2017 NFL thread v. Patriots Dynasty

[PowerSlave]

The Steelers posted on Facebook earlier that Ben is the only QB in NFL history with 3 TD's longer than 94 yards. It kind of made sense the more I thought about it considering how bad they are in the red zone. If ya can't score up close, you might as well take it as far as you can the other way.

[KevShmev]

My cousin told me that he bet money on the Jets plus the points tonight against the Bills, and his logic for the bet was really sound:

"I just can't see the Bills being good enough to be 6-2."

Three hours later...Jets 34, Bills 14. 

DeShaun Watson just blew out his ACL in practice.

Awful. Hate to see a great young talent like this get hurt.

[King Postwhore]

Thanks Jets!

[KevShmev]

I'm convinced that ST coaches are the dumbest coaches in any sport.  Any kickoff into the end zone should NEVER be brought out; kneel in the end zone every single time.

I don't know the percentages, but I'll bet at least 75% of them don't make it back to the 25, and I've lost track of how many times I've seen a team start inside the 10 because the returner brought it out of the end zone and then a hold or block in the back occurred.

How are professional coaches this stupid?

[Destiny Of Chaos]

I don't always change teams. But when I do HOLY SHIT

[KevShmev]

See ya back on the field in a few weeks, AJ Green (unless the NFL shows once again that they have no balls).

The MVP is now Wentz's to lose. He is tearing the Broncos no fly zone to shreds.

[pogoowner]

I'm convinced that ST coaches are the dumbest coaches in any sport.  Any kickoff into the end zone should NEVER be brought out; kneel in the end zone every single time.

I don't know the percentages, but I'll bet at least 75% of them don't make it back to the 25, and I've lost track of how many times I've seen a team start inside the 10 because the returner brought it out of the end zone and then a hold or block in the back occurred.

How are professional coaches this stupid?

I've seen the stats. There is no benefit to bringing it out. It's something that's driven me nuts for years now.

[El Barto]

See ya back on the field in a few weeks, AJ Green (unless the NFL shows once again that they have no balls).

Holy shit. 

I actually thought Suh's was far worse, and he walked, but the NFL makes shit up as they go. They'll probably suspend Green for 6 weeks and the guy he choked for 10. Who the hell knows anymore.

[Destiny Of Chaos]

Mike Evans with a messed up cheap shot as well

[TheCountOfNYC]

I'm convinced that ST coaches are the dumbest coaches in any sport.  Any kickoff into the end zone should NEVER be brought out; kneel in the end zone every single time.

I don't know the percentages, but I'll bet at least 75% of them don't make it back to the 25, and I've lost track of how many times I've seen a team start inside the 10 because the returner brought it out of the end zone and then a hold or block in the back occurred.

How are professional coaches this stupid?

I've seen the stats. There is no benefit to bringing it out. It's something that's driven me nuts for years now.

Unless you're Deion Sanders or Devin Hester, you should never bring the ball out of the end zone if you're more than two yards back.

[black_biff_stadler]

[pogoowner]

Fighting in at least 3 games today. 3 players ejected in the AZ/SF game. Interesting week.

[Destiny Of Chaos]

Another great finish unfolding in Seattle

[KevShmev]

I love seeing the Seattle D blow a game at the end. 

 

[Dream Team]

I don't always change teams. But when I do HOLY SHIT

No love for the Browns? 😉 They probably could use some new fans. But I can certainly see why you picked Philly.

[KevShmev]

The next month will tell us a lot about Philly.  Three of their four games are on the road at:

Dallas
Seattle
LA Rams

[Stadler]

The Steelers posted on Facebook earlier that Ben is the only QB in NFL history with 3 TD's longer than 94 yards. It kind of made sense the more I thought about it considering how bad they are in the red zone. If ya can't score up close, you might as well take it as far as you can the other way.

So how many have three TD's longer than 93 yards?  Seems like an odd, random number.       (And no, not ragging on Ben; I have nothing bad to say about his play on the field.)

[King Postwhore]

The next month will tell us a lot about Philly.  Three of their four games are on the road at:

Dallas
Seattle
LA Rams

It's weird to see the Rams in that group but they've played lights out and turned it around that quick.

