Mike Portnoy's "Prog Metal" supergroup: Sons of Apollo

[Podaar]

Surprisingly, I really like the two SoA songs on YT. I didn't have any expectations, and both songs had some surprises that I dug.

I really like the fretless guitar bit in Coming Home. The bass was fat and groovy too. It's not a fantastic tune but I think it's a good "single". Signs of the Time makes me really interested in hearing the rest of the album. Very cool song and hearing Derek's lead patches again is like welcoming home and old friend. The guitar work great and impressive...if just a bit noodly toward the end of the solo.

I like JSS voice too.

Oh and, of course, Portnoy's drums are familiar, comfortable and professional. I assume we'll need to wait for the album to hear something with more of MP's flair.

Sorry about going off topic.

[Lynxo]

Surprisingly, I really like the two SoA songs on YT. I didn't have any expectations, and both songs had some surprises that I dug.

I really like the fretless guitar bit in Coming Home. The bass was fat and groovy too. It's not a fantastic tune but I think it's a good "single". Signs of the Time makes me really interested in hearing the rest of the album. Very cool song and hearing Derek's lead patches again is like welcoming home and old friend. The guitar work great and impressive...if just a bit noodly toward the end of the solo.

I like JSS voice too.

Oh and, of course, Portnoy's drums are familiar, comfortable and professional. I assume we'll need to wait for the album to hear something with more of MP's flair.

Exactly this, I've quite enjoyed the two tunes released so far.

Sorry about going off topic.

[MinistroRaven]

Guys who here has the capability of doing an interview?
There’s a chance to interview Derek Sherinian on Thursday 28th on the last spot.
If you are a reviewer or a journalist or have a blog and have done something like this in the past send me the info requested in the image below and once I get the confirmation from the PR I will let you know.
I would do it on my own but can’t as tonite I am departing with my family to Colombia and I don’t know if I will be completely settled for the 28th.

Anyone?

[Stadler]

Speculating on who hates who is fruitless when you don't have the whole picture. Just sayin'.

Trust me, THAT argument isn't going to go anywhere.  ;0 

[Lowdz]

Surprisingly, I really like the two SoA songs on YT. I didn't have any expectations, and both songs had some surprises that I dug.

I really like the fretless guitar bit in Coming Home. The bass was fat and groovy too. It's not a fantastic tune but I think it's a good "single". Signs of the Time makes me really interested in hearing the rest of the album. Very cool song and hearing Derek's lead patches again is like welcoming home and old friend. The guitar work great and impressive...if just a bit noodly toward the end of the solo.

I like JSS voice too.

Oh and, of course, Portnoy's drums are familiar, comfortable and professional. I assume we'll need to wait for the album to hear something with more of MP's flair.

Sorry about going off topic.

I suppose we have fallen into judging an album by the 'singles'. DTs choice of single was never a great gauge of the rest of the album. Rite of Passage, On The Backs of Angels, Constant Motion. No great prog classics there.

[RodrigoAltaf]

Guys who here has the capability of doing an interview?
There’s a chance to interview Derek Sherinian on Thursday 28th on the last spot.
If you are a reviewer or a journalist or have a blog and have done something like this in the past send me the info requested in the image below and once I get the confirmation from the PR I will let you know.
I would do it on my own but can’t as tonite I am departing with my family to Colombia and I don’t know if I will be completely settled for the 28th.

Anyone?

I could do it. I'm a reviewer of Whiplash website

[MinistroRaven]

I just PM you Rodrigo

[Orbert]

Sorry about going off topic.

[MinistroRaven]

Trying to love the album, not for what it is, but for how it was sold to us, as a prog metal album by the Kings of Prog and the ones reclaiming the throne but, well... I don’t know...

[gzarruk]

Trying to love the album, not for what it is, but for how it was sold to us, as a prog metal album by the Kings of Prog and the ones reclaiming the throne but, well... I don’t know...

Would really appreciate it if you could write a small review (or just some thoughts) after your listen.

[MinistroRaven]

I posted the same picture of the album being played here at the MP forum and they removed it? WTF?

[Mindflux]

I posted the same picture of the album being played here at the MP forum and they removed it? WTF?

Leads to too many questions. Are you supposed to have tracks nobody else has heard yet? Are you a reviewer? Did you break any review embargos? etc etc etc etc.

