2017 NFL thread v. Patriots Dynasty

[Destiny Of Chaos]

Agreed. What Gronk did was much more dangerous than what Talib and Crabtree pulled last week.

[Rattlehead]

He apologized though, so that makes it ok  To me it's not even debatable, he should be suspended for 1 game at the very least. You can't let him get away with that garbage.

[King Postwhore]

Apology doesn't mean it's okay dude. He just knows that he was a f****** moron.

[Rattlehead]

I don't think Gronk is a bad guy by any means. He seems like a good guy and is obviously a hell of a player. The league needs to suspend him for at least 1 game to set an example though, that kind of crap should not be tolerated in the slightest.

[El Barto]

The league has already set its example.



In a normal world I'd be agreeing with you guys. The NFL hardly qualifies, though, and if he gets suspended after all of the other bullshit we've seen this year it'll be yet another example of how ridiculous things have gotten. Hell, you can check a ref with your forearm and not get suspended in this league.

[TAC]

So if he's suspended it'll be for two reasons.

1. It was a head shot
2. It was a white guy on a black guy*


* So here's why I say this. The NFL has been meeting with black players over social issues, and I do not think they'll risk the tweetstorm of letting a white guy off on nailing a black guy. I just think the NFL will be so PR conscious over this and its (racial) appearance.



Personally, I'm on the fence as far as the suspension, but I think it's ridiculous that he was not ejected.

[KevShmev]

Attacking a guy on the ground from behind in the head is worse than grabbing a guy by the throat and giving a half-shove.

We'll see how much the league really cares about concussions with how they punish Gronk.  He should get multiple games to show that they are serious. 

[El Barto]

Attacking a guy on the ground from behind in the head is worse than grabbing a guy by the throat and giving a half-shove.

We'll see how much the league really cares about concussions with how they punish Gronk.  He should get multiple games to show that they are serious.

I think your bias is showing.

That probably does deserve a game, but with the way the league works now it would be bullshit if it happened.

[KevShmev]

Oh, my bias is showing, but the bias here of Patriots fans, whom you did not feel the need to call out, is not?  Okay.

[King Postwhore]

Who me? Kev, he let his emotions get in the way.  His apology shows that he's human. Doesn't mean he's wrong. He's going to get it's fine he's not getting suspended.

[TAC]

Kev, I feel he should've been ejected immediately and definitely fined. I'm on the fence on him being suspended, but would not complain or call it a travesty if he was.

[KevShmev]

Joe, you don't think a player attacking another player on the ground in the head from behind and giving him a concussion is going to get a suspension? 

[TAC]

(puts out the call)

(responds)

Damn, the Homie Pats Fan Call is just as strong as the Power Windows Call!

[Destiny Of Chaos]

Attacking a guy on the ground from behind in the head is worse than grabbing a guy by the throat and giving a half-shove.

We'll see how much the league really cares about concussions with how they punish Gronk.  He should get multiple games to show that they are serious.

I think your bias is showing.

That probably does deserve a game, but with the way the league works now it would be bullshit if it happened.

How is his bias showing? His take on this would most likely be exactly the same if Gronk were a Bronco. He was unbiased in his take on the Talib/Crabtree mess last week.

[El Barto]

I'll reiterate that I think he's deserving. I just also think it'd be unbelievable hypocrisy given what doesn't warrant one nowadays. Hell, you're allowed to bump referees in this league now, FFS.

I got the impression that his bell was rung when he went down, not when gronk landed on him.

[El Barto]

Also, considering how we're reminded every single time the Patriots are the beneficiaries of bad calls by the refs, how many PIs and holds happened on that play that didn't get called? Three? Four? That happens to Buffalo this game and we all know it'd be pointed out.

[King Postwhore]

Joe, you don't think a player attacking another player on the ground in the head from behind and giving him a concussion is going to get a suspension?

Let's not get soft Kev. This  s*** happened forever. Now all of a sudden concussions  are serious business. Was he wrong one hundred percent yes.  Will he be fined? Yes. Will he get suspended? Probably not. Will hw get suspended for a game? I'm not sure. . NFL so uneven that I have no idea what's right or wrong when it comes to their penalties.

[KevShmev]

How is his bias showing? His take on this would most likely be exactly the same if Gronk were a Bronco. He was unbiased in his take on the Talib/Crabtree mess last week.

Thank you. At least someone is paying attention. 

Also, considering how we're reminded every single time the Patriots are the beneficiaries of bad calls by the refs, how many PIs and holds happened on that play that didn't get called? Three? Four? That happens to Buffalo this game and we all know it'd be pointed out.

