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What kind of album would you like DT14 to be?

Progressive (IAW, Awake, SDOIT, SFAM)
133 (54.3%)
Heavy (TOT, SC)
67 (27.3%)
Melodic (8VM, DT12, TA)
17 (6.9%)
Epic-Orchestral (BC&SL, ADTOE, WDADU)
10 (4.1%)
Light (FII)
18 (7.3%)

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Offline KevShmev

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Re: What kind of album would you like DT14 to be?
« Reply #490 on: May 28, 2018, 01:01:45 PM »
I want DT14 to be a move away from the gothic sounds, the melodramatic epic orchestral stuff, the dark and stormy riffs, the predictable vocal lines, etc... I don't care for the overall ambiance of the 2010s albums compared to the 2000s. The last two albums have felt like one long ballad with lots of crazy instrumental stuff in between.

DT12 is part of one long ballad? :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

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Re: What kind of album would you like DT14 to be?
« Reply #491 on: May 28, 2018, 06:30:29 PM »
I want half of it to sound like Extreme’s “waiting for the punchline” album
 and “III sides to every story”.  I want to hear JP with Raw sounding guitars. 


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Re: What kind of album would you like DT14 to be?
« Reply #492 on: May 28, 2018, 06:32:03 PM »
I want half of it to sound like Extreme’s “waiting for the punchline” album
 and “III sides to every story”.  I want to hear JP with Raw sounding guitars.

Fun thing is, Mangini actually played on that album  ;D
It sounds like, "ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk." Instead of the more pleasing kick drum sound of, "gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk."

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Re: What kind of album would you like DT14 to be?
« Reply #493 on: May 29, 2018, 11:38:54 AM »
Now, once we estabilished that there are ways to continue the story.... do we all agree they shouldn't at all?  :lol

I don't agree.  I think they should tread very carefully, but if JP is so inclined (which I don't think he is) and can figure out a way to do it well, I'm all for it.  They definitely should not do it just for the sake of doing it, though.
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Re: What kind of album would you like DT14 to be?
« Reply #494 on: May 29, 2018, 12:22:24 PM »
THEY ARE SPYING US!!!!!!

DT just posted on FB this very question, basically copying and pasting the title thread and the four poll options!

I ACTUALLY feel honored that DT posted a thread started by me on their facebook page. 
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One of their guys was actually emailing me last week to ask for my thoughts.  Unfortunately, I was in Mexico and didn't have access to email, so I didn't see it.  As a result, they went with basically your poll.  But that was a great choice to start things off, and I might have suggested something similar had I been here anyway.
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Re: What kind of album would you like DT14 to be?
« Reply #495 on: May 29, 2018, 12:27:48 PM »
I want half of it to sound like Extreme’s “waiting for the punchline” album
 and “III sides to every story”.  I want to hear JP with Raw sounding guitars.

Fun thing is, Mangini actually played on that album  ;D

No he didn't.  Mangini played on 3 songs from the album after III Sides, Waiting For The Punchline.  He also toured for that album.
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Re: What kind of album would you like DT14 to be?
« Reply #496 on: May 29, 2018, 01:39:22 PM »
I want half of it to sound like Extreme’s “waiting for the punchline” album
 and “III sides to every story”.  I want to hear JP with Raw sounding guitars.

Fun thing is, Mangini actually played on that album  ;D

No he didn't.  Mangini played on 3 songs from the album after III Sides, Waiting For The Punchline.  He also toured for that album.

Yeah, I know he's only on 3 songs, but he still played on the album, right? :tup
It sounds like, "ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk." Instead of the more pleasing kick drum sound of, "gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk."

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Re: What kind of album would you like DT14 to be?
« Reply #497 on: May 29, 2018, 01:46:59 PM »
Waiting For the Punchline, yes.   I saw that tour in Boston.   Little did we know, they were calling it quits after the tour and during the song "No Regrets", a song Mangini played on they destroyed their equipment akin to The Who.  The place went nuts!
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Re: What kind of album would you like DT14 to be?
« Reply #498 on: June 20, 2018, 01:16:23 PM »
From my point off view, i like DT at their most experimental (SDOIT for example) so i would really love them to get together and make a record without any pre-conceived idea. Something organic and spontaneous, and collaborative.

Actually, they did have a very well preconceived idea before making what ended up being SDoIT, though they changed it afterwards after JP and Mike went to see Pantera which inspired them to do at least TGP (and apparently they did experiment from there on in the rest of the album).. I just read it in Rich Wilson's biography, where Portnoy also tells this fun fact about it:

"...we were on the 2000 tour in Europe and Jordan, John Petrucci and I were on a plane discussing plans to make the album some sort of World Music album, but still keeping it Dream Theater. What we were going to do was that each song would represent the style or flavor of a different country. And we would incorporate these different styles or sounds, keys, modes, scales or rhythms and try to do different things in a World Music sort of progressive metal way. We did take a couple of those Master classes and learned some different, weird African rhythms and it was interesting. The biggest irony is that when John and I were out on the G3 tour in 2001 [when they had already decided not to do it like that] Steve Vai's "Alive in an Ultra World" comes out and the concept behind that album is exactly what we were going to do! So it worked out good that we ended up abandoning that idea."

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basically since MP left each record has felt like it had a preconceived theme or idea. ADTOE was the "classic" DT album, DT was the "short song structure with an epic at the end" album and TA obviously was very pre-planned.

I kind of disagree.. MP himself has been precisely the guy that wanted to have eveything "directed" beforehand, and most of the albums with him have been preconceived in that aspect... well, at least since Metropolis pt 2, from which they really started deciding the direction of each album.. Except SDoIT and maybe SC, in the rest of the albums within that period they already knew more or less what the album would sound like before start writing it..

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Re: What kind of album would you like DT14 to be?
« Reply #499 on: June 20, 2018, 02:35:27 PM »
Actually, they did have a very well preconceived idea before making what ended up being SDoIT, though they changed it afterwards after JP and Mike went to see Pantera which inspired them to do at least TGP (and apparently they did experiment from there on in the rest of the album).. I just read it in Rich Wilson's biography, where Portnoy also tells this fun fact about it:

"...we were on the 2000 tour in Europe and Jordan, John Petrucci and I were on a plane discussing plans to make the album some sort of World Music album, but still keeping it Dream Theater. What we were going to do was that each song would represent the style or flavor of a different country. And we would incorporate these different styles or sounds, keys, modes, scales or rhythms and try to do different things in a World Music sort of progressive metal way. We did take a couple of those Master classes and learned some different, weird African rhythms and it was interesting. The biggest irony is that when John and I were out on the G3 tour in 2001 [when they had already decided not to do it like that] Steve Vai's "Alive in an Ultra World" comes out and the concept behind that album is exactly what we were going to do! So it worked out good that we ended up abandoning that idea."

(http://www.mikeportnoy.com/aboutmike/faq/answers/13.aspx)

And Mike Mangini also played on that album (all tracks except one) :tup
It sounds like, "ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk." Instead of the more pleasing kick drum sound of, "gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk."