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Orbert

Yeah, "wrong body type" is being euphemistic, but "too fat" isn't really accurate either.  They had to tell her something, but I have no idea what would be appropriate, professional, etc.  Basically, they were looking for "smokin' hot" and she's okay but I wouldn't go that far.  With Jolene they found their "smokin' hot" bod and the rest is history.

YtseJam


Adami

Haven't updated, but I officially finished my big rewatch after several years. Everything from the first episode of Enterprise to Star Trek Nemesis, only skipping the animated show and the newer stuff (which I've mostly already watched except for the cartoons).

I ended up mostly digging Voyager. It wasn't amazing, though it was at times for sure, and some characters were dull and had no development, but overall I found it fun, engaging, charming, and often overly reduced in conversation about it. Wished it had a more pronounced ending though.

Anyway, then last night I finally watched Nemesis again. I mean....it's not good. It has moments, it really does. The acting ain't bad at all, there's really great scenes and ideas, but the story itself was just not good enough. The B4 stuff, the clone of Picard, it just wasn't good enough to make the story. Though that little scene where Troi uses her telepathy or whatever to locate the ship and fire was handled very well. That was cool. And overall the performances were good. Just wish it went off on a better note.


Now....-sigh-....because I'm a completionist and a glutton for punishment, I am resuming Picard season 2, episode 5.

May Q have mercy on my soul.

I probably won't comment much about it because too much negativity is not fun.
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soupytwist

No snark.   
What did you find charming and engaging about Voyager?  For me it was generally consistent in its mediocrity, which made it OK to watch but rarely registered more than I shrug.  Even the shows strongest attribute 'The Doctor' was generally served poorly as episodes whereby he was the main focus were more often than not weak.



Adami

Finished Picard season 2. I could write a whole lot about what I hated about this show. Instead, I will say that I thought it was WITHOUT using the word dumb.

The show was ....absurd, cretinous, daft, foolish, half-witted, idiotic, inane, moronic, thick, dense, dim-written, brainless, obtuse, naïve, blithering, imbecilic and doltish.

And while it made no sense in context, out of context the goodbye between Picard and Q was well done only because of those two actors.

So happy to be done and hoping season 3 is better.
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Adami

Quote from: soupytwist on January 23, 2023, 02:33:42 PM
No snark.   
What did you find charming and engaging about Voyager?  For me it was generally consistent in its mediocrity, which made it OK to watch but rarely registered more than I shrug.  Even the shows strongest attribute 'The Doctor' was generally served poorly as episodes whereby he was the main focus were more often than not weak.

Missed this.

I dunno how to answer this. It's like asking why I like mac and cheese. I just do?
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soupytwist

Picard season 2 was a clusterfuck of big ideas with terrible execution and bizarre tonal shifts.  The episode where Raffi and 7 steal a cop car is without doubt one of the 5 worst Trek episodes ever.

jammindude


Adami

Quote from: jammindude on January 27, 2023, 11:46:12 AM
BUT THAT RED DRESS!!!

It's a shocking thing when Jeri isn't the hottest person in your episode, but yes, I'll give you that dress.
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Samsara

Quote from: Adami on January 26, 2023, 06:27:05 PM
Finished Picard season 2. I could write a whole lot about what I hated about this show. Instead, I will say that I thought it was WITHOUT using the word dumb.

The show was ....absurd, cretinous, daft, foolish, half-witted, idiotic, inane, moronic, thick, dense, dim-written, brainless, obtuse, naïve, blithering, imbecilic and doltish.

And while it made no sense in context, out of context the goodbye between Picard and Q was well done only because of those two actors.

So happy to be done and hoping season 3 is better.

Glad I didn't waste my time after the horrific season one. Looking forward to season 3.

Adami

At this point I'm Charlie Brown and Picard is that damn Lucy and the football.

I know what's going to happen. It keeps happening. They pretend like it won't happen but I know better.


And I'm still going to try anyway because I'm a sucker.
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lonestar

Quote from: Adami on January 27, 2023, 04:11:47 PM
At this point I'm Charlie Brown and Picard is that damn Lucy and the football.

I know what's going to happen. It keeps happening. They pretend like it won't happen but I know better.


And I'm still going to try anyway because I'm a sucker.

You're such a masochist. I'd advise coming up with a safe word for S3 in case they really go off the rails.

Orbert

Quote from: Adami on January 26, 2023, 06:27:05 PM
And while it made no sense in context, out of context the goodbye between Picard and Q was well done only because of those two actors.

