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Re: MP's Shattered Fortress Tour
« Reply #1085 on: June 26, 2017, 04:09:24 PM »
Being cool with JP and JP wanting him back are two entirely different things.  JP has embraced the role of undisputed band leader and I dont see him ever relinquishing that.  Not that that is a bad thing.
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Re: MP's Shattered Fortress Tour
« Reply #1086 on: June 26, 2017, 04:12:42 PM »
So he is implying he is only on bad terms with one person in the band, and in the continuation of his sentence then says they choose to continue as they are.  Since it's the same sentance (or written thought) it seems to me that MP sees a relationship between the one person he has not made up with and the band continuing as they are.
How does his implying that he hasn't patched up things with one of the guys equate to this unnamed person being the only thing holding the band back from MP rejoining the band? I'm sorry, but that's just silly to read that interpretation into what is a pretty cut and dry statement. If that were the case, there would be no issue and MP would already be back in the band. As Tim said, JL does not call the shots in the band - JP does.

So what's stopping JP from saying the fact that JLB and MP don't get along is a reason for him to not rejoin.  I think I already explained myself though.  I don't personally believe any of that, just that his wording makes me feel MP believes that and his statement is definitely not cut and dry.  It's two thoughts combined into one statement hence why, to me, it implies a relation as I explained.

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« Reply #1087 on: June 26, 2017, 04:23:36 PM »
I don't personally believe any of that, just that his wording makes me feel MP believes that and his statement is definitely not cut and dry.  It's two thoughts combined into one statement hence why, to me, it implies a relation as I explained.
Believe what you want, but as someone who knows them personally, I'm pretty confident that is not the case at all.
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Re: MP's Shattered Fortress Tour
« Reply #1088 on: June 26, 2017, 04:37:09 PM »
I also don't see anything wrong with that statement and I can't understand how you can interpret it as MP blaming the guys.

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« Reply #1089 on: June 26, 2017, 04:40:22 PM »
  I can confirm that he's cool with JP.

That's great news Scott!
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Re: MP's Shattered Fortress Tour
« Reply #1090 on: June 26, 2017, 05:09:45 PM »
I don't personally believe any of that, just that his wording makes me feel MP believes that and his statement is definitely not cut and dry.  It's two thoughts combined into one statement hence why, to me, it implies a relation as I explained.
Believe what you want, but as someone who knows them personally, I'm pretty confident that is not the case at all.

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« Reply #1091 on: June 26, 2017, 05:13:30 PM »
Agreed... why can't we all get along  :metal

Life is too short to not get over their differences IMO

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« Reply #1092 on: June 26, 2017, 05:20:00 PM »
Don't really see the issue with MP's statement. He's been open about having reached out to the guys since he quit, but they're not interested.

He has also trashed them since the split, both directly and passive-aggressively.  Meanwhile, the DT guys have been nothing but classy the entire time.

Would you want someone back who's taken so many shots at you over the years and has a history of holding grudges?

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Re: MP's Shattered Fortress Tour
« Reply #1093 on: June 26, 2017, 07:10:56 PM »
Don't really see the issue with MP's statement. He's been open about having reached out to the guys since he quit, but they're not interested.

He has also trashed them since the split, both directly and passive-aggressively.  Meanwhile, the DT guys have been nothing but classy the entire time.

Would you want someone back who's taken so many shots at you over the years and has a history of holding grudges?

Your last name must be Hammer, because you hit that one on the head.
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« Reply #1094 on: June 26, 2017, 07:19:25 PM »
That's his porn name.

I will always follow Mike and his music but he needs to stop talking about DT.  6 years later he still is and he is solely the reason he is not in the band anymore.
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« Reply #1095 on: June 26, 2017, 09:26:24 PM »
Don't really see the issue with MP's statement. He's been open about having reached out to the guys since he quit, but they're not interested.

