Star Trek: Thread Space 9

[XJDenton]

I don't recognize the shot of the Trill babes making out.  DS9?  I've only been through that series once.

Season 4 episode 6, "Rejoined".

[Polarbear]

New Picard episode wasn't as good as the last 3. Still Decent!

I appreciated the added depth given to Vadic, making her slightly less like a cartoon megalomaniac and into a somewhat of a tragic villain. It's also clear that she is just a goon taking orders from the real villain. I wonder who that might be...

And props to LeVar Burton! That dude still has crazy acting chops, despite not working as a full time actor in years!

[hefdaddy42]

I'm sure everyone will be shocked, but I thought the episode was pretty meh.

Nothing awful about it. And I really loved the stuff between Brent and Levar. But the rest was just generic and boring.

Whatever's backstory is cliche and uninteresting. Thus making the overall plot uncompelling to me. And while I really am digging the actor who plays Jack, I am completely over his character. He's nothing but a living mystery box. Just mystery after mystery and not much else to go on.

Shrug.




Oh. I was initially really enjoying that surprising cameo (kudos to keeping both of them thus far under wraps) until it became pointless. Hope it comes back around in a more meaningful. The Ro cameo was great. This was just meaningless unfortunately. Hope whatever other cameos they have kept secret have more emotional weight. .

I...agree with all of this.

[soupytwist]

Yeah bit of a dud that one.  Stalled the plot to throw in a pointless cameo (that nobody wanted) and they gave a terrible performance too  If you are doing Changelings maybe include cameos from the show that heavily featured Changelings.....

[Adami]

Yeah bit of a dud that one.  Stalled the plot to throw in a pointless cameo (that nobody wanted) and they gave a terrible performance too  If you are doing Changelings maybe include cameos from the show that heavily featured Changelings.....

I get it though. 7 would go to people she trusts most and he's on that list. She's not going to find Bashir or anything, they don't know each other.

But it was pointless. I was happy to see it (I liked voyager a lot more than you) until it was revealed that it meant nothing.

[soupytwist]

Yeah bit of a dud that one.  Stalled the plot to throw in a pointless cameo (that nobody wanted) and they gave a terrible performance too  If you are doing Changelings maybe include cameos from the show that heavily featured Changelings.....

I get it though. 7 would go to people she trusts most and he's on that list. She's not going to find Bashir or anything, they don't know each other.

But it was pointless. I was happy to see it (I liked voyager a lot more than you) until it was revealed that it meant nothing.

Could have just given that job to Worf.

[Adami]

Huh? You lost me there.


Speaking of Worf, he seems like one of the OG people that they have no idea what to do with. All we got so far is that he's a pacifist who has slaughtered a ton of people in cold blood when he didn't have to. That's really all they've given us.

[soupytwist]

Huh? You lost me there.

I meant they could have used Worf instead of 7 as the person who reaches out to a former crew member, then you could have a DS9 cameo, someone whose encountered the Changelings.   Maybe no one from that cast is available though.  And yes as you've said that would have given Worf something to do.

[Adami]

Huh? You lost me there.

I meant they could have used Worf instead of 7 as the person who reaches out to a former crew member, then you could have a DS9 cameo, someone whose encountered the Changelings.   Maybe no one from that cast is available though.  And yes as you've said that would have given Worf something to do.

Ohhh I gotcha. I thought you meant Worf instead of Tuvok. Yea, that makes sense too. Both make sense, but this way we got a pointless cameo.

I guess I'm curious who else they plan on bringing back. They've name dropped Janeway a few times, so maybe? I dunno. Or maybe end it with Sisko coming back and just deus ex machinaing it.

Also, am I remembering wrong, or were Picard and Beverly ready to just straight up execute Vadik? Insanely not only out of character from who they were on TNG but who they are on the damn show thus far.

[Polarbear]

Yeah bit of a dud that one.  Stalled the plot to throw in a pointless cameo (that nobody wanted) and they gave a terrible performance too  If you are doing Changelings maybe include cameos from the show that heavily featured Changelings.....