[rumborak]

Yeah, I must confess I am a bit bewildered too. The album is supposed to come out in October. I mean, we all know these things leak, but parading it around on a forum is maybe a bit questionable.

[MinistroRaven]

[MinistroRaven]

Yeah, I must confess I am a bit bewildered too. The album is supposed to come out in October. I mean, we all know these things leak, but parading it around on a forum is maybe a bit questionable.

Another user posted a similar photo, and his wasn't removed. That's why I posted it there.

[MinistroRaven]

I am done with MP and his forum and his balls lickers

[ariich]

Maybe that Joel guy made it more clear that it was a promo copy by talking about his upcoming review?

[Nick]

I know that Portnoy either knows Joel, or at the very least knows of Joel, so it's possible he knew he had a legit copy.

[MinistroRaven]

Maybe that Joel guy made it more clear that it was a promo copy by talking about his upcoming review?

frankly, I don't care anymore, my comment asking why it was removed was removed too.
I got the album from the label too, for review purposes, also because me and some friends have a radio show and they will airplay it when it is released, (currently SoT and CH are in rotation). I am helping the label to accomodate interviews with Derek and Mike so, I got it officially too.
But as I said, I just don't care anymore.
I am done with MP and the guys behind his forum

[MinistroRaven]

I have a LEGIT copy too

[cramx3]

Joel is in the know I believe.  I found him from watching concerts on youtube (specifally ProgPower) and found out he is actually part of the team and is an official photographer/videographer.  I dont know him or anything, just something I've gathered since I've seen his name a lot.  I'm going to guess MP (or MP's extended crew) know who he is and that he has a legit copy whereas they may not know that about you (even if the copy is legit, which I believe you).  I'm just guessing.

[MinistroRaven]

Joel is in the know I believe.  I found him from watching concerts on youtube (specifally ProgPower) and found out he is actually part of the team and is an official photographer/videographer.  I dont know him or anything, just something I've gathered since I've seen his name a lot.  I'm going to guess MP (or MP's extended crew) know who he is and that he has a legit copy whereas they may not know that about you (even if the copy is legit, which I believe you).  I'm just guessing.

OK, let's assume you are right, they don't know me and they don't know I got a legit copy. The album hasn't leaked, the tracking info and the artwork has been officially released, what harm does a picture like the one I posted does?

[Hourglass Prison]

Joel is in the know I believe.  I found him from watching concerts on youtube (specifally ProgPower) and found out he is actually part of the team and is an official photographer/videographer.  I dont know him or anything, just something I've gathered since I've seen his name a lot.  I'm going to guess MP (or MP's extended crew) know who he is and that he has a legit copy whereas they may not know that about you (even if the copy is legit, which I believe you).  I'm just guessing.

OK, let's assume you are right, they don't know me and they don't know I got a legit copy. The album hasn't leaked, the tracking info and the artwork has been officially released, what harm does a picture like the one I posted does?

My first thought was that maybe because you had the track length in your pic, I didn't know that info had already been released.
Why was it removed? Beats me.

[Grappler]

Joel is in the know I believe.  I found him from watching concerts on youtube (specifally ProgPower) and found out he is actually part of the team and is an official photographer/videographer.  I dont know him or anything, just something I've gathered since I've seen his name a lot.  I'm going to guess MP (or MP's extended crew) know who he is and that he has a legit copy whereas they may not know that about you (even if the copy is legit, which I believe you).  I'm just guessing.

OK, let's assume you are right, they don't know me and they don't know I got a legit copy. The album hasn't leaked, the tracking info and the artwork has been officially released, what harm does a picture like the one I posted does?

Some musicians don't like when any unapproved info is released prior to the official release date, and they can moderate how they see fit.  If they want to prohibit discussion of the unreleased tracks, that is their choice.  So by deleting your picture, they are avoiding the inevitable "how did you get this?  Is it pirated?  Give us some info, man discussions.'

In addition, I'd guess that many artists also frown upon people bragging about having something prior to the release date via a promo copy.  Write your review, do your promo work and don't brag about it on their official forum (or even unofficial forums).  Show the artist a little courtesy, maybe?

[MinistroRaven]

Joel is in the know I believe.  I found him from watching concerts on youtube (specifally ProgPower) and found out he is actually part of the team and is an official photographer/videographer.  I dont know him or anything, just something I've gathered since I've seen his name a lot.  I'm going to guess MP (or MP's extended crew) know who he is and that he has a legit copy whereas they may not know that about you (even if the copy is legit, which I believe you).  I'm just guessing.

