Author Topic: The Ocean Official Thread (Read 7310 times)

Luoto · « **Reply #35 on:** September 05, 2018, 12:45:36 PM »

Quote from: Buddyhunter1 on September 05, 2018, 11:22:25 AM

Anyways, with how much I loved that record, I've tried checking their other stuff out several times and each time I've been really disappointed. Neither part of Precambrian did anything for me, and Heliocentric just felt like a bunch of dry, sterile, mid-tempo nothingness. I'm still going to check out the new record when it comes out, but this song just sounded like more Heliocentric to me. If it's actually supposed to be about the Permian-Triassic extinction event, basically the most apocalyptic event in the history of the planet so far, why does it sound so reserved? What happened to the earth-shattering emotion and heaviness of the last two songs on Pelagial? *Those* songs sound like the entire fucking world is ending. Wouldn't that have been so fitting for a concept like this?

I'm sort of in the same boat as you, Pelagial was the first album I heard and it's absolutely their best. But instead of thinking it's a fluke, I view it as a creative peak that is likely to result in higher quality than albums prior to Pelagial. As for Permian being like Heliocentric, the melody lines are far too big for it to be a legit comparison. It sounds more like a cross of Pelagial and Precambrian (Proterozoic), and at this point I'm perfectly fine with that. I'll reflect on why it seems relatively uplifting compared to the lyrical theme once I've heard the full album (heck, we even have a II coming up).

Buddyhunter1 · « **Reply #36 on:** September 05, 2018, 02:00:45 PM »

Quote from: Luoto on September 05, 2018, 12:45:36 PM

But instead of thinking it's a fluke, I view it as a creative peak that is likely to result in higher quality than albums prior to Pelagial.

Yeah, I'm hoping for that too. This single doesn't have me all that optimistic, but hey, singles often aren't among the best songs on their respective albums so anything could happen.

Crow · « **Reply #37 on:** September 05, 2018, 07:23:18 PM »

i will say that on first listen it isn't blowing me away but it seems solid

Luoto · « **Reply #38 on:** September 09, 2018, 05:12:02 AM »

Quote from: Luoto on September 05, 2018, 12:45:36 PM

I'll reflect on why it seems relatively uplifting compared to the lyrical theme once I've heard the full album (heck, we even have a II coming up).

I didn't even have to wait that long for Robin Staps to shed some light on this: human point of view. At points of the song the lyrics could be interpreted as Earth talking to humanity, how it would "kill to relieve a load". But it hasn't quite happened yet.

Luoto · « **Reply #39 on:** October 02, 2018, 10:16:03 AM »

Devonian: Nascent

I have a feeling some people are going to like the familiar voice of... (clickbait)

Crow · « **Reply #40 on:** October 02, 2018, 10:48:26 AM »

Im at work

Train of Naught · « **Reply #41 on:** October 02, 2018, 10:52:28 AM »

I got super excited when I was told who was singing on this track the first time, but when I heard it thought the guest spot doesn't add much, actually sounded very similar to Loïc from what I remember to the point where the guest spot seemed kinda useless.

Great track though

Shadow Ninja 2.0 · « **Reply #42 on:** October 02, 2018, 11:06:31 AM »

I'm really not sure about this album so far. The last song was pretty good, particularly vocally, but nothing mindblowing. And this one is the same, only without the great vocals. Musically everything feels very plodding, although I will say the section at around 7:00 on this one is pretty cool.

I don't know. Maybe Robin should write all the albums like instrumentals and then have Loic add vocals after. Maybe that's the magic of Pelagial. I guess I should have expected this when Robin described this album as picking up where Precambrian left off, since Precambrian is by and large not very good. At least the vocals will be better this time.

I don't know, I'm not trying to be negative. I still love the band and I'll buy this regardless, but from the very first bit of Pelagial you could tell it was something special, and I'm just really not getting that sense here.

Also, Jonas Renkse?