Makes me happy to know Jeff Fisher sucks. Though I know they added pieces this year as well.

[El Barto]

The Steelers posted on Facebook earlier that Ben is the only QB in NFL history with 3 TD's longer than 94 yards. It kind of made sense the more I thought about it considering how bad they are in the red zone. If ya can't score up close, you might as well take it as far as you can the other way.

So how many have three TD's longer than 93 yards?  Seems like an odd, random number.   

That always cracks me up. It's like being ranked in the top 103 of something.

[PowerSlave]

The Steelers posted on Facebook earlier that Ben is the only QB in NFL history with 3 TD's longer than 94 yards. It kind of made sense the more I thought about it considering how bad they are in the red zone. If ya can't score up close, you might as well take it as far as you can the other way.

So how many have three TD's longer than 93 yards?  Seems like an odd, random number.       (And no, not ragging on Ben; I have nothing bad to say about his play on the field.)

Oh, trust me. It was the pr for the team cherry picking stats. It's still impressive, but I completely agree that the 94 yard deal is an odd one.

I know that it looks like I've been ragging on my team a lot as of late, but I'm a dedicated fan. I know that they have great potential, and it gets frustrating watching them flounder at times.

[Nick]

Niners fan checking in after a long absence from the thread... what a year...

I truly don't believe the Niners are as bad as their 0-9 record would suggest. Five games have been within 3 points, and all could have easily gone the other way. We've been devastated by injuries, and even after this abysmal season has dragged on we still put up a good fight yesterday. I really do think we could be 4-5 with a rerun from the start of the season.

The bright side is we weren't making the playoffs this year anyway, so hopefully this causes a bit of a breather and reset. Get everyone some playing time, cement the system, and be ready to come out hard next year. I think the new coach and GM and their moves will start clicking a lot better next year as things develop, and hopefully after we spend some extra cash on the O-line.

[CrimsonSunrise]

The NFC race in the second half will be very interesting.  Most of the contenders have a tough run coming up.  The field could get even more muddied.

Rams - Vikings, Eagles, Seahawks, Saints

Vikings - Skins (who have beaten the Rams and Hawks), Rams, Panthers, Falcons

Eagles - Rams, Seahawks, Dallas x2, Raiders

Saints - Skins, Rams, Panthers, Falcons x2

Seahawks - Eagles, Rams, Jaguars, Falcons, Dallas

[mike099]

The AFC south could end up being determined by the last game of the season.  Jacksonville at Tennessee.

[black_biff_stadler]

The NFC race in the second half will be very interesting.  Most of the contenders have a tough run coming up.  The field could get even more muddied.

Saints - Skins, Rams, Panthers, Falcons x2

The Falcons need to win more games until I'd lump them into the "opponents to be wary of" category. They came close against Carolina yesterday but, until they can win consecutive games again, I doubt they present a real threat plus their little brother complex due to the Saints' utter dominance of them in the Brees/Payton era could really creep back into their heads if they aren't careful.

[Dublagent66]

Well, to be fair, the Falcons were the "opponents to be wary of" last year until the Pats stole that title away from them in the SB.  As far as I'm concerned, Atlanta needs to win a SB to re-gain that title.

[King Postwhore]

Pats didn't steal it, they made Atlanta pee their jock straps.

[Destiny Of Chaos]

As things stand now... the NFC race is worlds more exciting than the AFC.

AFC has 3 SB contenders, New England, Pittsburgh & Kansas City, in that order.

The following teams could wind up winning the NFC: Seattle, Philadelphia, Dallas, Los Angeles, New Orleans, Carolina and maybe Minnesota, Atlanta, Washington or Detroit.

The crazy thing is, of the 6 NFC teams I mentioned (not including the maybes) they're all not even making the playoffs, where if they were in the AFC, they'd be locks.

[TAC]

As things stand now... the NFC race is worlds more exciting than the AFC.

AFC has 3 SB contenders, New England, Pittsburgh & Kansas City, in that order.

The following teams could wind up winning the NFC: Seattle, Philadelphia, Dallas, Los Angeles, New Orleans, Carolina and maybe Minnesota, Atlanta, Washington or Detroit.

