree in the song choices.

I made an abridged TBOS CD and left off Tears, Man, and DoG, and it flows much better. I love TRATB, especially the live version.

The Title Track and Empire Of The Clouds are two of the Reunion's best tracks, but overall, this album doesn't touch the previous ones.

 :lol It never ceases to fascinate me how close yet different people's impressions of the same thing are. Especially with a shared love of something. I guess that's what keeps us coming back to forums like this. Just what ARE those tiny details that click the happy switches in my brain but not in yours? And what would that say about us as individuals?

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I think the only song I'd leave off if I was forced to would be Tears.
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« Reply #1737 on: March 20, 2018, 05:59:53 AM »
I love Man of Sorrows. It's one of the more original and interesting tracks on the album, and has some fantastic guitar work on it. I'm not sure what I'd leave off a single-disc version of the album, but Man of Sorrows would be a definite keeper.
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« Reply #1738 on: March 20, 2018, 06:04:00 AM »
Alternative scenario: Empire of the Clouds is deemed too ambitious and too daring for Maiden, and Bruce saves it for his solo album.

Without the need for a double album anymore, how would you rearrange the tracklist? I'd go:

01 If Eternity Should Fail
02 Speed of Light
03 The Great Unknown
04 When the River Runs Deep
05 The Red and the Black
06 Death or Glory
07 Shadows of the Valley
08 Tears of a Clown
09 Man of Sorrows
10 The Book of Souls

It's essentially the same order, but without Empire I think that the title track is a worthy closer of the album, just as it closes disc one. And I moved of one place The Red and the Black for better pacing of the long songs.
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« Reply #1739 on: March 20, 2018, 07:12:00 AM »
I love Man of Sorrows. It's one of the more original and interesting tracks on the album, and has some fantastic guitar work on it. I'm not sure what I'd leave off a single-disc version of the album, but Man of Sorrows would be a definite keeper.

Totally this! Very different for Maiden, this song to me has a very "Fates Warning" vibe which I love.
This album is the second best IMO from the reunion (My faves: AMoLaD > TBoS > BNW > DoD >... TFF) and I think, for a double album, it has tremendous consistency. Maybe I think Shadows of the Valley is a bit weaker from the batch, but still this song has a lot of cool moments, like the intro and the solos. Empire of the Clouds is a incredible song, almost perfect for my ears and sooo different for Maiden, even for an epic, really cool!
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« Reply #1740 on: March 20, 2018, 08:25:01 AM »
Thanks for the kind words everyone. This thread has been a pleasure. Expect a short recap next week.

Now that we are onto the next album cycle, I guess I can end my self-imposed rage boycott of the thread after page 48.  :lol 

I thought you were a fan of The Final Frontier? Or am I missing something.

Oh, I love it!  Favorite Maiden album.  But some of the things in the write-up just sent me over the edge.  :lol

I love Man of Sorrows. It's one of the more original and interesting tracks on the album, and has some fantastic guitar work on it. I'm not sure what I'd leave off a single-disc version of the album, but Man of Sorrows would be a definite keeper.

Totally this! Very different for Maiden, this song to me has a very "Fates Warning" vibe which I love.

I don't get a Fates vibe at all.  To me, even before the vocals, it just screams Maiden to me.  But it is always interesting to see what others hear in songs.  I sometimes also make connections between different band vibes and sounds that seem obvious to me that others do not hear.  :dunno:

EDIT:  You know, I kinda DO get a Fates vibe from the end of the song now that you mention it.  I doubt I would have made that connection if you hadn't mentioned it, but I do kind of hear it now in that part of the song.
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« Reply #1741 on: March 20, 2018, 11:08:06 AM »
Cool, Bosk. For sure Maiden is a primary influence to Fates, not the contrary. Although The Man of Sorrows has that typical Murray feel in songwritting, IMO it just happens to sound a bit like Fates from Through Different Eyes's intro or The Road Goes on Forever's guitars harmonies. Another song from Maiden that I get a lot of a Fates vibe is in The Thin Line Beetween Love & Hate, begginning at 5:15.
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 Maybe he was talking about the IM song?
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« Reply #1743 on: March 21, 2018, 07:38:52 AM »
Thank you Mosh for some awesome write ups.  I would see these posts and kind of hold off because I would want to spend time and look forward to reading each post (hence my delays to share my feelings till usually a few days later).  Sucks we have reached our current point in time because I enjoyed following this so much.  Anyway...

I remember Iron Maiden shared a Holiday card online that looked like Eddie was in the studio.  It was a huge surprise as any new album talk was very very quiet, and it was strangely still quiet for awhile after that, but we found out why with the Bruce diagnosis.  Bruce continues to defy the odds.  He's a huge inspiration to many and overcoming cancer and coming back with such energy and force was amazing to see.  Bringing the bigger Ed Force One around was one of the coolest things at that time.  The album is great IMO.  Not their best of the reunion era, but a really strong album and just continues to show how great of a band they continue to be while keeping their old school sound a bit and still breaking new barriers.  Empire of the Clouds was never my favorite track on the album, but there's no denying that it's a monster song.   I always felt this album had a bit more of a Bruce solo style to it, obviously with IESF, but also with Empire and Tears and WTRRD. 

