Marvel's Movie/TV Universe v2 (SPOILERS)

[gzarruk]

Went to see it for the second time yesterday and I actually enjoyed it more than on my first (and loved it on the first). The previous time it did feel like a 3 hour movie, and some scenes felt a bit long/tiring for me, but not this time, it flew by. Maybe it’s because I already knew what was going to happen, so I just sat there and relaxed with a friend who also was watching it for the second time. Also, some of the minor flaws didn’t bother me this time as I was like “whatever”.

Since this is almost a month after it was released, I assume most people on the theater yesterday had already seen it since nobody went bananas with all the twists/surprises. I had quite the opposite experience on my first time watching it, when it was just released and some random guy yelled “MY PENIS!!!” when Cap picked up Mjolnir

What a great movie, guys.

[MinistroRaven]

The newest Avenger arrives TOMORROW! Discover deleted scenes and over an hour of bonus content when you bring home Marvel Studios'
@CaptainMarvel on Digital: (link: http://bit.ly/CMARVEL) bit.ly/CMARVEL #CaptainMarvel

https://twitter.com/Avengers/status/1133098502404300800

[bosk1]

First one I probably won't buy.

[The Walrus]

I'll be buying it. Love me some Captain Larson 

[bosk1]

I didn't hate it, but it is easily the weakest of the MCU.  And I'm just not as into purchasing movies as I used to be, what with the ease of watching things digitally any time you want to.  I'm just not as inclined to clutter up the shelf with something that I'm never going to watch.

[The Walrus]

Yeah I feel you there, I think the Marvel films are the only movies I continue to buy physically. I definitely enjoyed CM way more than a lot of other MCU flicks though, especially BP.

I actually rent movies mostly through YouTube these days. Way, way too convenient to get 'em otherwise.

[Lonk]

An extremely minor thing that bugged me was where everyone arrived on Vormir: very far away from the mountain. Reminds me of the Family Guy bit when Brian sees a sign for Austin so he hops off the truck he's riding on.

If we are going to nitpick locations, I was not bothered by Vormir. However I WAS bothered when Rocket and Hulk went to get Thor in New Asgard. I saw the movie again yesterday (2nd time) and when they flew in but then still had to hop on the back of a truck to get to the town it made me wonder, why not just land next to the town? There's plenty of open space lol 

[Aelon]

An extremely minor thing that bugged me was where everyone arrived on Vormir: very far away from the mountain. Reminds me of the Family Guy bit when Brian sees a sign for Austin so he hops off the truck he's riding on.

If we are going to nitpick locations, I was not bothered by Vormir. However I WAS bothered when Rocket and Hulk went to get Thor in New Asgard. I saw the movie again yesterday (2nd time) and when they flew in but then still had to hop on the back of a truck to get to the town it made me wonder, why not just land next to the town? There's plenty of open space lol 

Well if they hadn't, we wouldn't get that trippy little song! 

[Ninjabait]

Victoria Alonso apparently confirmed in an reddit AMA that Marcus Daniels (a villain from Agents of SHIELD) is the bartender in Captain Marvel. That's two crossovers in two movies.

[jammindude]

Getting caught up on Agents of SHIELD, and just noticing for the first time that Chloe Bennet actually bears a striking resemblance to Kaley Cuoco.   

That is all. 

PS - I mean, Chloe is a bit darker of complexion and the hair is a bit darker....but their facial structure and expressions are extremely similar.  I especially noticed this in Episode 3 of the new AoS when Quake is stoned off the snails and heading into the casino.

[lonestar]

Started in on S3 of Jessica Jones. Feeling pretty bummed that this will no doubt be the last taste of Netflix Marvel we'll get.

[Grappler]

Rented Captain Marvel over the weekend...no major complaints.  Just a fun way to kill 2 hours and relax.  I will say that the Nick Fury losing and eye thing felt shoe-horned in there, but whatever.  Loved the twist between the Kree and Skrulls, which ties into Agents of Shield, and Guardians, where the Kree are considered antagonists.

[Lonk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1wEO-pHizQ

Adam Savage and an Iron man suit that actually flies.

Don't know where else to post this that would be relevant, but this is pretty cool.

[jammindude]

Started in on S3 of Jessica Jones. Feeling pretty bummed that this will no doubt be the last taste of Netflix Marvel we'll get.

I'm 5 episodes in and loving it so far.

