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Re: Marvel's Movie/TV Universe v2 (SPOILERS)
« Reply #3395 on: August 22, 2019, 08:46:52 PM »
So no for me bitch! :lol

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Re: Marvel's Movie/TV Universe v2 (SPOILERS)
« Reply #3396 on: August 22, 2019, 08:53:02 PM »
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Re: Marvel's Movie/TV Universe v2 (SPOILERS)
« Reply #3397 on: August 23, 2019, 06:15:26 AM »
I'm thinking both sides let this go public hoping that the MCU and Spidey fans would be overwhelmingly angry with the other side. I think both sides guessed people would be angry with the other. Turns out everyone is basically angry with both sides. I don't think there seems to be a large bias in either direction, maybe slightly leaning in favor of Sony.

Just get the deal done, boys. No one wants a Spider-man out of the MCU. Sony has to be smart enough to realize that they'll earn at least 20% less on the next non-MCU Spider-man movie. Heck, bring Venom and all other villain movies into the MCU too. Or Disney, just offer Sony $20 billion to get the rights to Spider-man back.

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« Reply #3398 on: August 23, 2019, 07:19:06 AM »
Let's just wait til the next movie under performs or straight up bombs, and then Disney acquired Spider-man in full and picks up where Far From Home left off. Sony won't make another billion without Marvel.

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« Reply #3399 on: August 23, 2019, 07:20:52 AM »
There appears to be rumblings that a deal may have been made.
https://cosmicbook.news/spider-man-deal-7-movies-avengers
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Re: Marvel's Movie/TV Universe v2 (SPOILERS)
« Reply #3400 on: August 23, 2019, 07:27:08 AM »
There appears to be rumblings that a deal may have been made.
https://cosmicbook.news/spider-man-deal-7-movies-avengers

I will wait until its official but I dont think all those points will be part of the deal (if there is one)
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Re: Marvel's Movie/TV Universe v2 (SPOILERS)
« Reply #3401 on: August 23, 2019, 07:27:32 AM »
Don't believe it for a second because of the source. A low-sub count YouTuber with some vague "industry insider" plus Spidey teaming with X-Men *and* Sony incorporating Venom into the MCU? There's just way too much goodness in there to believe. Nice to dream about it though.
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« Reply #3402 on: August 23, 2019, 07:29:47 AM »
There appears to be rumblings that a deal may have been made.
https://cosmicbook.news/spider-man-deal-7-movies-avengers
There are far more details there than would seem plausible. But I hope things are moving that direction.

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« Reply #3403 on: August 23, 2019, 07:42:03 AM »
I think personally they already botched the origins of Venom so at this point why even tie it into Spider-Man? The whole point of the Spider-Man/Venom relationship is that Eddie hates Peter and the symbiote is obsessed with Spider-Man because he rejected it. Sure you can have Spider-Man fighting Venom or running into him anyways but by changing the origins you are removing a key part of the character and what made him interesting. I actually preferred Venom in SM3. Yeah they got the symbiote part nailed down better in Venom and I think Tom Hardy was pretty good but I see it more as an alternative version of the character than the "traditional" one we've had in the comics or the animated tv-shows.

Would be nice to see this current Spider-Man play out though and see where they go with it. Personally I think MCU has messed up a few elements of the character which I don't like, BUT the movies have been fun and the cast is solid and it's also nice to see things go down a different route. While we won't get the Daily Bugle working photographer that I think of when I think about Peter Parker, they are doing some different things so i'll give them that.

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« Reply #3404 on: August 23, 2019, 08:01:02 AM »
I think personally they already botched the origins of Venom so at this point why even tie it into Spider-Man? The whole point of the Spider-Man/Venom relationship is that Eddie hates Peter and the symbiote is obsessed with Spider-Man because he rejected it. Sure you can have Spider-Man fighting Venom or running into him anyways but by changing the origins you are removing a key part of the character and what made him interesting. I actually preferred Venom in SM3. Yeah they got the symbiote part nailed down better in Venom and I think Tom Hardy was pretty good but I see it more as an alternative version of the character than the "traditional" one we've had in the comics or the animated tv-shows.

Would be nice to see this current Spider-Man play out though and see where they go with it. Personally I think MCU has messed up a few elements of the character which I don't like, BUT the movies have been fun and the cast is solid and it's also nice to see things go down a different route. While we won't get the Daily Bugle working photographer that I think of when I think about Peter Parker, they are doing some different things so i'll give them that.

