Star Trek: Thread Space 9

[Adami]

So new episode of Picard......ain't bad.

I still hate what Star Trek has become. Everything is SO damn dark, no one can be trusted, the federation is evil, everything's a conspiracy, the entire plot is a stack of mystery boxes, endless nastalgia, etc.

That said, given that, this episode wasn't too bad. I actually was surprised by the cameo and think it was (eventually) handled really well.

[PetFish]

Picard Season 3 is amazing.

In the latest episode the tension on the holodeck between... and the decision by... and the gift from........... If you know,  you know.  I had a good little cry.  Wow.

Beverly has been outstanding and I love Captain Shaw.

[soupytwist]

That's 3 great episodes in a Ro.

Kind off reverse season 2, which started well but fell off a cliff.  This season started iffy but has really found it's groove (for now  )

[jingle.boy]

Agreed.  At first I thought the cameo was just another unnecessary call-back to TNG / fan service moment, but then it was clear there was an actual purpose to it.  Though, I don't recall her/Picard having as meaningful a relationship as this episode demonstrates.  Still, great episode - even if I also agree with Adami's beefs.

[ReaperKK]

I'm kind of bummed this was the show we got from season 1. I've been looking to new episodes every week which is not something I've been able to say for a long time.

[Polarbear]

Another good episode IMO!

This isn't the best Trek ever by any stretch, but still a huge improvement over the previous 2 seasons. I was thinking that, so far this feels like a TNG movie told over 10 episodes. It's not hard to see that, with some changes, this story could have worked as the Fifth TNG movie.

Of course, we don't yet know how this ends. The ending could suck ass, but let's hope not. But that is the vibe I'm getting so far.

Oh, and "Spoiler" cameo was handled well.

[YtseJam]

Did Ro get a Bajoran nose job?

[soupytwist]

Captain Shaw spinoff please.  Although I suspect he'll be killed off soon.

With this season and Strange New Worlds they do seem to have found a winning formula, what are the chance Disco goes out on a high?

[Logain Ablar]

This isn't the best Trek ever by any stretch, but still a huge improvement over the previous 2 seasons. I was thinking that, so far this feels like a TNG movie told over 10 episodes. It's not hard to see that, with some changes, this story could have worked as the Fifth TNG movie.

Totally agree with this. I struggled through S1 when it first came, and had no desire to sit through S2. Then I heard the buzz around S3 and decided to go back and get through 2 in the last few weeks. Both seasons felt off, like they were written by somebody who had never watched TNG, but now it seems like things are clicking into place a lot better.

Sir Pat Stew is definitely no spring chicken any longer, but it seems to me that in S3 he's elevated and supported by the strong characters around him. Previously, it almost felt like a different character..

[soupytwist]

Not the best Trek, but the last 3 episode run has been the best Trek has been since DS9 without a doubt - of course it'll probably undo all it's good work from now 

[Adami]

Not the best Trek, but the last 3 episode run has been the best Trek has been since DS9 without a doubt - of course it'll probably undo all it's good work from now 

Oh son, no. There have been good and even some great moments, but even this season of Picard is not great, thus far. As a whole. A great Ro arc doesn't make up for how bad so much else is.

Strange New Worlds is better than this for sure, as was the majority of Enterprise.

This is okay sci-fi with great moments, but it's hardly even Trek.

[soupytwist]

Not the best Trek, but the last 3 episode run has been the best Trek has been since DS9 without a doubt - of course it'll probably undo all it's good work from now 

Oh son, no. There have been good and even some great moments, but even this season of Picard is not great, thus far. As a whole. A great Ro arc doesn't make up for how bad so much else is.

Strange New Worlds is better than this for sure, as was the majority of Enterprise.

This is okay sci-fi with great moments, but it's hardly even Trek.

This is how I like my modern Trek, continuing the style and themes of DS9.  I don't think SNW is better, that's been a decent show so far but it's a tad too light weight (and The Orville was kind off already filling that void).  But it has potential to grow, most of the crew are good (aside from the awful Doctor).