Irrelevant.

Let's not get soft Kev. This  s*** happened forever. Now all of a sudden concussions  are serious business. Was he wrong one hundred percent yes.  Will hw be fined? Yes. Will he get suspended? Probably not. Wil hw get suspended for game? I'm not sure. . NFL so uneven that I have no idea what's right or wrong when it comes to their penalties.

That is why it should be a multiple-game suspension.  Many of us believe the NFL is giving lip service about their sudden care about concussions, and if they give Gronk a slap on the wrist (which is what a fine is), that is showing that it really is just lip service.  Trust me, the many players and families of players greatly affected by concussions due to hits in the NFL will be playing close attention to this situation.  The NFL has to come down, and come down hard.

[El Barto]

Also, considering how we're reminded every single time the Patriots are the beneficiaries of bad calls by the refs, how many PIs and holds happened on that play that didn't get called? Three? Four? That happens to Buffalo this game and we all know it'd be pointed out.

Irrelevant.

Yeah, no doubt.

[King Postwhore]

Let's not get carried away Kev. Gronk's emotions got  in the way and he did something stupid but it shouldn't be multiple games. First-time offense should not be multiple suspension. I find yes maybe one game maybe? but not multiple let's not get carried away.

This is the end result when people get mugged and then then they don't call anything and players take things into your own hands. NFL has to do a better job officiating not to let things get to this position. Players are dumb and you and I know it.  The NFL needs to do a better job officiating not to let it get to this point.

[Rattlehead]

The league has already set its example.

*snip*

In a normal world I'd be agreeing with you guys. The NFL hardly qualifies, though, and if he gets suspended after all of the other bullshit we've seen this year it'll be yet another example of how ridiculous things have gotten. Hell, you can check a ref with your forearm and not get suspended in this league.

That's a really good point. I was equally as disgusted when I saw Suh grab Mallet's throat earlier this year. Gronk deserves a suspension for what he did, but I can't expect this joke of a league to actually do it. He'll just get a slap on the wrist fine so the league can continue to pretend like they care about player safety.

[King Postwhore]

Btw, Kev. If he's suspended for a week than  Pats fans should not be upset. He needs to control hid emotions in check.

[Destiny Of Chaos]

I guess I'm really an Eagles fan. My stomach is in knots after that drive, 4th down conversion and Wentz fumble

[Destiny Of Chaos]

That was an incredible drive by Wentz. What a gamer.

[KevShmev]

Even if it is in a losing effort, that throw by Wentz was the play of the year.  Holy smokes.

[jammindude]

 

[dparrott]

Seahawks baby woooo!!!

[Destiny Of Chaos]

Losses suck, but there was a lot of good to take out of this one. So no 15-1. No biggie, still plenty to be excited for.
Bring on the Rams!

[Cool Chris]

Surprised the Hawks manned up on this one, even considering they usually play well on Sunday nights. Most local radio honks didn't have the Hawks winning.

@ JAX, LAR, @ DAL still on the schedule, not easy going down the home stretch.

[dparrott]

Tonight's game gives me hope for the Rams and Raiders v. Eagles.  Eagles had pretty easy opponents up to now.

[Architeuthis]

Joe, you don't think a player attacking another player on the ground in the head from behind and giving him a concussion is going to get a suspension?

Let's not get soft Kev. This  s*** happened forever. Now all of a sudden concussions  are serious business. Was he wrong one hundred percent yes.  Will he be fined? Yes. Will he get suspended? Probably not. Will hw get suspended for a game? I'm not sure. . NFL so uneven that I have no idea what's right or wrong when it comes to their penalties.

Funny how Gronk will likely get a slap on the wrist while Zeke is suspended 6 games for something there was no proof of and is evidently innocent. Gronk was caught on hd camera for intentionally hurting someone and being a douche..
 On a better note, WAY TO GO SEAHAWKS!!!

[King Postwhore]

You forgetting Brady's suspension?

Gronk will get a game.

[KevShmev]

I saw Gronk's "apology" this morning.  What a joke.  He gave the token, emotionless apology and then ranted about his frustration about the alleged non-calls. Sounded like a guy giving reasons why he slapped his wife. "What else was I supposed to do?" (Gronk actually said that)

[King Postwhore]

He may have cost him the Pittsburgh game for all the marbles.  Dumb, dumb move.

[kaos2900]

Gronk being suspended would be amazing for my fantasy team.