I was lucky enough to catch them four times on the tour.  First being on the first leg at a sold out Madison Square Garden. We had front row in the top balcony section of the garden.  Even with the fan club presale, I couldn't get the floor seats for this so we settled for up there for the better view.  We both were fairly disappointing in not being up close as we had been accustomed to.  It was still an awesome show.  I didn't know the setlist so Powerslave seemed like a real surprise (you can see our reactions in the video  :lol ) and that encore really through me off.  The sound was really poor this show which was easily the worst part, but otherwise it was a sick stage show and setlist.  I really had a good time.

Then they announced a second leg of the US.  Coming to NJ first and then coming back to Brooklyn to end the tour.  I managed to get the floor GA tickets for both shows, and once the Brooklyn show sold out, they added a second night and final show of the whole tour.  I got a floor ticket for that as well. 

For the NJ show, I won the first to the barrier fan club contest.  This was really cool, and we hung out on the separate entrance line with a bunch of other really hardcore IM fans.  I got there about 4 hours before doors opened and maybe needed another 4 hours to actually be on the barrier, but none the less, I was the closest I had ever been.  Another superb performance.  I must say the worst thing about being so close is that after 6 hours of waiting for IM, I really had to go to the bathroom and I finally broke towards the end of the setlist and just watched the rest from the back.  Although I was the closest I had been, I would rate this as my least favorite of the 4 shows.  It just felt like another show, the MSG show was special, it was the only show anywhere close so there was a lot of energy.  The NJ show was relatively dead for a crowd (not surprising for the NJ crowd).  Not a bad concert by any means, but it was clearly not my favorite of the tour.

A month later and Iron Maiden were back for back 2 back sold out nights at the Barclay Center in Brooklyn where IM had never played before.  This was maybe the best back 2 back same concert experience I have ever had.  There was no setlist change between the two nights, but both nights were spectacular for their own reasons.  The first night up close in the pit and almost everyone near me was foreign, from Europe.  Lots of Polish people actually that I met.  There was a different type of energy in this pit than I had seen before.  I really think it was because of the foreign influence.  The crowd was really rockin and into the show.  IM sounded so good and I just had a total blast.  The next night was a lot of fun as well, met up with some DTFers for beers beforehand.  Bruce stripped to his undies during Wasted Years throwing his clothes and boots into the crowd.  It was unlike anything I had ever seen.  From surviving cancer to ending a massive world tour in your boxers, Bruce is the man.

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« Reply #1744 on: March 21, 2018, 10:10:43 AM »
I was at that second Barclay's show; I've seen Bruce too many times to count, including as an opening act back in '82, a headliner in the heyday, to a festival act in the reunion years, and that was as good as I've seen him.   So much energy, but he still delivered on the basics, sounding great!  It was infectious, too, because you could see it in the band as the show went on. 

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I was having a hard time placing TBOS in the overall discography until now. Listening to everything in order has helped to cement my thoughts on where TBOS fits in Maiden's large catalog. The album has also been out long enough that the excitement of new Maiden has died down a bit. I don't think it's better than AMOLAD or TFF, but it's a notch above Brave New World and is at the same standard of quality I've come to expect from the band today. The only thing that keeps me from putting it on the level of the previous two albums is that it feels like the first album since Dance of Death to have filler. One thing I liked about the previous two albums is that every single song seemed to have a function on the album to create a single entity. Sure there where weaker tracks like The Pilgrim and The Man Who Would Be King, but they fit in really well in context of the album. On TBOS there are a couple songs that aren't as strong and don't really do anything for me on the album. Shadows of the Valley in particular is by far the weakest song the band has done since Dance of Death.

That being said, and this really speaks to the high quality of Maiden's recent output, that's really the only thing keeping the album from being rated as highly as the previous two. There's some really great stuff on here and I think this album has something for every Maiden fan. There are rockers, epics, and mid tempo pieces. Bruce Dickinson is by far the MVP of the album. His vocals are a huge improvement on The Final Frontier and his contributions are immense. Empire of the Clouds lived up to the impossible expectations and If Eternity Should Fail is quite possibly the best opener to a Maiden album ever. Even on songs he didn't write, like The Book of Souls and Tears of a Clown, he turns in a fantastic performance.