OK, let's assume you are right, they don't know me and they don't know I got a legit copy. The album hasn't leaked, the tracking info and the artwork has been officially released, what harm does a picture like the one I posted does?

My first thought was that maybe because you had the track length in your pic, I didn't know that info had already been released.
Why was it removed? Beats me.

Track lenght is already disclosed:

Here: https://www.insideoutshop.de/Item/Sons_Of_Apollo_-_Psychotic_Symphony_-Ltd-_2CD_Mediabook-/16367

Or here: https://itunes.apple.com/ve/album/psychotic-symphony/id1267878801?app=itunes&ign-mpt=uo%3D4

Or here: https://play.google.com/store/music/album/Sons_Of_Apollo_Psychotic_Symphony?id=Bufza2xjkqkdwljgyacw3mb67tq

[The Walrus]

I for one welcome our new #ProgGod overlords

[Skeever]

Why do we talk so much about what gets censored at other forums/social media groups here???

DTF is unaffiliated with that. Seems impossible to actually keep tabs on any news or discussion when this thing goes on for pages and pages regarding the silliest issues.

[MinistroRaven]

Why do we talk so much about what gets censored at other forums/social media groups here???

DTF is unaffiliated with that. Seems impossible to actually keep tabs on any news or discussion when this thing goes on for pages and pages regarding the silliest issues.

That's what we do here most of the time in fact

[emtee]

Ministro you went from one of MP's biggest supporters and promoters to one of his seeming enemies in about 2 weeks flat. Not
sure how that happened but I feel bad for you. You traveled a long ways to see many shows and were a true super-fan.

[Samsara]

Question for the mods -- any chance we can get a new thread for Sons of Apollo that is intended to discuss the album news/reviews and music, as opposed to MP vs. DT, DS' tweets, and all the drama? I am looking forward to the record, but I swear, wading through all the bullshit in this thread is a chore and honestly, its not all that productive. Just a request. If not, no worries. Thanks for what all the mods do to keep things civil around here.

[Hourglass Prison]

I for one welcome our new #ProgGod overlords

lol

[Skeever]

Question for the mods -- any chance we can get a new thread for Sons of Apollo that is intended to discuss the album news/reviews and music, as opposed to MP vs. DT, DS' tweets, and all the drama? I am looking forward to the record, but I swear, wading through all the bullshit in this thread is a chore and honestly, its not all that productive. Just a request. If not, no worries. Thanks for what all the mods do to keep things civil around here.

I kinda agree along these lines. I don't mind people discussing the MP forums/facebook/twitter fiascos, because let's face it, it is directly relevant and impactful to a lot of the people here, such as Minstro and others who have come from MP.com. But as someone who is still slightly interested in this band, it's funny to see several new pages every day and yet exactly no actual news.

[MinistroRaven]

Ministro you went from one of MP's biggest supporters and promoters to one of his seeming enemies in about 2 weeks flat. Not
sure how that happened but I feel bad for you. You traveled a long ways to see many shows and were a true super-fan.

I'll PM you later, I don't want to continue what others called drama around this thread.

[bill1971]

Ministro you went from one of MP's biggest supporters and promoters to one of his seeming enemies in about 2 weeks flat. Not
sure how that happened but I feel bad for you. You traveled a long ways to see many shows and were a true super-fan.

I'll PM you later, I don't want to continue what others called drama around this thread.

No please do. I am curious too.

[Stadler]

Question for the mods -- any chance we can get a new thread for Sons of Apollo that is intended to discuss the album news/reviews and music, as opposed to MP vs. DT, DS' tweets, and all the drama? I am looking forward to the record, but I swear, wading through all the bullshit in this thread is a chore and honestly, its not all that productive. Just a request. If not, no worries. Thanks for what all the mods do to keep things civil around here.

I kinda agree along these lines. I don't mind people discussing the MP forums/facebook/twitter fiascos, because let's face it, it is directly relevant and impactful to a lot of the people here, such as Minstro and others who have come from MP.com. But as someone who is still slightly interested in this band, it's funny to see several new pages every day and yet exactly no actual news.

That's not really the posters' fault though, is it?   There isn't any new music at this point, and so it isn't as if these posts are taking the spot of what would otherwise be deep music analysis.  Plus, I genuinely feel bad for MR as well, and would be interested to hear more about why the abrupt about-face.