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« Reply #210 on: February 22, 2017, 07:44:16 PM »
very true. Disney thought agents was failing. remember. there is the disney movie division and the tv division.besides other facets.there has been several screenplays/ideas for an inhumans movie. Disney usually gets things right.  sometimes the tail wags the dog

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« Reply #211 on: February 22, 2017, 07:46:27 PM »
very true. Disney thought agents was failing. remember. there is the disney movie division and the tv division.besides other facets.there has been several screenplays/ideas for an inhumans movie. Disney usually gets things right.  sometimes the tail wags the dog

I mean, it's still Marvel. Disney owns it and has their say, but Marvel is running their company and their movie heads and their TV heads don't get along with each other very well, hence the complete lack of crossover between anything on TV and the movies, despite being in the same universe.
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« Reply #212 on: February 22, 2017, 07:58:23 PM »
oh we are in total agreement. again agree with you  100%.  Disney doesn't run marvel. they own marvel. but the stakeholders at marvel don't get along to well with the Disney execs. it is a slippery slope. like I said earlier, box office take will tell. sometimes you can get too big for your own good. and Disney/marvel. star wars I think Disney took on too much. just my opinion

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« Reply #213 on: February 23, 2017, 01:55:13 PM »
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Sure, there were some holes, but overall, I think the film got a pretty bad rap. It's not AS bad as I remember the theatrical version being (which I rented when it came out years ago). Any fans of the character who have seen the film in the last few years have any thoughts on it?

I'm a pretty big fan of what they are doing with the Netflix series. I've always been a Punisher fan, so I was pleased with how the last season ended. Curious to see where it goes next...
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« Reply #214 on: February 23, 2017, 03:19:58 PM »
I have always heard that the director's cut was better than the theatrical release.  But at this point, I don't have the time or inclination to track it down or spend the time watching.

I REALLY disliked the theatrical cut.  The Netflix show is really, really good.
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« Reply #215 on: February 24, 2017, 12:05:46 AM »
Nothing can save that movie from Colin Farrel. Poor thing.

I didn't totally abhor the movie other than that but that one villain singlehandedly ruined the whole film. Even then it was pretty mediocre though, at its best.

The Netflix series however is one of the greatest superhero revivals of all time. I think it's right next to Iron Man in terms of impact (mainly just for DD but even for superhero TV shows in general). Obviously not nearly as much of a forthcoming given that Iron Man literally revived the entire superhero media from death but I don't think superhero TV shows would've kept on blowing up like they have been if it weren't for Netflix and their deal with Marvel along with Daredevil's initial huge boom.

AoS certainly wasn't making any splashes. I still can't get into it despite a lot of praise for it.

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« Reply #216 on: February 27, 2017, 09:39:59 AM »
Speaking of the DD film.  I geniunely struggle to think of a superhero movie worse than Electra, that film was so very boring (at least Catwoman/Superman 4 were amusing bad).  Electra had no redeeming features at all (shallow : I don't even find Garner hot).

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« Reply #217 on: February 27, 2017, 11:29:23 AM »
Catwoman and Superman IV were not in any way amusing.
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« Reply #218 on: February 27, 2017, 11:48:54 AM »
I'm a Marvel fan, a huge one (though still try to be pretty unbias in how I rate their stuff) and, as far as I know, Elektra is the only post-Blade Marvel movie I've never seen.





Nope, scratch that, never seen The Amazing Spider Man 2 either.

It has to look pretty awful for me not to even try to watch it. I even watched Fant4stick.
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« Reply #219 on: February 27, 2017, 02:13:05 PM »
Elektra might actually be the worst "superhero" movie I have seen in its entirety. I'll never bother to watch Superman IV or Batman & Robin, and I only watched like 20 minutes of Catwoman before I couldn't take it anymore and turned it off. So that one might be worse, but I didn't finish it.

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« Reply #220 on: February 27, 2017, 02:43:57 PM »
I haven't seen The Amazing Spider-Man 1 or 2.

I haven't seen the latest Fantastic Four either.
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« Reply #221 on: February 27, 2017, 03:45:36 PM »
I haven't seen The Amazing Spider-Man 1 or 2.

I have.  They had their moments.  For each of them, I kinda felt like, "Yeah, okay, that was a fun way to kill 90 minutes, but I'm not going to waste another 90 doing that again."
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« Reply #222 on: February 27, 2017, 11:07:51 PM »
Yeah that's pretty much how I feel about them too.

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« Reply #223 on: February 28, 2017, 12:02:24 AM »
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« Reply #224 on: February 28, 2017, 02:50:35 AM »
Catwoman and Superman IV were not in any way amusing.

Ah come up Halle Berry acting as an actual cat is amusing, and completely shows they misunderstood the character.  Then there is Superman 4 - just watch the battle on the moon!!   Also Milton Keynes subbing as Metropolis  :D

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« Reply #225 on: February 28, 2017, 07:57:24 AM »
Catwoman and Superman IV were not in any way amusing.

Ah come up Halle Berry acting as an actual cat is amusing, and completely shows they misunderstood the character.  Then there is Superman 4 - just watch the battle on the moon!!   Also Milton Keynes subbing as Metropolis  :D
All of that is cringe-worthily awful.
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« Reply #226 on: February 28, 2017, 08:00:25 AM »
Catwoman and Superman IV were not in any way amusing.