He has also trashed them since the split, both directly and passive-aggressively.  Meanwhile, the DT guys have been nothing but classy the entire time.

Would you want someone back who's taken so many shots at you over the years and has a history of holding grudges?

Your last name must be Hammer, because you hit that one on the head.

This.
It sounds like, "ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk." Instead of the more pleasing kick drum sound of, "gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk."

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« Reply #1096 on: June 27, 2017, 06:57:20 AM »
I think it's pretty clear that MP is bitter and there is no doubt in my mind that if asked to come back he'd drop everything to rejoin.

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« Reply #1097 on: June 27, 2017, 07:54:50 AM »
I also don't see anything wrong with that statement and I can't understand how you can interpret it as MP blaming the guys.

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Don't really see the issue with MP's statement. He's been open about having reached out to the guys since he quit, but they're not interested.

He has also trashed them since the split, both directly and passive-aggressively.  Meanwhile, the DT guys have been nothing but classy the entire time.

Would you want someone back who's taken so many shots at you over the years and has a history of holding grudges?

Your last name must be Hammer, because you hit that one on the head.

This.

Agreed.

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Re: MP's Shattered Fortress Tour
« Reply #1098 on: June 27, 2017, 08:00:40 AM »
I do not know who the third person is that he's cool with, but besides JR, I can confirm that he's cool with JP.

As a fan, that makes me happy. Those two were close for so long, it would be absolutely wrong for them to not have been on good terms. Thanks for sharing that, Scott.
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Re: MP's Shattered Fortress Tour
« Reply #1099 on: June 27, 2017, 09:54:40 AM »
I do not know who the third person is that he's cool with, but besides JR, I can confirm that he's cool with JP.

As a fan, that makes me happy. Those two were close for so long, it would be absolutely wrong for them to not have been on good terms. Thanks for sharing that, Scott.

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Re: MP's Shattered Fortress Tour
« Reply #1100 on: June 27, 2017, 11:15:32 AM »
Don't really see the issue with MP's statement. He's been open about having reached out to the guys since he quit, but they're not interested.

He has also trashed them since the split, both directly and passive-aggressively.  Meanwhile, the DT guys have been nothing but classy the entire time.

Would you want someone back who's taken so many shots at you over the years and has a history of holding grudges?

Not at all. I think it's perfectly reasonable that DT wants to continue on as is. I guess my point was just that I think it's pretty much public knowledge at this point that MP had offered to rejoin the band at least once after he quit and was rebuffed, not to mention inviting them to participate in his birthday bash (when it was still a one-off on CttE). It's also pretty obvious if you look at comments anywhere on the internet that there are a decent number of people who wish he was back in Dream Theater. So I don't see the harm in him saying "For all of you that have been posting online for the past 6 years wanting to see me to "go back to DT", unless those guys have a change of heart, it seems this is the closest you are going to get!!" in the process of hyping these Shattered Fortress shows, which is what I thought people were reacting to.
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Re: MP's Shattered Fortress Tour
« Reply #1101 on: June 27, 2017, 11:26:38 AM »
Honestly, I truly doubt MP is talking about rejoining the band in his comments that we're all over analyzing. He's likely talking about a one off reunion show or something along those lines, which DT have (thus far) ruled out.
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« Reply #1102 on: June 27, 2017, 11:30:50 AM »
I think that it's not about what you say, but how you say it. MP is kind of obsessed in being 'open' and authentic with his fans, and that's usually the very reason he ends up being 'misunderstood' and the very reason we're discussing his statement right now. He should just ignore the 'pls come back to DT they NEED YOU' comments the same way the DT guys ignore the 'Mangini SUCKS PLS BRING BACK PORNOY' and stop addressing the issue because people should already move on and accept things the way they are. If you keep talking about it (referring to MP), people will keep bringing it up. Does it inflate MP's ego to know that some people quit entirely on DT because he's not there anymore? I would say it kinda does, but I could be wrong. What other reason would he have to keep bringing it up?

