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Re: Star Trek: Thread Space 9
« Reply #4760 on: August 12, 2023, 01:16:23 PM »
Yea. I’m digging SNW a lot more than the other shows. So happy to see it keep going. But I just read that they’re going to be bringing in even more TOS characters moving forward.

I just wish ST would move past this nostalgia phase. Sooooo much of modern Trek is nostalgia and I’m over it. Make something new and original in the spirit of ST and not needing to rely on reminding us about other ST all the time.

This complaint baffles me. From day 1….No from before day one when they announced a series about Pike’s Enterprise pre-TOS…it was obvious that they only had a limited timeline before they ran into the TOS years. So they really don’t have any choice but to make sure that, by the time Pike has his accident and Kirk takes over, the TOS cast is in place. Anyone who’s not already there would HAVE to be brought in at some point or none of this will make any sense at all.

I’m not shocked and surprised. I don’t not understand it.

I just don’t love it.
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Re: Star Trek: Thread Space 9
« Reply #4761 on: August 12, 2023, 01:57:37 PM »
I'm still having fun seeing how they fit the pieces together.  To me, it's simliar to the Star Wars prequels.  We all know where the characters end up, but there are still stories to tell about how they get there, and other characters along the way.  At first, I had trouble accepting the new versions of Chapel, Uhura, and some of the others.  Spock I thought was pretty good from the start IMO.  Then they started playing with canonical events and stories, but in Season 2 we've seen how things are on something of a trajectory to line up with where things are at the start of TOS.  It doesn't even feel like course correction; it's more like they allowed themselves to take a few left turns, then brought things back around, just for fun.  I like that.  It's an interesting study in writing, and what you can do with the characters but still keep things within canon.

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« Reply #4762 on: August 14, 2023, 05:35:44 AM »
A pretty great cliffhanger overall, but -

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« Reply #4763 on: August 15, 2023, 09:12:30 AM »
Finally caught the last 2 episodes of SNW's.   The musical one was something I feared, it's just not my thing - and this wasn't, but I can they put a lot of effort into it, so it's really unfair for me to be critical, so yeah good episode - just not for me.  The finale was fine, but I'm just not sold on this version of the Gorn at all, the new Scotty nailed the role straight away I thought (better than Pegg) so that's good, the cliffhanger is annoying - based on the strikes it'll be a long wait for season 3 unfortunately.
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« Reply #4764 on: August 17, 2023, 12:51:39 PM »
So the lack of Pike in season 2 had nothing to do with the writers or trying to force in Kirk and the TOS crew. Turns out, Mount's wife gave birth a few months before shooting began and he asked for a reduced role in the season in order to spend time with his wife and newborn. It apparently was to continue to be a very Pike centric show but they agreed to his request and re-jiggered a bunch of scripts and his shooting schedule to allow for it. I imagine that next season will be a return to Pike, whenever all the strikes end and they can actually work on it.
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Re: Star Trek: Thread Space 9
« Reply #4765 on: August 17, 2023, 06:16:51 PM »
So the lack of Pike in season 2 had nothing to do with the writers or trying to force in Kirk and the TOS crew. Turns out, Mount's wife gave birth a few months before shooting began and he asked for a reduced role in the season in order to spend time with his wife and newborn. It apparently was to continue to be a very Pike centric show but they agreed to his request and re-jiggered a bunch of scripts and his shooting schedule to allow for it. I imagine that next season will be a return to Pike, whenever all the strikes end and they can actually work on it.

Yeah....and honestly....I don't think the show 'suffered' from Mount's overall reduced role but this season by in large was just 'ok'. Mount drives that show and cast IMO and without him being the 'center' of it all it did lack a bit.

I thought the season started strong but finished kind of 'eh'......will still watch because it's loads better than Discovery but am definitely wanting to get more of Pike.
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« Reply #4766 on: September 02, 2023, 10:04:17 PM »
I’m taking the time to pull out my BluRay’s and do my very first start to finish binge watch of TOS. As much as I’m familiar with probably 90% of these episodes, I’ve never actually sat down and watched them from beginning to end.

Something struck me as The Menagerie started. We’ve all been thinking that SNW couldn’t have more than a 5 year lifespan, but Spock states here that he served under Pike for 11 years. So there’s that.
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« Reply #4767 on: September 03, 2023, 01:08:14 AM »
I’m taking the time to pull out my BluRay’s and do my very first start to finish binge watch of TOS. As much as I’m familiar with probably 90% of these episodes, I’ve never actually sat down and watched them from beginning to end.

Something struck me as The Menagerie started. We’ve all been thinking that SNW couldn’t have more than a 5 year lifespan, but Spock states here that he served under Pike for 11 years. So there’s that.

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Re: Star Trek: Thread Space 9
« Reply #4768 on: September 03, 2023, 07:15:49 AM »
I’m taking the time to pull out my BluRay’s and do my very first start to finish binge watch of TOS. As much as I’m familiar with probably 90% of these episodes, I’ve never actually sat down and watched them from beginning to end.

Something struck me as The Menagerie started. We’ve all been thinking that SNW couldn’t have more than a 5 year lifespan, but Spock states here that he served under Pike for 11 years. So there’s that.

There were a lot of false starts when I was trying to watch through TOS. It did eventually click with me and I enjoy it event though I rarely go back to watch TOS episodes.

