Star Trek: Thread Space 9

[Nick]

Old one: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=38049.0

[BlobVanDam]

SPACE. THE FINAL FRONTIER.

[Adami]

These are the enterprises of the starship Voyager.

[Nick]

To boldly use the force where the force has never been used before!

[Kotowboy]

STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS > 2001











*runs*

[Kotowboy]

I do recall requesting multiple times that we name a thread

" The United Threaderation of Planets "

Ok...

At least call it " Deep Thread 9 "

[abydos]

Since there are some people who started watching DS9, SPOILERS, but this scene never gets old for me. So good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLp_HJl-0nI

[Kotowboy]

I love when they have some little device that just has flashing LEDs on it so you know it's doing something.

[hefdaddy42]

Starship Excelsior Fiftieth Anniversary Show

The audio drama Starship Excelsior has announced the release of its latest episode, Tomorrow's Excelsior.

The USS Excelsior is "on a two-year mission of exploration on the far side of the galaxy," having arrived there after "passing through [an] ancient Iconian Gateway."

In Tomorrow's Excelsior, "Five decades after the U.S.S. Enterprise's five-year mission, the Starship Excelsior, NCC-2000, is patrolling the Romulan Neutral Zone, her crew in mourning after a devastating loss. When the Excelsior receives an impossible distress call, from a ship claiming to be the Starship Excelsior, NCC-2000-C, her legendary crew is drawn into a crisis that threatens the galaxy — past, present, and future!"

Half a dozen familiar Trek names are associated with the production, including two regulars from the original series, and various guest stars from the original series (including movies) and from Star Trek: Voyager.

Anyone ever listen to any of these before?

[Adami]

So apparently Discovery has been delayed until May.

So I'm still wondering when we will get confirmed details on the show. I want cast, characters, list of references going to be made, all of it.

[BlobVanDam]

I think they must be running a little behind on all of that stuff if they've delayed it. I don't mind a delay if it means the show won't be rushed. They have to get this right.

[hefdaddy42]

I caught "I, Borg", "The Inner Light", and "Time's Arrow Pt. 1".

Mostly good, but they got too soft on Hugh.

[Kotowboy]

Need an individual Borg you can send back to the collective ?


HUGH ya gonna call ?

[El Barto]

I caught "I, Borg", "The Inner Light", and "Time's Arrow Pt. 1".

Mostly good, but they got too soft on Hugh.

Voyager did I, Borg better, I, think. Time's Arrow suffers from one of my big problems with TNG, which is that the second part of a two-parter usually falls somewhere between "not as good as the first part" and "holy shit that was awful!" This one is definitely in the latter category. I didn't even mind Mark Twain and Guinan, but the episode itself failed on many levels, despite the first half being very good.

[hefdaddy42]

Yeah, these episodes I haven't caught since they first aired.  I will catch Pt. 2 tonight or tomorrow sometime.

[Kotowboy]

In Voyager the Borg kinda went from " OMG unstoppable threat - avoid at all costs " to " Meh - we'll work something out as usual ".

[El Barto]

In Voyager the Borg kinda went from " OMG unstoppable threat - avoid at all costs " to " Meh - we'll work something out as usual ".

Yup. And it was the Borg Queen from FC that started that bad trend.

[soupytwist]

Times Arrow has to be in the conversation about worst Star Trek two parter doesn't it?

[Kotowboy]

I can't stand the way the actor played Mark Twain.

Every Single Sentence?? Ended in a really annoying UPswing??

Literally everything He SAID?? Went up at the END??

Enjoy that for two HOURS??

[hefdaddy42]

Well, I enjoyed the first hour, for sure.

[El Barto]

Times Arrow has to be in the conversation about worst Star Trek two parter doesn't it?

No. Descent is so much worse than anything they've done there's really no conversation to be had. That's awful by regular TNG standards, much less the short list of two-parters.

I can't stand the way the actor played Mark Twain.

Every Single Sentence?? Ended in a really annoying UPswing??

Literally everything He SAID?? Went up at the END??
Enjoy that for two HOURS??

My problem with him wasn't so much the actor, but the overly preachy dialog that sounded out of place and condescending as all fuck. He was just there to insult all of us.