Every time the internet seems to be calm with the MP/DT stuff the man seems to always come back to the same crap he's being saying for the past 7 years. In what way is it beneficial to anyone to let the people on the internet know that he's 'fine' with 3 of the DT guys? People are gonna assume the fourth one he's not ok with is LaBrie and they're gonna start hating on him (as per usual) because he's not being 'kind, loving and forgiving' as Portnoy is. Some things should stay just between them, and as someone very wise before me posted: who the hell cares about who's the one he's still not okay with? I know that the diehard fan that all (or most) of us have deep inside would love to know that even though things were rough they all remained in good terms in the end, but that's not the way it works. DT are happy in their current state, and MP screams in every interview and internet post he makes that he's fine and being the most fulfilled and creative he has been in his entire career. Do I believe him? Kinda, but there's more to this than we can see.

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Re: MP's Shattered Fortress Tour
« Reply #1103 on: June 27, 2017, 11:36:25 AM »
Don't really see the issue with MP's statement. He's been open about having reached out to the guys since he quit, but they're not interested.

He has also trashed them since the split, both directly and passive-aggressively.  Meanwhile, the DT guys have been nothing but classy the entire time.

Would you want someone back who's taken so many shots at you over the years and has a history of holding grudges?

Not at all. I think it's perfectly reasonable that DT wants to continue on as is. I guess my point was just that I think it's pretty much public knowledge at this point that MP had offered to rejoin the band at least once after he quit and was rebuffed, not to mention inviting them to participate in his birthday bash (when it was still a one-off on CttE). It's also pretty obvious if you look at comments anywhere on the internet that there are a decent number of people who wish he was back in Dream Theater. So I don't see the harm in him saying "For all of you that have been posting online for the past 6 years wanting to see me to "go back to DT", unless those guys have a change of heart, it seems this is the closest you are going to get!!" in the process of hyping these Shattered Fortress shows, which is what I thought people were reacting to.

Because he quit, then once they already had moved on, committed to MM, who turned his life upside down to join the band, he offered to come back. That's kind of important to note. He made a choice and now makes comments that attempt to shift blame and responsibility for the consequences of his choices on others.  Some people just aren't into that, that's all.

I think that it's not about what you say, but how you say it. MP is kind of obsessed in being 'open' and authentic with his fans, and that's usually the very reason he ends up being 'misunderstood' and the very reason we're discussing his statement right now. He should just ignore the 'pls come back to DT they NEED YOU' comments the same way the DT guys ignore the 'Mangini SUCKS PLS BRING BACK PORNOY' and stop addressing the issue because people should already move on and accept things the way they are. If you keep talking about it (referring to MP), people will keep bringing it up. Does it inflate MP's ego to know that some people quit entirely on DT because he's not there anymore? I would say it kinda does, but I could be wrong. What other reason would he have to keep bringing it up?

Every time the internet seems to be calm with the MP/DT stuff the man seems to always come back to the same crap he's being saying for the past 7 years. In what way is it beneficial to anyone to let the people on the internet know that he's 'fine' with 3 of the DT guys? People are gonna assume the fourth one he's not ok with is LaBrie and they're gonna start hating on him (as per usual) because he's not being 'kind, loving and forgiving' as Portnoy is. Some things should stay just between them, and as someone very wise before me posted: who the hell cares about who's the one he's still not okay with? I know that the diehard fan that all (or most) of us have deep inside would love to know that even though things were rough they all remained in good terms in the end, but that's not the way it works. DT are happy in their current state, and MP screams in every interview and internet post he makes that he's fine and being the most fulfilled and creative he has been in his entire career. Do I believe him? Kinda, but there's more to this than we can see.

Sorry for the long post, folks.

Great post man.