Train of Naught · « **Reply #43 on:** October 05, 2018, 08:20:51 AM »

Interesting, Precambrian is probably my favourite by them and arguably the fan favourite. But of course that's what happens when a band releases something as special as Pelagial, the fanbase gets divided a bit more while before that they were mostly sludgy and posty rather than proggy.

Quote from: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on October 02, 2018, 11:06:31 AM

I don't know. Maybe Robin should write all the albums like instrumentals and then have Loic add vocals after.

I never asked about Phanerozoic specifically but I am pretty sure this is still the case, buuut they will be doing an AMA on Reddit (/r/progmetal) very soon (currently planned on the 11th) so if you want to ask anything directly to the bandmembers it's the perfect opportunity to find out

Luoto · « **Reply #44 on:** November 03, 2018, 09:51:15 AM »

So the new album is pretty damn close to exactly what I expected. Robin Staps's significant development as a songwriter makes this easily their second best behind Pelagial, and the occasional Precambrian-isms work really well (direct reference to Cryogenian being the most obvious). Tracks 5 and 6 need to grow on me more but otherwise this is brilliant.

EDIT: The Cryogenian musical theme is actually reprised throughout the album. Here's a pretty in-depth album review discussing it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noCvkDVXos0

Buddyhunter1 · « **Reply #45 on:** November 22, 2018, 08:00:10 PM »

So this album ended up being a lot better than I expected.

Luoto · « **Reply #46 on:** January 11, 2020, 04:40:24 PM »

Came across this not-so-recent interview by The Metal Tris: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybUf8ErWW-U

Phanerozoic II (already mixed) will cover both Mesozoic and Cenozoic eras on double vinyl, so I'm expecting over an hour of new music.

Buddyhunter1 · « **Reply #47 on:** January 11, 2020, 06:25:01 PM »

Nice. The first part was quite good, so I'm looking forward to this.

Train of Naught · « **Reply #48 on:** January 12, 2020, 02:12:09 AM »

Evermind · « **Reply #49 on:** January 12, 2020, 05:30:14 AM »

The trailer of the first single's music video (the one about the Mesozoic era) is already up btw

Crow · « **Reply #50 on:** January 12, 2020, 10:48:49 AM »

Train of Naught · « **Reply #51 on:** July 01, 2020, 12:27:51 AM »

So the new monster 13 and a half minute lead single (ft. Renkse) just dropped, thoughts? It's been tough to keep my mouth shut about this one, but I really think they outdid themselves on this song

ariich · « **Reply #52 on:** July 01, 2020, 01:52:37 AM »

I totally hadn't twigged there was a new Ocean album coming at all, that's great! Not sure I'll listen to the single, I like to just immerse myself in their music so I'll probably wait for the album!

Luoto · « **Reply #53 on:** July 01, 2020, 02:53:33 AM »

Yeah, that is fantastic. Those people who wanted some brutality into describing an extinction event now got it.

Tracklist:

1. Triassic
2. Jurassic | Cretaceous (13:24)
3. Palaeocene
4. Eocene
5. Oligocene
6. Miocene | Pliocene
7. Pleistocene
8. Holocene

Release on September 25th

Buddyhunter1 · « **Reply #54 on:** July 01, 2020, 09:01:23 AM »

what the FUCK

why is this so good

Shadow Ninja 2.0 · « **Reply #55 on:** July 01, 2020, 09:07:49 AM »

Man, I just can't really get into The Ocean's new stuff. Too much like the Precambrian sound for me, although obviously the vocals are much better. Just gonna sit around until they go back to the Anthropocentric/Pelagial sound, I guess.

Luoto · « **Reply #56 on:** July 01, 2020, 02:18:07 PM »

Quote from: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on July 01, 2020, 09:07:49 AM

Too much like the Precambrian sound for me, although obviously the vocals are much better. Just gonna sit around until they go back to the Anthropocentric/Pelagial sound, I guess.

And here's me thinking Anthropocentric is closer to Precambrian than anything after it

There are obviously significant differences between the two, but the heavier moments have quite similar riffing. Even though the Phanerozoic project is a spiritual successor to Precambrian, most of the composition is quite different in terms of melody and structure.