That sums it up for me as well.  By that point, I didn't care anymore because nothing made any sense anymore, but Stewart and de Lancie elevate pretty much every scene they're in.  Actually, the whole season, probably the whole series is that way.  The writing is sometimes mind-bogglingly stupid, but they act the hell out of it, and somehow it keeps me watching even as I'm thinking "this is fucking stupid".

Adami

Quote from: lonestar on January 28, 2023, 05:13:21 AM
Quote from: Adami on January 27, 2023, 04:11:47 PM
At this point I'm Charlie Brown and Picard is that damn Lucy and the football.

I know what's going to happen. It keeps happening. They pretend like it won't happen but I know better.


And I'm still going to try anyway because I'm a sucker.

You're such a masochist. I'd advise coming up with a safe word for S3 in case they really go off the rails.

How about "there are five lights"?
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King Postwhore

Annie Werching passed away at 45!  R.I.P. 
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Orbert


jingle.boy

Did I see Moriarty in that trailer??

Quote from: Adami on January 27, 2023, 04:11:47 PM
At this point I'm Charlie Brown and Picard is that damn Lucy and the football.

I know what's going to happen. It keeps happening. They pretend like it won't happen but I know better.

And I'm still going to try anyway because I'm a sucker.

Same.  The only difference is, like S2, I'll have no problem if they go off the rails quickly.  I think I watched 1 Ep of S2, and with all the rage this thread was throwing at it, never bothered to go back to it.
Quote from: TAC on July 31, 2021, 06:55:07 PMIf I can do it, it's idiot proof.
Quote from: Stadler on January 03, 2024, 09:00:00 AMThat's a word salad - and take it from me, I know word salad
Quote from: hefdaddy42 on November 04, 2021, 05:14:36 AMI fear for the day when something happens on the right that is SO nuts that even Stadler says "That's crazy".

Adami

Quote from: jingle.boy on January 29, 2023, 06:18:39 PM
Did I see Moriarty in that trailer??

-sigh-....yes....yes you did.


Also newest and last trailer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lw0pg11OzCQ

This one looks completely atrocious and almost like they're just trolling the fans. It's like they said "Well, we clearly have way too much explosions and fighting and stuff.....so....let's keep doing that but also make fun of ourselves for doing it so people will be okay with it."
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jammindude

You what would be great?

If it was all those brain worms from Season 1!  It was all a conspiracy! You thought they were just a one off that disappeared and was forgotten...but NOOOOOOOOO!!! It was them all along!!!

soupytwist

Quote from: jammindude on January 29, 2023, 07:55:54 PM
You what would be great?

If it was all those brain worms from Season 1!  It was all a conspiracy! You thought they were just a one off that disappeared and was forgotten...but NOOOOOOOOO!!! It was them all along!!!

Ha!  I believe that was supposed to be the start of a big story arc for TNG but like you said it was never referred again................till now!

soupytwist

I'm just not sure these characters will fit into an arc based storytelling.

They should have just spent the first episode getting the old crew together - then a handful of episodes each telling a different story (like Trek used to do), then a 2 part finale.

hefdaddy42

Quote from: jingle.boy on January 29, 2023, 06:18:39 PM
Did I see Moriarty in that trailer??
More importantly, did I see the Narada in that trailer?

Boy, I hope not.
Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

gmillerdrake

Quote from: Adami on January 29, 2023, 07:21:08 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on January 29, 2023, 06:18:39 PM
Did I see Moriarty in that trailer??

-sigh-....yes....yes you did.


Also newest and last trailer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lw0pg11OzCQ

This one looks completely atrocious and almost like they're just trolling the fans. It's like they said "Well, we clearly have way too much explosions and fighting and stuff.....so....let's keep doing that but also make fun of ourselves for doing it so people will be okay with it."

I'm just going to wait for your assessment before even attempting to finish S2 (I think I'm four or five episodes shy of finishing that one) and then start S3. Was thoroughly unimpressed and bored with this show in S2 to the point I just gave up.....and I'm usually pretty good about finishing a show/season even if it sucks. But this one is just really bad.

Adami

I will happily be your Star Trek canary in the coalmine.  :lol
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Samsara

I'll tune in for Season 3. If it looks horrid by the end of episode 3, I'll check out. The trailer...didn't do much for me.

I think part of TNG's charm was the warmth and light. The whole television series was well-lit, and had this very familiar style to it. I'm not sure how else to describe it. Then everyone got cold and dark with the feature films, and I just never felt like TNG worked with that kind of production. Too early to tell, but this looks, based on the trailer, as more of the same.

gmillerdrake


jingle.boy

Quote from: Samsara on January 30, 2023, 03:14:39 PM
I'll tune in for Season 3. If it looks horrid by the end of episode 3, I'll check out. The trailer...didn't do much for me.