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« Reply #1104 on: June 27, 2017, 12:09:43 PM »
I think that it's not about what you say, but how you say it. MP is kind of obsessed in being 'open' and authentic with his fans, and that's usually the very reason he ends up being 'misunderstood' and the very reason we're discussing his statement right now. He should just ignore the 'pls come back to DT they NEED YOU' comments the same way the DT guys ignore the 'Mangini SUCKS PLS BRING BACK PORNOY' and stop addressing the issue because people should already move on and accept things the way they are. If you keep talking about it (referring to MP), people will keep bringing it up. Does it inflate MP's ego to know that some people quit entirely on DT because he's not there anymore? I would say it kinda does, but I could be wrong. What other reason would he have to keep bringing it up?

Every time the internet seems to be calm with the MP/DT stuff the man seems to always come back to the same crap he's being saying for the past 7 years. In what way is it beneficial to anyone to let the people on the internet know that he's 'fine' with 3 of the DT guys? People are gonna assume the fourth one he's not ok with is LaBrie and they're gonna start hating on him (as per usual) because he's not being 'kind, loving and forgiving' as Portnoy is. Some things should stay just between them, and as someone very wise before me posted: who the hell cares about who's the one he's still not okay with? I know that the diehard fan that all (or most) of us have deep inside would love to know that even though things were rough they all remained in good terms in the end, but that's not the way it works. DT are happy in their current state, and MP screams in every interview and internet post he makes that he's fine and being the most fulfilled and creative he has been in his entire career. Do I believe him? Kinda, but there's more to this than we can see.

Sorry for the long post, folks.

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Re: MP's Shattered Fortress Tour
« Reply #1105 on: June 27, 2017, 12:54:21 PM »
I do not know who the third person is that he's cool with, but besides JR, I can confirm that he's cool with JP.
As a fan, that makes me happy. Those two were close for so long, it would be absolutely wrong for them to not have been on good terms. Thanks for sharing that, Scott.
The third person is Mangini.
Source?
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Re: MP's Shattered Fortress Tour
« Reply #1106 on: June 27, 2017, 01:46:05 PM »
I do not know who the third person is that he's cool with, but besides JR, I can confirm that he's cool with JP.
As a fan, that makes me happy. Those two were close for so long, it would be absolutely wrong for them to not have been on good terms. Thanks for sharing that, Scott.
The third person is Mangini.
Source?

I don't have one, but he said he hasn't heard from "the other two", so...

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Re: MP's Shattered Fortress Tour
« Reply #1107 on: June 27, 2017, 03:37:14 PM »
It'd be super weird if they had Portnoy back on bass and Mangini on drums.

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Re: MP's Shattered Fortress Tour
« Reply #1108 on: June 27, 2017, 03:51:12 PM »
Tried checking out Next To None in preparation for tomorrow, oh dear god Max is obviously a talented drummer but the rest of the band are god Awful!!

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« Reply #1109 on: June 27, 2017, 06:59:25 PM »
I think that it's not about what you say, but how you say it. MP is kind of obsessed in being 'open' and authentic with his fans, and that's usually the very reason he ends up being 'misunderstood' and the very reason we're discussing his statement right now. He should just ignore the 'pls come back to DT they NEED YOU' comments the same way the DT guys ignore the 'Mangini SUCKS PLS BRING BACK PORNOY' and stop addressing the issue because people should already move on and accept things the way they are. If you keep talking about it (referring to MP), people will keep bringing it up. Does it inflate MP's ego to know that some people quit entirely on DT because he's not there anymore? I would say it kinda does, but I could be wrong. What other reason would he have to keep bringing it up?