Huh? I wouldn't say Tim Russ gave a bad performance at all. He was spot on as Tuvok, and he was just as I remembered him from VOY.

I hope we get to learn the fate of real Tuvok, and I hope he is ok.

Regarding other cameos, Janeway would be logical given how many times they have mentioned her.

Here is my shot in the dark: The rogue changelings are working for Pah-Wraith possessed Dukat who somehow escaped the fire caves. I'm not sure it even makes any sense. Just something about the way the head was talking to Vadic made me think of Dukat..

[DoctorAction]

Messy, I thought.

It doesn't have tension, emotional wallop or excitement, does it? It has some great acting and looks amazing, still.

I liked seeing Tuvok. He was my favourite thing on VOY along with the doctor.

[soupytwist]

Yeah bit of a dud that one.  Stalled the plot to throw in a pointless cameo (that nobody wanted) and they gave a terrible performance too  If you are doing Changelings maybe include cameos from the show that heavily featured Changelings.....

Huh? I wouldn't say Tim Russ gave a bad performance at all. He was spot on as Tuvok, and he was just as I remembered him from VOY.

Yup, bad.

I reckon Shaw is dead next episode.

[soupytwist]

Also, am I remembering wrong, or were Picard and Beverly ready to just straight up execute Vadik? Insanely not only out of character from who they were on TNG but who they are on the damn show thus far.

I didn't mind that, they did at least moralise it though first, and it followed a huge dull exposition dump from Vadik on her origins, which to be honest I was just glad that was over.

[ReaperKK]

I really enjoyed the last. If they are going to do this nostalgia trip this season I'm going to be really disappointed if we don't get someone from DS9 other than a small photo of Odo.

[Adami]

I really enjoyed the last. If they are going to do this nostalgia trip this season I'm going to be really disappointed if we don't get someone from DS9 other than a small photo of Odo.

A Kira or Quark cameo wouldn't surprise me. But I'm still hoping for god Sisko to save the day and beat back the dominion a second time.



Also, this is supposed to just be a small(ish) rebel group of changelings right? Can't we have some good changelings show up to help? That would be a cool twist.

[jammindude]

I really enjoyed the last. If they are going to do this nostalgia trip this season I'm going to be really disappointed if we don't get someone from DS9 other than a small photo of Odo.

A Kira or Quark cameo wouldn't surprise me. But I'm still hoping for god Sisko to save the day and beat back the dominion a second time.



Also, this is supposed to just be a small(ish) rebel group of changelings right? Can't we have some good changelings show up to help? That would be a cool twist.

Like when Hugh helped with Lore? 

[Adami]

Sure! But the borg weren't at peace with the federation at the time. Similarly when the federation teamed up with the Jem Hadar for a mission.

[Dream Team]

What's everyone thinking, Jack is likely part changeling? Too obvious?

[jammindude]

What's everyone thinking, Jack is likely part changeling? Too obvious?

I'm thinking he's the mutated virus...he exists solely to eliminate the Changelings.

[sings] "Bred to kill...not to care...do just as we saaaaaay... [/sings]

[DoctorAction]

Did you guys hear about this? To me, it sounds about as much fun as having my arse filled with potato salad by a high pressure hose. 


https://trekmovie.com/2023/03/30/breaking-star-trek-starfleet-academy-series-officially-annnounced/

[Polarbear]

Did you guys hear about this? To me, it sounds about as much fun as having my arse filled with potato salad by a high pressure hose. 


https://trekmovie.com/2023/03/30/breaking-star-trek-starfleet-academy-series-officially-annnounced/

Yup!

Alex Kurtzman seems hellbent on burning Star Trek to the ground on his way out the door. At this point Paramount should just take Star Trek away from him, and give it to Terry Matalas.

[soupytwist]

"Kurtzman will be co-showrunner alongside Noga Landau (creator of CW's Nancy Drew and writer on Syfy's The Magicians)."

I tried The Magicians a few years ago, it didn't hold my interest beyond a few episodes though.