Buddyhunter1 · « **Reply #57 on:** July 01, 2020, 02:26:07 PM »

I'm also not really seeing the close sound link between Pelagial and Anthropocentric - Pelagial is very much its own thing and stands far above everything else they've ever done, imo

Shadow Ninja 2.0 · « **Reply #58 on:** July 01, 2020, 02:30:27 PM »

Maybe it's a function of the band or the production. I don't know exactly how to describe it but Anthropocentric/Pelagial have a really big, open sound, whereas Precambrian and what I've heard from the new one I can't spell feels very confined to me.

Maybe I just miss the Swiss guys, I don't know. I agree that Pelagial is by far their best, though.

Buddyhunter1 · « **Reply #59 on:** July 01, 2020, 02:38:18 PM »

Their last album sounded pretty big and open to me, especially songs like Nascent and The Age Of Sea Scorpions

twosuitsluke · « **Reply #60 on:** July 01, 2020, 03:05:01 PM »

Commencing listen now

Edit: I liked that more than anything on the last album.

The Realm · « **Reply #61 on:** July 01, 2020, 05:30:08 PM »

Love this new song. Awesome band, looking forward to the album.

krands85 · « **Reply #62 on:** July 01, 2020, 06:26:05 PM »

I only listen to them occasionally, but I really liked that new song

LordCost · « **Reply #63 on:** July 03, 2020, 06:01:14 AM »

New single has some moments sounding a lot like Tool, and I didn't like it. I am tired of those riffs after hearing them for the whole length of Fear Inoculum. It's also the first time I hear a clear influence of another band in one of their songs.

Apart from that, I liked the song, but it's not at the level of some tracks of part 1

Luoto · « **Reply #64 on:** July 03, 2020, 10:10:24 AM »

Quote from: LordCost on July 03, 2020, 06:01:14 AM

New single has some moments sounding a lot like Tool, and I didn't like it. I am tired of those riffs after hearing them for the whole length of Fear Inoculum. It's also the first time I hear a clear influence of another band in one of their songs.

How much control do we have over what we wish for?

When I heard that for the first time I was like "that's a pretty Tool kind of thing".

LordCost · « **Reply #65 on:** July 03, 2020, 11:53:39 AM »

Quote from: Luoto on July 03, 2020, 10:10:24 AM

Quote from: LordCost on July 03, 2020, 06:01:14 AM
New single has some moments sounding a lot like Tool, and I didn't like it. I am tired of those riffs after hearing them for the whole length of Fear Inoculum. It's also the first time I hear a clear influence of another band in one of their songs.

How much control do we have over what we wish for?

When I heard that for the first time I was like "that's a pretty Tool kind of thing".

I never felt it honestly, I realized it now that you me

Buddyhunter1 · « **Reply #66 on:** July 03, 2020, 02:32:50 PM »

The Wish In Dreams always struck me as being very Mastodon-eque.

Lethean · « **Reply #67 on:** July 03, 2020, 03:02:58 PM »

So, can you buy this one song without preordering the whole album...or do you have to wait until it's released and then buy the one song?

Buddyhunter1 · « **Reply #68 on:** July 03, 2020, 03:04:36 PM »

Quote from: Lethean on July 03, 2020, 03:02:58 PM

So, can you buy this one song without preordering the whole album...or do you have to wait until it's released and then buy the one song?

https://theocean.bandcamp.com/track/jurassic-cretaceous

Buy the whole album, Katatonia fanboy.

Lethean · « **Reply #69 on:** July 03, 2020, 04:43:24 PM »

But here's the thing. I find the screamer guy to be really annoying. I think Devonian Nascent is an awesome song and I like it musically even after Jonas' part is done, and I do listen to the whole song. But I barely tolerate him and I sampled a few other songs back when that came out and felt the same. But admittedly, I don't know much about the band at all, so I suppose I could stand to listen to a few more.

News: Track-by-track video for Paralyzed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fd5TbGbalPs&feature=youtu.be

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