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« Reply #4769 on: September 03, 2023, 07:27:23 AM »
A few years ago I started (and this year finished) my complete ST rewatch (minus the animated series) and TOS was not always easy to get through. I made sure not skip anything but really wanted to at times.
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« Reply #4770 on: September 03, 2023, 08:12:15 AM »
A few years ago I started (and this year finished) my complete ST rewatch (minus the animated series) and TOS was not always easy to get through. I made sure not skip anything but really wanted to at times.

I will be going through the animated series as well. It’s a part of my boxed set, and since the rights were re-acquired it has been officially declared “season 4 of TOS”.  It’s the same writers and cast. And as far as I know, they mostly used story ideas from what would’ve been season 4 or stories they couldn’t use before because of budgetary issues.

Never understood those who dismiss TAS just because it’s animated. It’s actually not the “Saturday Morning Kids Show” that it appears to be. I’ve watched a few episodes and it’s surprisingly good.
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Re: Star Trek: Thread Space 9
« Reply #4771 on: September 03, 2023, 08:18:49 AM »
I might watch it one day. I think for me the animation style just was hard to sit through. I saw an episode or two and it was good but the style was distracting.
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« Reply #4772 on: September 03, 2023, 06:20:00 PM »
Since there is now a streaming service that actually serves the new Star Trek shows in Sweden, I got around to binging SNW over the last week. Definitely feels a lot closer in spirit and tone to the TNG-Voyager era, and the cast dynamic is great. I did like discovery but I think that was a show that felt like it wanted to be grittier for the sake of being modern, whereas SNW seemed to embrace the whimsey while retaining a bit of the darker edge at times, which I prefer. All in all, looking forward to seeing where this crew goes.
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Re: Star Trek: Thread Space 9
« Reply #4773 on: September 03, 2023, 08:52:00 PM »
I might watch it one day. I think for me the animation style just was hard to sit through. I saw an episode or two and it was good but the style was distracting.

I watched it as kid, in reruns in the mid to late 70's. The 70's cartoons looking back were hideous compared to the 50's cartoons.
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« Reply #4774 on: September 03, 2023, 10:08:36 PM »
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Re: Star Trek: Thread Space 9
« Reply #4775 on: September 04, 2023, 02:14:40 PM »
I keep forgetting that I like musicals. :lol

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« Reply #4776 on: September 09, 2023, 06:36:27 AM »
A few years ago I started (and this year finished) my complete ST rewatch (minus the animated series) and TOS was not always easy to get through. I made sure not skip anything but really wanted to at times.

I will be going through the animated series as well. It’s a part of my boxed set, and since the rights were re-acquired it has been officially declared “season 4 of TOS”.  It’s the same writers and cast. And as far as I know, they mostly used story ideas from what would’ve been season 4 or stories they couldn’t use before because of budgetary issues.

Never understood those who dismiss TAS just because it’s animated. It’s actually not the “Saturday Morning Kids Show” that it appears to be. I’ve watched a few episodes and it’s surprisingly good.

James Blish published novelettes of all the animated stories and they were very very good.

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« Reply #4777 on: September 16, 2023, 12:52:01 AM »
Lower Decks continues being fun.  :)
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« Reply #4778 on: September 30, 2023, 08:29:46 AM »
That's funny, I just came here to say I'm officially off it. I stopped halfway through the current episode, I don't need constant F-bombs in my Star Trek. Started watching the old animated series from the 70s instead.

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« Reply #4779 on: October 02, 2023, 07:17:27 AM »
Fair enough. Was that the episode with the betazoids where they all get super emotional, by any chance? The bar scene was, I thought, quite a stressful watch for an animated show!
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Re: Star Trek: Thread Space 9
« Reply #4780 on: October 05, 2023, 03:55:23 PM »
Any of my fellow Niners getting the Autobiography of Benjamin Sisko next month?

During The Sisko Day events in the spring, the author had to stay silent on some direct questions about Sisko. But he slyly hinted that questions about Sisko's existence post-DS9 would be answered. Really looking forward to the book.
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« Reply #4781 on: October 06, 2023, 04:44:37 PM »
I haven't even heard of that but holy shit I definitely will get it.

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« Reply #4782 on: October 06, 2023, 04:47:10 PM »
Any of my fellow Niners getting the Autobiography of Benjamin Sisko next month?

During The Sisko Day events in the spring, the author had to stay silent on some direct questions about Sisko. But he slyly hinted that questions about Sisko's existence post-DS9 would be answered. Really looking forward to the book.

What is that? Like a book by and about Avery Brooks? Or a novel about Sisko? Haven’t there been a number of those?
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« Reply #4783 on: Today at 06:12:28 PM »
So I never paid much attention to Voyager when it came out, other than I liked The Doctor. Well now my wife has been binge-watching due our son-in-law's recommendation and she is really liking it. I've caught quite a bit peripherally and must say it looks better than I remember because I gave up on it too soon. The actor playing Neelix is particularly good.

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« Reply #4784 on: Today at 09:35:17 PM »
We watched Voyager the entire run.  It had some low points, but overall it was pretty good.  A lot of people found Neelix to be annoying, but I was fine with him, and Ethan Phillips was one of the better actors on that show.