[bosk1]

Kinda surprised at the lack of SHIELD discussion.  I think S6 has been pretty good so far, although it has been kind of odd in some ways.  But S6 is doing what the show has always done: putting together a fun, interesting story, with lots of twists to keep the audience guessing.  I'm going to miss this show when it is gone. 

[Adami]

Kinda surprised at the lack of SHIELD discussion.  I think S6 has been pretty good so far, although it has been kind of odd in some ways.  But S6 is doing what the show has always done: putting together a fun, interesting story, with lots of twists to keep the audience guessing.  I'm going to miss this show when it is gone.

Oh yea, I'm digging this season. I wish I understood the timeline in relation to the MCU a bit more, but such is life. Still really digging it.

Honestly, the only MCU based show I don't dig is Runaways. Well, and Iron Fist season 1.

Inhumans never existed.

[Grappler]

Kinda surprised at the lack of SHIELD discussion.  I think S6 has been pretty good so far, although it has been kind of odd in some ways.  But S6 is doing what the show has always done: putting together a fun, interesting story, with lots of twists to keep the audience guessing.  I'm going to miss this show when it is gone.

Oh yea, I'm digging this season. I wish I understood the timeline in relation to the MCU a bit more, but such is life. Still really digging it.

Honestly, the only MCU based show I don't dig is Runaways. Well, and Iron Fist season 1.

Inhumans never existed.

The only thing I've read is that Agents of Shield is post-Endgame, which is why this season premiered so late.  It allowed the show it ignore the snap and it's effects, otherwise they'd have to acknowledge half of the show's cast being missing for a period of time.   

I think that's a smart move and just lets the show be itself without having to tie it in so closely to the movies. 

[Orbert]

It's kinda weird because there was a vague reference to the Infinity War last season, but nothing since then.  Instead, we've gotten a few references to time travel and how going back and messing with the past will create alternate timelines, which are each completely valid alternate realities and, best of all, you don't know which one you're in.

I kinda took that as their explanation for why Agents of SHIELD isn't in sync with the MCU any more, but mostly I just don't let it bother me because we know the constraints they (the writers) were working with, and their solution is good enough.

[Adami]

Kinda surprised at the lack of SHIELD discussion.  I think S6 has been pretty good so far, although it has been kind of odd in some ways.  But S6 is doing what the show has always done: putting together a fun, interesting story, with lots of twists to keep the audience guessing.  I'm going to miss this show when it is gone.

Oh yea, I'm digging this season. I wish I understood the timeline in relation to the MCU a bit more, but such is life. Still really digging it.

Honestly, the only MCU based show I don't dig is Runaways. Well, and Iron Fist season 1.

Inhumans never existed.

The only thing I've read is that Agents of Shield is post-Endgame, which is why this season premiered so late.  It allowed the show it ignore the snap and it's effects, otherwise they'd have to acknowledge half of the show's cast being missing for a period of time.   

I think that's a smart move and just lets the show be itself without having to tie it in so closely to the movies.

It is not post-endgame from what I've seen. Not at all. If anything, it's confusingly pre-Infinity War.

Cause last season (SPOILERS)..............Coulson was about to die, pre-infinity war, and this season is one year later.

Yea, just read in an interview that this season also occurs pre-snap. Largely because they were unsure when it would air.

Next season, I hope.....i dunno. It's odd

[jammindude]

I read an article that said the same thing.   They admit that the "one year" thing is a snafu, but they weren't getting any communication or input from the movie producers (for obvious reasons) so they finally just had to say "OK...we screwed up with the one year thing....Season 6 is going to have to be considered 'pre-snap'....sorry for the confusion."

[Grappler]

I swear I had read post-Endgame a while ago.  But I haven't seen Endgame, so I'm not up to speed on any timelines and time travel stuff from the movies. 

Either way, I'm fine with the show not acknowledging the movies at this point. 

[Orbert]

I read an article that said the same thing.   They admit that the "one year" thing is a snafu, but they weren't getting any communication or input from the movie producers (for obvious reasons) so they finally just had to say "OK...we screwed up with the one year thing....Season 6 is going to have to be considered 'pre-snap'....sorry for the confusion."

This makes the most sense to me.  For some reason, I always figured they would eventually "undo the Snap" but kinda thought it would happen right away.  Or... I don't know... maybe take a while to figure out, but not five years.  So I can see the AoS showrunners figuring a year later would be safe.  When Endgame jumped five years, that was surprising but maybe shouldn't have been.  This isn't something you figure out overnight.  Five years for Tony Stark to figure time travel out?  I can see that.