I think part of TNG's charm was the warmth and light. The whole television series was well-lit, and had this very familiar style to it. I'm not sure how else to describe it. Then everyone got cold and dark with the feature films, and I just never felt like TNG worked with that kind of production. Too early to tell, but this looks, based on the trailer, as more of the same.

I was thinking the same thing.  The Enterprise-D was always so bright and spacious.  Since then, ships have been getting progressively more dark and cramped.
Quote from: TAC on July 31, 2021, 06:55:07 PMIf I can do it, it's idiot proof.
Quote from: Stadler on January 03, 2024, 09:00:00 AMThat's a word salad - and take it from me, I know word salad
Quote from: hefdaddy42 on November 04, 2021, 05:14:36 AMI fear for the day when something happens on the right that is SO nuts that even Stadler says "That's crazy".

Adami

Quote from: jingle.boy on January 30, 2023, 03:37:01 PM
Quote from: Samsara on January 30, 2023, 03:14:39 PM
I'll tune in for Season 3. If it looks horrid by the end of episode 3, I'll check out. The trailer...didn't do much for me.

I think part of TNG's charm was the warmth and light. The whole television series was well-lit, and had this very familiar style to it. I'm not sure how else to describe it. Then everyone got cold and dark with the feature films, and I just never felt like TNG worked with that kind of production. Too early to tell, but this looks, based on the trailer, as more of the same.

I was thinking the same thing.  The Enterprise-D was always so bright and spacious.  Since then, ships have been getting progressively more dark and cramped.

I think Strange New Worlds Enterprise was decently bright and well lit. At least on par with TOS.

But yea, I remember watching Nemesis a week or so ago and they were having conversations in rooms that were essentially pitch black. It was odd.
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SoundscapeMN

Quote from: kingshmegland on January 29, 2023, 12:40:47 PM
Annie Werching passed away at 45!  R.I.P.

this is really sad at such a young age.

I have not seen her as the Borg queen, but I liked her quite a lot in Marvel's The Runaways.

hefdaddy42

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on January 30, 2023, 08:52:54 AM
Quote from: jingle.boy on January 29, 2023, 06:18:39 PM
Did I see Moriarty in that trailer??
More importantly, did I see the Narada in that trailer?

Boy, I hope not.
I was hoping for some reassurance that I did not, in fact, see what I thought I saw.
Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

Adami

First I had to google the name of the ship. It was familiar but not easily recognizable. Then when I saw what it was, I had two options. 1) Watch that damn trailer again to look for it, or 2) Shrug and do anything else.

I went with 2. Modern day trek ships are either federation style or have no memorable style to them. So did you see it? Maybe. You also may have seen 200 other ships that all look the same and don't matter.

The logical part of me knows that the Narada would have already been sent to the past long before Picard began. But then I remember that the writers don't care at all about anything and will do whatever they want.


So, in short, maybe?
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King Postwhore

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on January 31, 2023, 06:06:05 AM
Quote from: hefdaddy42 on January 30, 2023, 08:52:54 AM
Quote from: jingle.boy on January 29, 2023, 06:18:39 PM
Did I see Moriarty in that trailer??
More importantly, did I see the Narada in that trailer?

Boy, I hope not.
I was hoping for some reassurance that I did not, in fact, see what I thought I saw.

I only saw it once but I thought the same thing. 
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hefdaddy42

Romulans have been big bads in the Picard show, so it could be.

But I hope not, because I am not a fan of the Kelvin-verse in any way and want nothing relating to it in any "real Trek" properties.

Even one that's been as mediocre-to-bad as Picard.
Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

Orbert

Same here.  I guess we'll see.

Polarbear

Quote from: soupytwist on January 30, 2023, 12:10:30 AM
Quote from: jammindude on January 29, 2023, 07:55:54 PM
You what would be great?

If it was all those brain worms from Season 1!  It was all a conspiracy! You thought they were just a one off that disappeared and was forgotten...but NOOOOOOOOO!!! It was them all along!!!

Ha!  I believe that was supposed to be the start of a big story arc for TNG but like you said it was never referred again................till now!

I would actually be okay if the brain worms were the big bad of this final season! As far as I remember that TNG episode ended with the brain worms sending a message into deep space, and urging the rest of their race to conquer the Federation.

That would tie neatly into a obscure Season 1 TNG episode, and tie up that loose end. Somehow I doubt this will will happen, but I'd be down with this.

The final trailer looked OK..