Every time the internet seems to be calm with the MP/DT stuff the man seems to always come back to the same crap he's being saying for the past 7 years. In what way is it beneficial to anyone to let the people on the internet know that he's 'fine' with 3 of the DT guys? People are gonna assume the fourth one he's not ok with is LaBrie and they're gonna start hating on him (as per usual) because he's not being 'kind, loving and forgiving' as Portnoy is. Some things should stay just between them, and as someone very wise before me posted: who the hell cares about who's the one he's still not okay with? I know that the diehard fan that all (or most) of us have deep inside would love to know that even though things were rough they all remained in good terms in the end, but that's not the way it works. DT are happy in their current state, and MP screams in every interview and internet post he makes that he's fine and being the most fulfilled and creative he has been in his entire career. Do I believe him? Kinda, but there's more to this than we can see.

Sorry for the long post, folks.

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« Reply #1110 on: June 27, 2017, 09:06:16 PM »
So, he has buried the hatchet with JP, but still took a shot at him on FB tonight...


Mike Portnoy The fact of the matter these 5 songs were written about my battle with Alcoholism and addiction...

These 5 songs (as well as the 2 songs I wrote for my parents who have passed away: ACOS & TBOT) are EXTREMELY PERSONAL to me and my life...

If I'm being honest, it pains me to a great deal to see them performed without me....

I'm aware *i left* the band, but I figured there'd be a little human compassion and these ones one would've stayed on the shelf with so many other songs to choose from...

I in a MILLION YEARS would NEVER consider playing "Take Away My Pain", but that's just me...

Anyways, it is what it is...
I don't hold grudges or resentments.
BUT I also don't BS...so I'm just being honest

And these Shattered Fortress shows will be poetic justice and very emotional for me...
I look forward to sharing these moments with you all!

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« Reply #1111 on: June 27, 2017, 09:22:56 PM »
I wonder if MP has actually ever asked JP and co to not play ACOS.

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« Reply #1112 on: June 27, 2017, 09:25:55 PM »
ACOS is one of Dream Theater's most popular songs.  I get that he considers it a very personal song, but how can he really expect the band to not play one of their hits after he chose to leave the band?  That's just a ridiculous notion.   

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« Reply #1113 on: June 27, 2017, 09:48:59 PM »
I think it's already past the time to change the topic's name to "Make fun of MP and whatever he posts HERE!!!!".

I see nothing wrong in telling how you feel about them playing ACOS or whatever. I don't expect DT not to play it, but there is nothing wrong with expressing how he feels about it. Again, you see an "attack" on DT or JP only if you choose to. Maybe MP should keep this kind of stuff to himself? Yes, maybe it would be better. But it doesn't make it absurd to express how he feels.

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« Reply #1114 on: June 27, 2017, 10:04:20 PM »
My guess is he figured they would never play any of those songs without him, otherwise he would have negotiated it when they went through the legal stuff when he left the band.  He probably thought, "I would never play this song or that song if the shoe were on the other foot," and figured they would extend the same courtesy regarding those seven songs, but he was wrong. 

However, hasn't the charm of Dream Theater live always been, "Hey, they have a million songs and there is always a chance that any of them could be played on any given night."  While the band doesn't rotate set lists the way they did for much of the 00s, they have done a tremendous job of playing different stuff from tour to tour with Mangini, and telling them, "You are not allowed to play Song a, b, c, d, e, f and g," would go against the very nature of who and what Dream Theater is.  They probably still feel like they can play just about any song from any of their albums if they feel like it, and you cannot fault them for that.  I do suspect that The Best of Times is the one song they will always feel is off the table.

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« Reply #1115 on: June 27, 2017, 10:07:29 PM »
Yea, I suspect TBOT is always going to be shelved, but they've also never played before MP left.

They've played ACOS a bunch of times. It became a staple at some point, so it isn't weird to assume they'd play it. They played songs about Kevin Moore contemplating leaving the band live, not sure what the big deal is.
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« Reply #1116 on: June 27, 2017, 10:10:20 PM »
So, he has buried the hatchet with JP, but still took a shot at him on FB tonight...


Mike Portnoy The fact of the matter these 5 songs were written about my battle with Alcoholism and addiction...