One thing that has really struck me lately is how many parallels there are to Powerslave. Both are the only Maiden albums to contain two Dickinson penned tracks, both have a song that set the record for longest Maiden track, and then there's the ancient civilization themes (the Mayans for TBOS and the Egyptians for Powerslave). This album also sees the return of the Smith/Dickinson duo writing the more accessible straightforward tracks, a partnership that really peaked on Powerslave. This album also has a similar balance of straightforward rockers, epics, and instrumentally driven songs. Old school fans have clamored for a return to the "classic" Maiden sound and I really think TBOS comes as close to that as anything since the 80s.

I got to see Maiden twice on this tour, both are probably the best Maiden shows I've seen. The performance, the stage production, and the setlist were all top tier Maiden. Incredible shows. The setlist is the closest they've come to perfection. Perfect balance of new material, "hits", and deeper cuts. Not to mention a great flow.
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Re: Iron Maiden Discography Thread: The Book Of Souls (2015 - 17)
« Reply #1746 on: March 23, 2018, 03:21:01 AM »
Wow, we've finally reached "the end"! Haven't got much to add to other posts here except that the Book of Souls was a very nice present from the band, so late in its life. I thought it was a very solid, well rounded album and for a band to come up with an epic track like 'Empire of the clouds' at this point in its carreer is really amazing. And it finally gave me the opportunity (after some thirty years) to see the band live! Kudos to Mosh for these write-ups. I look forward to any new projects you will start up.   :metal Up the Irons!
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Re: Iron Maiden Discography Thread: The Book Of Souls (2015 - 17)
« Reply #1747 on: March 25, 2018, 05:55:52 PM »
Reflection/The Future of Iron Maiden

This was a behemoth. Thanks again to everyone for following along with the entire thread, leaving nice comments, and adding their own insightful contributions to this discussion. Initially I was only going to focus on the studio albums with small entries on tours and side projects, but as I got deeper into it I wanted to make sure that this thread was as exhaustive as possible. As I said in the beginning of the thread, Iron Maiden is my favorite band and I wanted to do their discography justice by covering as many elements of their recorded and live history as possible. My favorite discography thread on this forum is still the first one, Orbert’s Yes discography, so I used that as a model and wanted the Iron Maiden thread to live up to that. While a lot of the thread came from my own knowledge of the band, it became an all encompassing Maiden research project once I got more into the details of tours, side projects, and other supplemental material. I ended up learning a lot myself, especially when it comes to their tendencies as a live band. In total, the document I used had 143 pages, about 88 individual entries, and 81,000 words. As I mentioned earlier, this thread also helped me solidify my opinions on each album and where they sit in the overall discography for me. For those who are curious, here’s how I would rank the Maiden albums. The top 2 and bottom 2 are set in stone, but other than that a lot of it is interchangeable. Call me a fanboy, but 3 through 12 are incredibly close in quality for me.

1: Piece of Mind
2: A Matter of Life and Death
3: Seventh Son of a Seventh Son
4: Powerslave
5: The Final Frontier
6: Somewhere In Time
7: The Book of Souls
8: Brave New World
9: Killers
10: The Number of the Beast
11: The X Factor
12: Iron Maiden
13: Dance of Death
14: No Prayer for the Dying
15: Virtual XI
16: Fear of the Dark

Also, since polls of random songs seems to be a thing here now, I decided to add one to this thread to close things out. It’s a random selection of lesser known songs without any fan favorites or cult classics. Feel free to comment on your own album rankings and favorites. Or anything else, I'm open to a free for all Maiden discussion at this point. 

Hopefully this isn’t the thread’s last entry. Obviously The Legacy Of the Beast tour starts in a couple months and there will certainly be a recap of that here, but I am holding out hope for one more Maiden album. Frankly, I felt that the band’s attitude in interviews during the TBOS cycle was hinting at them going back to the studio right after the conclusion of the tour. Now that they seem to be booked for the next two years, I am starting to doubt that there will be another album. I hope to be proven wrong though. Another British Lion album seems like a certainty and I know most fans really want to hear what Bruce Dickinson has been working on. There are also plenty of archival and live releases that still need to see the light of day.

Thanks again to everyone who followed along and contributed. This was a ton of fun and I hope y’all enjoyed it as much as I did.

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Re: Iron Maiden Discography Thread: Recap
« Reply #1748 on: March 25, 2018, 06:09:08 PM »
1. Number of the Beast
2. Piece of Mind
3. Iron Maiden
4. A Matter of Life and Death
5. Powerslave
6. Seventh Son of a Seventh Son
7. The X Factor
8. Killers
9. The Final Frontier
10. Book of Souls
11. Somewhere In Time
12. Brave New World
13. Fear of the Dark
14. No Prayer For the Dying
15. Virtual XI


To this day, Dance of Death is the only Iron Maiden album I have not heard, so I did not include it.  I do hope to remedy that in the near future.
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Re: Iron Maiden Discography Thread: Recap
« Reply #1749 on: March 25, 2018, 06:24:49 PM »
To this day, Dance of Death is the only Iron Maiden album I have not heard, so I did not include it.  I do hope to remedy that in the near future.

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