But Spiderman didn't have an origin story in the MCU. He already had his powers the first time he came on screen. They could do something similar with Venom.

Also, I am more worried because I had a feeling it was the plan to link spider man to Doctor Strange Multi-Universe. Let's remember that there was a spider-verse before the movie  ::)

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« Reply #3405 on: August 23, 2019, 01:45:28 PM »
Now an inside source is saying that they’ve agreed to a 7 movie deal that would also bring Venom into the MCU.

https://cosmicbook.news/spider-man-deal-7-movies-avengers

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Re: Marvel's Movie/TV Universe v2 (SPOILERS)
« Reply #3406 on: August 23, 2019, 01:47:47 PM »
Now an inside source is saying that they’ve agreed to a 7 movie deal that would also bring Venom into the MCU.

https://cosmicbook.news/spider-man-deal-7-movies-avengers

faizoff just posted it earlier, a few above. Looks incredibly unreliable.

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« Reply #3407 on: August 23, 2019, 02:26:28 PM »
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« Reply #3408 on: August 23, 2019, 02:53:13 PM »
I have no idea if a deal has been reached, but that is not a reliable source.
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Re: Marvel's Movie/TV Universe v2 (SPOILERS)
« Reply #3409 on: August 23, 2019, 05:46:07 PM »
Adami, I've seen you say you're a Moon Knight fan before, right?

https://www.marvel.com/articles/tv-shows/d23-marvel-studios-moon-knight-on-disney-announced

Apparently there's going to be a Moon Knight series.

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« Reply #3410 on: August 23, 2019, 07:33:59 PM »
Ms Marvel and She Hulk too apparently
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« Reply #3411 on: August 23, 2019, 07:38:43 PM »
Kit Harington joining the MCU too. Role unknown atm. That has me very curious.
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Re: Marvel's Movie/TV Universe v2 (SPOILERS)
« Reply #3412 on: August 23, 2019, 07:45:50 PM »
Adami, I've seen you say you're a Moon Knight fan before, right?

https://www.marvel.com/articles/tv-shows/d23-marvel-studios-moon-knight-on-disney-announced

Apparently there's going to be a Moon Knight series.

On Disney plus. Ugh. Moon knight is NOT family friendly. So I’m not too excited.
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« Reply #3413 on: August 24, 2019, 03:10:20 PM »
Black Panther II announced for May 6, 2022
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Re: Marvel's Movie/TV Universe v2 (SPOILERS)
« Reply #3414 on: August 25, 2019, 10:55:11 AM »
Based on recent comments from Tom Holland and Kevin Feige, it looks like the deal is done for good.  :-[

Here’s hoping things change in time.
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« Reply #3415 on: August 25, 2019, 11:39:51 AM »
Based on recent comments from Tom Holland and Kevin Feige, it looks like the deal is done for good.  :-[

Here’s hoping things change in time.

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Re: Marvel's Movie/TV Universe v2 (SPOILERS)
« Reply #3416 on: August 26, 2019, 10:01:21 AM »
Based on recent comments from Tom Holland and Kevin Feige, it looks like the deal is done for good.  :-[

Here’s hoping things change in time.
I suspect that due to timing and logistics, the deal with Sony is probably unavoidably off for Spider-Man 3, meaning it will contain no MCU references, but another deal may be back in place before any future Spidey appearance. 

Just a hunch.
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« Reply #3417 on: August 26, 2019, 10:09:46 AM »
Based on recent comments from Tom Holland and Kevin Feige, it looks like the deal is done for good.  :-[

Here’s hoping things change in time.
I suspect that due to timing and logistics, the deal with Sony is probably unavoidably off for Spider-Man 3, meaning it will contain no MCU references, but another deal may be back in place before any future Spidey appearance. 

Just a hunch.

Unless Sony decide to screw everything up and do a sort of reboot with the same cast, but changing all the internal environment (crossovers with Venom, etc).
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« Reply #3418 on: August 26, 2019, 02:04:31 PM »
They could cross over with Venom without doing that.
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Re: Marvel's Movie/TV Universe v2 (SPOILERS)
« Reply #3419 on: August 27, 2019, 09:31:39 AM »
Some stray observations about the recent and future MCU films:

-Infinity War:  Released April 2018; takes place ~ 2018
-Ant Man and Wasp:  Released July 2018; takes place ~ 2018
-Captain Marvel:  Released March 2019; takes place 1995
-Endgame:  Released April 2019; takes place - May 2018 and 2023
-Spiderman--Far from Home:  Released July 2019; takes place in 2023
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-Black Widow:  to be released May 2020; prequel
-Eternals:  to be released November 2020; prequel
-Shang-Chi:  to be released February 2021
-Dr. Strange:  to be released May 2021
-Thor:  to be released November 2021