These 5 songs (as well as the 2 songs I wrote for my parents who have passed away: ACOS & TBOT) are EXTREMELY PERSONAL to me and my life...

If I'm being honest, it pains me to a great deal to see them performed without me....

I'm aware *i left* the band, but I figured there'd be a little human compassion and these ones one would've stayed on the shelf with so many other songs to choose from...

I in a MILLION YEARS would NEVER consider playing "Take Away My Pain", but that's just me...

Anyways, it is what it is...
I don't hold grudges or resentments.
BUT I also don't BS...so I'm just being honest

And these Shattered Fortress shows will be poetic justice and very emotional for me...
I look forward to sharing these moments with you all!

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It sounds like, "ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk." Instead of the more pleasing kick drum sound of, "gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk."

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Re: MP's Shattered Fortress Tour
« Reply #1117 on: June 27, 2017, 10:25:40 PM »
Mike takes songwriting way too personally. I understand writing (and creating art of any kind) can be cathartic, but when it becomes a business endeavor, available for public consumption, that personal "ownership," for lack of a better word, becomes null and void. Mike wants to release personal material under the DT banner, but then control ownership of it. He can't have it both ways. TBOT/ACOS may have personal meaning to him, but if it is on an album available for fans to purchase, they have the right to form their own opinions of them, and the band, in whatever form it exists, has the right to play them. Same thing with HTF. He says he reconciled with the person he wrote it about, so doesn't want to play it live. But to us, the fans, it's a DT song we might want to hear performed. We might even have our own connection to it.

I would still highly consider going see this performance if the chance presented itself. I am able to differentiate the art from the artist. I wish he would be able to as well.
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Re: MP's Shattered Fortress Tour
« Reply #1118 on: June 28, 2017, 12:03:21 AM »
Anyways, it is what it is...
I don't hold grudges or resentments.
BUT I also don't BS...so I'm just being honest

And these Shattered Fortress shows will be poetic justice and very emotional for me...
I look forward to sharing these moments with you all!

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There should be an emoji for "What the?! I don't even..."

MP saying that he doesn't hold grudges or resentments really sums everything up regarding his general attitude.  Does "A special 'no thanks' to Terry Brown" ring a bell?

A while ago he banned all DT discussion on his own forum, meaning he got rid of the single thread where it was even allowed, so now there's nothing.  I remember someone asked why and the moderator said "it's been 6 years, time to let it go and move on" which, again, is ridiculous since he's the one that can't seem to move on.

As for "personal" songs, why is it just cuz someone wrote lyrics the contributions of the other members suddenly mean nothing?  He'll never play TAMP?  When was the last time they even did?  Late 90s?  Early 00s?  Who controlled the setlists all this time?

The saying "you can't write this stuff" works pretty well for MP.  Every time we think that maybe he's done trashing DT he pops back up on the grid.

NB:  I'm really sick and tired of people saying "I'm just being honest" or "I'm just being me and if you don't like it that's your problem" and things along those lines to justify what they're saying.  Just like DarkLord_Lalinc said it's not about what you say but how you say it.  You have to know the context and situation you're in and not just say or do whatever you feel like.

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Re: MP's Shattered Fortress Tour
« Reply #1119 on: June 28, 2017, 01:52:24 AM »
I see his point in a way, but I would understand more his venting if DT had played The Best of Times. There's a lot of difference between a song never played live with direct and very personal references in the lyrics, and a song which is acclaimed since 20 years as one of the ultimate Dream Theater masterpieces, played live many times and always dreamt of for fans' ideal setlists, and with lyrics generic enough (aside from the heavy part of Carpe Diem) to be interpeted in other ways.

By now A Change of Seasons is a "Dream Theater" song, not a Portnoy song, just like Pull Me Under is their "greatest hit" and not a song with lyrics from Kevin Moore.

As someone who has such a fan mindset and knows more than countless musicians what fans want, he should realize how A Change of Seasons belongs to every DT fan by now.
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