And Enterprise...please

It's been a long road
Gettin' from there to here
It's been a long time
But my time is finally near

I will see my dream come alive at last
I will touch the sky
An' they're not gonna hold me down no more
No they're not gonna change my mind
No they're not gonna hold me down

‘Cause I've got faith of the heart
I'm going where my heart will take me
I've got faith to believe
I can do anything
I've got strength of the soul
An' no one's gonna bend or break me
I can reach any star
I've got faith
I've got faith
Faith of the heart

 

[Adami]

Yes, the song is not great. The show wasn't bad, if boring. And sometimes bad.

But again, you and I define Trek differently. If you like the dark, gritty, mysteries on top of mysteries, everyone is angry and evil, then this is the stuff for you.

And DS9 wasn't like this. They just ventured into it on occasion, which is why it worked. It was a balancing act. AND DS9 was very well written (mostly). Modern Trek doesn't have the optimism, hope, inspiration to balance out the dark stuff and the writing is (mostly) just quite bad.

[soupytwist]

Yes, the song is not great. The show wasn't bad, if boring. And sometimes bad.

But again, you and I define Trek differently. If you like the dark, gritty, mysteries on top of mysteries, everyone is angry and evil, then this is the stuff for you.

And DS9 wasn't like this. They just ventured into it on occasion, which is why it worked. It was a balancing act. AND DS9 was very well written (mostly). Modern Trek doesn't have the optimism, hope, inspiration to balance out the dark stuff and the writing is (mostly) just quite bad.

So fans of BSG 

[Adami]

I love BSG. But I don’t want Star Trek to be BSG.


And again, BSG was very well written.

[soupytwist]

And again, BSG was very well written.

For the first two seasons + the New Caprica arc.

[Adami]

And again, BSG was very well written.

For the first two seasons + the New Caprica arc.

Possibly. It’s honestly been years. I’d have to go back and rewatch to really stand behind any of my claims. I just remember being blow away by it all.

Though I felt similar about Attack of the Clones when I first saw that heaping pile of trash.

[soupytwist]

Though I felt similar about Attack of the Clones when I first saw that heaping pile of trash.

Ha!

If it's any consolation I used to think Battle Beyond the Stars was better than any Star Wars/Trek.

Spoilers - It Isn't.

[hefdaddy42]

Strange New Worlds is better than this for sure, as was the majority of Enterprise.

I mean, if you say so.  But I don't care about either of those shows, as they are basically prequels that were both unnecessary.

I hope the next Trek show is set after Picard in the timeline, so we can have stories about what happens NEXT.

[Adami]

Strange New Worlds is better than this for sure, as was the majority of Enterprise.

I mean, if you say so.  But I don't care about either of those shows, as they are basically prequels that were both unnecessary.

I hope the next Trek show is set after Picard in the timeline, so we can have stories about what happens NEXT.

Oh totally. I didn’t need any prequels either. I’m just going purely on quality.

[Samsara]

Just watched the latest episode of Picard. Have to say, the best episode of the series so far. I like where it is going.

[jammindude]

I can’t believe SNW and Enterprise were both mentioned in the same sentence. Enterprise isn’t fit to lick SNW’s boots.

[soupytwist]

I can’t believe SNW and Enterprise were both mentioned in the same sentence. Enterprise isn’t fit to lick SNW’s boots.

Enterprise had the better Doctor, but that's about it.

[Polarbear]

I can’t believe SNW and Enterprise were both mentioned in the same sentence. Enterprise isn’t fit to lick SNW’s boots.

Enterprise had the better Doctor, but that's about it.

Phlox was easily the best character imo. I haven't seen SNW in it's entirety, but Enterprise was not good to say the least.

First 2 seasons were a chore to get through. It got a bit better on seasons 3 and 4, but it never came close to TNG, DS9 or even VOY.