The crazy thing is, of the 6 NFC teams I mentioned (not including the maybes) they're all not even making the playoffs, where if they were in the AFC, they'd be locks.

DOC, do you seriously think Minnesota, Washington, or Detroit could come out of the NFC? No chance. I'm not counting out the others you listed, but those three will be long gone by the time the SB comes around.

[Destiny Of Chaos]

As things stand now... the NFC race is worlds more exciting than the AFC.

AFC has 3 SB contenders, New England, Pittsburgh & Kansas City, in that order.

The following teams could wind up winning the NFC: Seattle, Philadelphia, Dallas, Los Angeles, New Orleans, Carolina and maybe Minnesota, Atlanta, Washington or Detroit.

The crazy thing is, of the 6 NFC teams I mentioned (not including the maybes) they're all not even making the playoffs, where if they were in the AFC, they'd be locks.

DOC, do you seriously think Minnesota, Washington, or Detroit could come out of the NFC? No chance. I'm not counting out the others you listed, but those three will be long gone by the time the SB comes around.

I give them an outside chance at best. But Any of them could go on a run. Who knows?

[TAC]

Yup. Outside. Outside of the SB.

[El Barto]

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/21318091/nfl-suspend-aj-green-cincinnati-bengals-fighting

If Bob McNair really wasn't talking about the players he damn well should have been. The inmates are running the asylum.

There's a different story that Jalon Ramsay had to be restrained by stadium security while trying to get into the Bengals lockerroom to smash AJ Green's face in.

In other discipline news, I read an in depth article about the Ezekiel Elliot situation and learned a couple of things. For one, the lawyers that the league hired to investigate the alleged assaults actually recommended against disciplinary action. It seems the girl was actually less credible than him. More interesting to me, though, is that the players actually have a markedly improved legal situation right now, which will be gone once he loses his appeal (and he will lose his appeal). The most recent ruling is on the basis that the league's arbitration and appellate policy had to actually be fair. This was not the case and probably won't be once that ruling is tossed. He'd actually be doing both his team and the rest of the players a solid by dropping his appeals right now. The players will have better legal standing and the Cowboys will have him back for the playoffs.

[KevShmev]

Post-Week 9 Power Rankings

Top 10
1. Philadelphia - firing on all cylinders
2. Pittsburgh - will the inevitable Tomlin-era letdowns happen?
3. New England - slowly getting better, as always
4. LA Rams - youngest coach in the league will be the Coach of the Year
5. New Orleans - 6 wins in a row!
6. Seattle - inconsistency is a bit puzzling, but they will be a team no one wants to play in January
7. Dallas - clicking at the right time, but will Elliot's suspension finally kick in?
8. Jacksonville - even Bortles is playing well (for him)
9. Carolina - defense is back to being studly
10. Minnesota - win will a depleted division, but their upside is limited

NFL MVP Top 5
1. Carson Wentz - what's scary is this guy will keep getting better
2. Tom Brady - deflation
3. LeVeon Bell - needs to be the focal point down the stretch
4. Todd Gurley - what a difference a year makes
5. Alex Smith - slipping back to being his usual self

[RoeDent]

On the NFL radio show here in the UK last night, they posed an interesting question that I thought I would put to the forum:

After Sports Illustrated correctly predicted in 2014 that the 2017 World Series champions would be the Houston Astros, who will be the Super Bowl winners for the 2020 season?

Personally I'm feeling it will be the Chiefs or the Falcons. They're knocking on the door already, though Atlanta's loss at last year's Bowl might have knocked them back a year.

[Dublagent66]

Pats didn't steal it, they made Atlanta pee their jock straps.

   Yeah, they also shit themselves.

[TAC]

On the NFL radio show here in the UK last night, they posed an interesting question that I thought I would put to the forum:

After Sports Illustrated correctly predicted in 2014 that the 2017 World Series champions would be the Houston Astros, who will be the Super Bowl winners for the 2020 season?

Personally I'm feeling it will be the Chiefs or the Falcons. They're knocking on the door already, though Atlanta's loss at last year's Bowl might have knocked them back a year.

In three years?  I'd say the Eagles. What do you think Alex Smith will look like in three years?