Can we get Ira Steven Behr back on Star Trek.

[ReaperKK]

Man if this is that rumored show with Tilly it's going to be a tough watch. Tilly was one of worst characters of Discovery, although she did get better in later seasons.

[Adami]

I dunno about you guys, but I am absolutely pumped to see a crew of very diverse cadets have to work together to uncovery the deeply entrenched conspiracy and escape the ruthless fist of the Terran Empire Federation.

[El Barto]

I dunno about you guys, but I am absolutely pumped to see a crew of very diverse cadets have to work together to uncovery the deeply entrenched conspiracy and escape the ruthless fist of the Terran Empire Federation.

You might be right, but it won't be a crew of diverse cadets. It'll be 12 gung-ho, hyper-nationalistic members of Red Squad.

[ZirconBlue]

"Kurtzman will be co-showrunner alongside Noga Landau (creator of CW's Nancy Drew and writer on Syfy's The Magicians)."

I tried The Magicians a few years ago, it didn't hold my interest beyond a few episodes though.

Can we get Ira Steven Behr back on Star Trek.

The Magicians gets much better as it goes along. 

[Adami]

I dunno about you guys, but I am absolutely pumped to see a crew of very diverse cadets have to work together to uncovery the deeply entrenched conspiracy and escape the ruthless fist of the Terran Empire Federation.

You might be right, but it won't be a crew of diverse cadets. It'll be 12 gung-ho, hyper-nationalistic members of Red Squad.

From the people that made Stacey Abrams president of earth? Nah. It'll be a bunch of cadets from UCLA. I can see a bunch of hyper-nationalist Red Squad dudes being antagonists.

[El Barto]

I dunno about you guys, but I am absolutely pumped to see a crew of very diverse cadets have to work together to uncovery the deeply entrenched conspiracy and escape the ruthless fist of the Terran Empire Federation.

You might be right, but it won't be a crew of diverse cadets. It'll be 12 gung-ho, hyper-nationalistic members of Red Squad.

From the people that made Stacey Abrams president of earth? Nah. It'll be a bunch of cadets from UCLA. I can see a bunch of hyper-nationalist Red Squad dudes being antagonists.

Fair enough. I just know that Red Squad will be a huge part of it. I'm thinking they're the only reason to do the Academy show in the first place. Probably the Sec 31 recruiter factors into it, as well, so we can spin off to an official 24 set in the new Star Trek universe.

[hefdaddy42]

I would much rather see a show about Captain Shaw and his crew.  Star Trek: Titan.

[DoctorAction]

I would much rather see a show about Captain Shaw and his crew.  Star Trek: Titan.

Totally.

[soupytwist]

I would much rather see a show about Captain Shaw and his crew.  Star Trek: Titan.

Yeah.  But I don't think Shaw is going to survive much longer.

[ReaperKK]

I would much rather see a show about Captain Shaw and his crew.  Star Trek: Titan.

Completely agree

[Adami]

And to shock you all even more.....I actually liked about 75% of the newest episode.

I won't go into spoilers, so I'll be brief.

I still think the plot with Vadik or whatever and Jack and all of that is REALLY dumb and I just can't get into it.

The character moments are great and luckily this episode focused on that. Some great stuff with every original member and I loved it so much. Loved how it ended (minus the ending with the Jack plot) and looking forward to where it goes.

There was a scene with Riker and Troi (Not much of a spoiler there) and before he started talking I remember thinking that if he calls her that term again I'm going to scream since he only called her it occasionally originally and now it's all he says. So then he says it and she immediately points out that she needs to teach him a new term for her. So hopefully it'll die.

[Polarbear]

Yeah, back to being great after last weeks episode, which was a bit of a dud.

There are only two episodes left. They wrapped up some things this week, but still they have to wrap a lot of plot threads in just two episodes.

Looking forward to the final two episodes!

[hefdaddy42]

Good episode, but I'm really tired of the fact that, in this season that is supposed to be a celebration of TNG, the main character is Jack.

Fuck that guy already.