[Lonk]

I read an article that said the same thing.   They admit that the "one year" thing is a snafu, but they weren't getting any communication or input from the movie producers (for obvious reasons) so they finally just had to say "OK...we screwed up with the one year thing....Season 6 is going to have to be considered 'pre-snap'....sorry for the confusion."

This makes the most sense to me.  For some reason, I always figured they would eventually "undo the Snap" but kinda thought it would happen right away.  Or... I don't know... maybe take a while to figure out, but not five years.  So I can see the AoS showrunners figuring a year later would be safe.  When Endgame jumped five years, that was surprising but maybe shouldn't have been.  This isn't something you figure out overnight.  Five years for Tony Stark to figure time travel out?  I can see that.

Except that it didn't take him 5 years, but what I would assume is a few days from the point Scott, Cap and Nat visited him to the point he figured it out.

[Adami]

Yea, took Stark like...a few weeks tops to figure it all out.

[Orbert]

Well then he was an asshole for not doing it five years sooner.  I can say that because he's dead and I don't fear him any more.

[jammindude]

To be fair, he absolutely believed that it was 100% not possible until he was presented with the evidence of Scott's survival, and forced to contemplate newer possibilities. 

[lonestar]

Shit, forgot all about SHIELD...add that to the list as well.


JJ was quite excellent, they brought Trish's character down a few notches, then let her fucking fly. Really good job on the development of the story throughout. Really bummed the Netflix phase is over, I still feel it was the best quality Marvel product out there storywise.

[jingle.boy]

Yea, took Stark like...a few weeks tops to figure it all out.

I'd assumed he'd been working on it pretty much the whole time on-and-off, and then Scott's appearance re-invigorated him.  Wasn't there some hint when he was running the simulation that he'd run a bunch of theories and/or simulations already?

[Ninjabait]

I read an article that said the same thing.   They admit that the "one year" thing is a snafu, but they weren't getting any communication or input from the movie producers (for obvious reasons) so they finally just had to say "OK...we screwed up with the one year thing....Season 6 is going to have to be considered 'pre-snap'....sorry for the confusion."

From what I've read, there was communication between the AoS team and the IW/Endgame team. They knew what was going to happen from the get go. The snap, the 5 year time skip, the unsnap, all of it. The problem is that they weren't entirely sure ABC or whoever (always referred to as a "they"...but it's probably ABC) wouldn't just bump them up from May to January. If that happened, and it was bumped up to Jan, then they would have accidentally spoiled probably the biggest movie of the last decade. So they played it safe and made it pre-snap with some minor inconsistencies that are pretty easy to retcon.

Basically: Marvel Studios gets a pass here. As usual, ABC kinda sucks.

[lonestar]

Well I took one for the team and went and saw Dark Pheonix (5$ night and ac in 100 degree weather). Fairly entertaining, but for once the critics are right, the writing and directing (both the same dude) are just horrific. Too bad, there was so much potential behind that story and I don't think it'll ever get touched again.

[jingle.boy]

Well I took one for the team and went and saw Dark Pheonix (5$ night and ac in 100 degree weather). Fairly entertaining, but for once the critics are right, the writing and directing (both the same dude) are just horrific. Too bad, there was so much potential behind that story and I don't think it'll ever get touched again.

This will be the first Marvel movie I decide to wait for Netflix - I even saw Origins:Wolverine in theatres!.  Though, with all Marvel properties seemingly going to Disney's streaming service, it may never see the small screen. If it's that bad, they may just want to bury it along with Inhumans.

[lonestar]

It's not even close to Inhumans bad....I at least made it through the whole thing and was entertained throughout. Inhumans was fucking painful to watch.

[lordxizor]

I agree Dark Phoenix was entertaining enough, though not great. Really wish they would have used the movie to close out this chapter of the X-Men movies better, but I understand why they didn't want to change the movie just because of a corporate merger. Looking forward to what the X-Men can do in the MCU at some point in the future.

[Dream Team]

Wow not much discussion about the re-release of Endgame with bonus footage.

[gmillerdrake]

Wow not much discussion about the re-release of Endgame with bonus footage.

I think it's due to we all know it's a 'money grab' to overtake AVATAR. They'll probably throw in that cut scene of Tony running into his 'future' daughter......and another fan appeasing tid bit or two....but it's just the final attempt to 'take the lead' .