Well, I enjoyed the first hour, for sure.

Like I said, the first hour was very good. Data as the Connecticut Yankee was a good premise.

[soupytwist]

Well, I enjoyed the first hour, for sure.

Jerry Hardin AKA Deep Throat in The X-Files.

Oh Yeah Descent - The Borg and Lore teamup.  How can this not be great - oh yeah like that...

[Kotowboy]

SOooooooooooo........


I've been binge watching Star Trek Voyager and ...



..I..I think I now prefer it to TNG.



I'm really glad I got into TNG first. I don't think i could enjoy it now if i'd never seen it.

[hefdaddy42]

My problem with him wasn't so much the actor, but the overly preachy dialog that sounded out of place and condescending as all fuck. He was just there to insult all of us.

You don't think we deserve it?

[soupytwist]

SOooooooooooo........


I've been binge watching Star Trek Voyager and ...



..I..I think I now prefer it to TNG.



I'm really glad I got into TNG first. I don't think i could enjoy it now if i'd never seen it.

You clearly haven't binged to Threshold yet. 

[Kotowboy]

I've seen that "episode" before.

I skipped it.

And TNG has some terrible episodes too.



My favourite thing about Threshold is that - not only can The Doc get Tom and Kathryn back to human - but he can restore all their memories and the correct age etc etc. Lickety Split.

The EMH is an actual God.

[BlobVanDam]

TNG has many episodes worse than Threshold.

[El Barto]

My problem with him wasn't so much the actor, but the overly preachy dialog that sounded out of place and condescending as all fuck. He was just there to insult all of us.

You don't think we deserve it?

Not from the likes of Roddenberry. But whether we deserve it or not isn't the point. I watch ST to be entertained. Not to hear about how awful I am for being born in 20th century America. While there has always been some of that commentary, it's rarely as in your face as demonstrated by Mark Fucking Twain.

[hefdaddy42]

Yeah, but he was addressing 19th century Americans.  At least, in Pt. 1 he was.  And Twain certainly had a negative view of the general public.

[El Barto]

Yeah, but he was addressing 19th century Americans.  At least, in Pt. 1 he was.  And Twain certainly had a negative view of the general public.

Certainly true. I've been listening to audiobooks of his novels recently, helluva guy, and he had no love for his fellow man; that's for sure. However, the criticisms he levied in the episode were even more applicable to our society than that of the Duke and the King. At least that's the way I felt after watching it. Now I skip that half altogether.

[Kotowboy]

TNG has many episodes worse than Threshold.

Code Of Honour being one.

Name 4 more

[El Barto]

About a third of season 7. Specifics might be Sub Rosa, Fistful of Datas, the one were the Enterprise evolves and thinks it's a train and the one with Geordi's mom.

[soupytwist]

Shades of Grey.
Masks.
The one where Wesley steps on some grass.
The one with the Irish stereotype race.

But I still put Threshold last.  The thing about a bad TNG episode is it still had a better cast/characters than Voyager, so you still got Picard being awesome, Ryker being snarky, Worf deadpanning, Data misunderstanding things for comedy effect etc....Whereas aside from the Doc Voyager didn't really have any great characters to carry those duff episodes.

[Kotowboy]

The one were the Enterprise evolves and thinks it's a train.

Ugh. Every time I was scrolling thru the TNG eps and it came to that one - the synopsis made it sound awesome - then i'd start the ep and be like oh bollocks it's THIS one....

I hate holodeck episodes. They're largely a hugely missed opportunity.

You have the chance to create a realm where literally anything is possible. The rules of physics or euclidian geometry don't apply.

Yet you use it to put a guy in a suit of armor on a train.


Voyager was no better. Every holodeck episode was in Sandrines or Da Vinci's workshop.

No imagination AT ALL.

[The King in Crimson]

Times Arrow has to be in the conversation about worst Star Trek two parter doesn't it?

It's up there for sure. Birthright is always the one duking it out with Time's Arrow for which two-parter I want to see less. At least Descent functions as two hours of dumb, semi-enjoyable action but it's probably number three on the list for me.

TNG has many episodes worse than Threshold.

I was all set to disagree with this, but after thinking about it for a bit, I think you might unfortunately be right.