Ah come up Halle Berry acting as an actual cat is amusing, and completely shows they misunderstood the character.  Then there is Superman 4 - just watch the battle on the moon!!   Also Milton Keynes subbing as Metropolis  :D
All of that is cringe-worthily awful.

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« Reply #227 on: February 28, 2017, 01:52:42 PM »
Anson Mount cast as Black Bolt in The Inhumans

Intriguing choice.  Definitely a tough role for most actors, since there is no dialogue for him.
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« Reply #228 on: February 28, 2017, 02:01:48 PM »
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« Reply #229 on: February 28, 2017, 03:22:43 PM »
Anson Mount
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« Reply #230 on: February 28, 2017, 04:15:44 PM »
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« Reply #232 on: February 28, 2017, 05:08:42 PM »
Anson Mount was my pick for Batman for the DCEU before they casted Affleck. Great choice, excellent actor

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« Reply #233 on: February 28, 2017, 10:13:53 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTZ7-LlEVok

Newest Guardians trailer.

Wow, this looks like so much fun. Also, it still shows a ton but never gives away the plot. However, due to Marvel's tendency to release most of the movie through trailers and TV spots, this will be the last thing I watch.
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« Reply #234 on: March 01, 2017, 03:36:57 AM »
Catwoman and Superman IV were not in any way amusing.

Ah come up Halle Berry acting as an actual cat is amusing, and completely shows they misunderstood the character.  Then there is Superman 4 - just watch the battle on the moon!!   Also Milton Keynes subbing as Metropolis  :D
All of that is cringe-worthily awful.

But, but, but it's still better than sitting though Electra!

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« Reply #235 on: March 01, 2017, 05:56:13 AM »
Not directly connected to the MCU, but I'm seeing LOGAN tonight!!  :metal :metal

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« Reply #236 on: March 01, 2017, 01:05:02 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTZ7-LlEVok

Newest Guardians trailer.

Wow, this looks like so much fun. Also, it still shows a ton but never gives away the plot. However, due to Marvel's tendency to release most of the movie through trailers and TV spots, this will be the last thing I watch.

Any clues from the brief Kurt Russell appearance what character he is?
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« Reply #237 on: March 01, 2017, 01:08:18 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTZ7-LlEVok

Newest Guardians trailer.

Wow, this looks like so much fun. Also, it still shows a ton but never gives away the plot. However, due to Marvel's tendency to release most of the movie through trailers and TV spots, this will be the last thing I watch.

Any clues from the brief Kurt Russell appearance what character he is?

I'll put it in spoilers, just in case someone doesn't know and doesn't want to know.

He is playing Ego, the living planet, who.......I guess also has a human body he can take whenever he wants. He's also Star Lord's father.
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« Reply #238 on: March 01, 2017, 01:11:27 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTZ7-LlEVok

Newest Guardians trailer.

Wow, this looks like so much fun. Also, it still shows a ton but never gives away the plot. However, due to Marvel's tendency to release most of the movie through trailers and TV spots, this will be the last thing I watch.

Any clues from the brief Kurt Russell appearance what character he is?
It's been well publicized what character he is playing.  And I actually thought it was talked about in this thread.  It's not really a spoiler, unless you just don't want to know anything about the film.
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« Reply #239 on: March 01, 2017, 01:32:48 PM »
That seems...like such an odd choice.  But what the heck.  Guardians of the Galaxy seemed like an odd choice to make a movie out of in the first place, and that worked beautifully, so...  :dunno:
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« Reply #240 on: March 02, 2017, 12:18:14 PM »
A couple more casting announcements for Inhumans

Ken Leung as Karnak
https://t.co/Wz1cxYNoSi

and Serinda Swan as Medusa
https://news.marvel.com/tv/60593/serinda-swan-cast-marvels-inhumans-series-abc/

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« Reply #241 on: March 02, 2017, 12:24:17 PM »
Maybe it's just me, but for the most part, casting decisions don't really excite me, and I mostly find them meaningless.  If a part is well-written and well-directed, a no name is often just as likely to deliver a great performance as a big name, and vice-versa.  Samuel L. Jackson is my personal poster child for this.  When his lines are well-written and he is well directed, he is one of my favorite actors, as in 187.  When his lines are poorly written and/or he is poorly directed, he is one of my least favorite, as in the Star Wars prequels.
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« Reply #242 on: March 02, 2017, 12:48:55 PM »
A couple more casting announcements for Inhumans

Ken Leung as Karnak
https://t.co/Wz1cxYNoSi


Well that's an interesting choice.
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« Reply #244 on: March 06, 2017, 07:56:18 AM »
Finally saw Doctor Strange over the weekend.  It was good.  I thought some of the subtle humor was some of the best in the Marvel movies.  But in typical Marvel fashion, there were plenty of other moments where they tried too hard and fell flat.  Visual effects were awesome and exceeded already-high expectations.  But then during the mirror dimension fight toward the end, it started to kinda feel like the tickle section in LNF where the awesome factor is simultaneously ramping up at almost exponential rates while also just making you feel like you need it to stop immediately.  Story was pretty good.  Dormammu fell a little flat for me.  There were hints throughout that he was the big threat in the background, but I somehow just didn't feel that he was developed enough, or even that the idea of him was developed enough, to make him feel truly menacing.  I dunno, maybe it was just me rather than a fault of how the plot devoped.  But he just didn't hit me all that hard as something to be dreaded.

Overall, I would put it somewhere in the bottom half of MCU films.  But that said, it was still very good.
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