So...Engame and Spiderman were, collectively, a HUGE emotional climax for the 10-year-old MCU.  Obviously.  We don't get another Marvel film at all for 10 months.  And the first two films once we start phase 4 are BOTH prequels.  Pretty smart.  This really gives people sort of an emotional "re-set" on the MCU.  And we have a 5-year time gap to deal with.  But here's the thing:  by the time we get back to a story that is NOT a prequel and actually picks up where the MCU timeline left off, we will be some time in 2021 (depending on when Shang-Chi is set--it wouldn't surprise me if it is set sometime during the 5-yer gap, although I would not be surprised if the timing is intentionally or unintentionally somewhat vague).  Again, smart.  There will then likely be somewhat of a discrepancy between real time and when the stories are taking place.  But by that time, the discrepancy will be a lot smaller, and the audience at large will not notice. 

So I think that the present schedule of movies is actually pretty well-planned from the standpoint of dealing with two of the MCU's biggest challenges as things stand right now at the conclusion of phase 3: (1) MCU fatigue; and (2) the MCU timeline being out of sync with present time.

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Re: Marvel's Movie/TV Universe v2 (SPOILERS)
« Reply #3420 on: August 27, 2019, 09:37:45 AM »
Also, on a related topic, is anyone here NOT going to be a for sure Disney+ subscriber?  Let's look at what is GUARANTEED so far for Disney's two biggest money makers:

MCU
-The Falcon and the Winter Soldier (Fall 2020)
-WandaVision (Spring 2021)
-Loki (Spring 2021)
-What if...?  (Summer 2021)
-Hawkeye (Fall 2021)

Star Wars:
-The Mandalorian (November 2019)
-Obi-Wan (no release date)
-Rogue One prequel (no release date)

Disney is taking our money by the fistful, and we don't even care.  :lol
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Re: Marvel's Movie/TV Universe v2 (SPOILERS)
« Reply #3421 on: August 27, 2019, 09:41:05 AM »
The Marvel and Pixar stuff alone is enough to sell me on Disney+ *and* cancel my other streaming services. It's pretty much perfect for me, everything else included is a bonus as far as I'm concerned.  :biggrin:
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« Reply #3422 on: August 27, 2019, 10:49:00 AM »
Interesting observation Bosk. I agree than once we are done with Prequels they will have to do something to match the timeline, if not it will feel disjointed.

Re: Disney +. At first I wasn't sure but seeing all the shows you get plus the option for Disney Channels (ESPN for example, I need my NBA games), It is more than worthy for the price.
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« Reply #3423 on: August 28, 2019, 09:23:08 AM »
Evidently if you sign up for a free D23 account you can lock in 3 years of Disney+ for $140 (comes out to less than $4/month).
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« Reply #3424 on: August 28, 2019, 09:29:07 AM »
Also, on a related topic, is anyone here NOT going to be a for sure Disney+ subscriber?  Let's look at what is GUARANTEED so far for Disney's two biggest money makers:

MCU
-The Falcon and the Winter Soldier (Fall 2020)
-WandaVision (Spring 2021)
-Loki (Spring 2021)
-What if...?  (Summer 2021)
-Hawkeye (Fall 2021)

Star Wars:
-The Mandalorian (November 2019)
-Obi-Wan (no release date)
-Rogue One prequel (no release date)

Disney is taking our money by the fistful, and we don't even care.  :lol
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« Reply #3425 on: August 29, 2019, 03:56:26 PM »
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« Reply #3426 on: August 29, 2019, 04:05:40 PM »
I’m sure Black Widow will be fine. I’m pretty excited Taskmaster. I really hope they do him justice beyond his power set. Cause he’s a weird dude.

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« Reply #3427 on: August 29, 2019, 04:32:13 PM »

I am, very intrigued, however, by Wandavison.

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« Reply #3428 on: August 29, 2019, 05:02:55 PM »
I heard from somewhere that someone at D23 said Wandavision will be the sitcom of the MCU. Not sure what it means but I'm intrigued.

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« Reply #3429 on: August 29, 2019, 07:08:15 PM »
Paul Bettany sorta said it.  Well, I guess, "sorta" isn't right--he literally said it.  But he sorta implied that there was more to it than that.
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