Official NHL 2016-2017 Thread

[KevShmev]

I agreed with the 5-minute major and game misconduct. It was, after all, a cross check to the head.  However, I do not think it was premeditated or anything like that.  Like has been said, it was a bang-bang play, and it was just bad timing for Crosby that he fell right at that exact moment.

Also, if the league started protecting players more by giving stiffer penalties, Crosby would pay as well. Remember that he jacked an opponent between his legs with his stick near the end of the season.  And no, this is not a "he deserved it" post, but I am not going to feel too terribly sorry for Crosby for suffering a bad hit when he does stuff like that.

[LieLowTheWantedMan]

I hope he's okay though. He's gonna have to start considering his life after hockey soon. Concussions ruin lives. Not saying he should retire but he'll have to start weighing that.

[mikeyd23]

I agreed with the 5-minute major and game misconduct. It was, after all, a cross check to the head.  However, I do not think it was premeditated or anything like that.  Like has been said, it was a bang-bang play, and it was just bad timing for Crosby that he fell right at that exact moment.

Also, if the league started protecting players more by giving stiffer penalties, Crosby would pay as well. Remember that he jacked an opponent between his legs with his stick near the end of the season.  And no, this is not a "he deserved it" post, but I am not going to feel too terribly sorry for Crosby for suffering a bad hit when he does stuff like that.

Man, I was with you till the last part. 

It was bad timing. The league should protect the players more. That includes when Sid commits a penalty, totally agree. But let's not pretend like Sid is some dirty player. If you truly believe that, you haven't actually watched him play much at all. He's one of the classiest players out there, on and off the ice, he's just held under a bigger microscope than any other player. So when he does commit and penalty or get away with committing a penalty you just hear about it more, that's all.

Man, I'm really starting to sound like a Pen's fanboy here, sorry that's not my intention.

I hope he's okay though. He's gonna have to start considering his life after hockey soon. Concussions ruin lives. Not saying he should retire but he'll have to start weighing that.

Well he's had what, four or five recorded ones in the NHL? Not a terrible amount, but definitely should be a cause for pause.

[jingle.boy]

I'm starting to feel he's gonna end up with a shortened career - like he's this generation's version of Lindros.

[King Postwhore]

I'm starting to feel he's gonna end up with a shortened career - like he's this generation's version of Lindros.

Same with Mario. 

[Nick]

I'm starting to feel he's gonna end up with a shortened career - like he's this generation's version of Lindros.

Same with Mario. 

This is not a "he deserved it" post, but I am not going to feel too terribly sorry for Mario for suffering a bad hit when he jumped on so many heads himself.

[jingle.boy]

I'm starting to feel he's gonna end up with a shortened career - like he's this generation's version of Lindros.

Same with Mario.

Yeah, but Mario wasn't concussion related.

Geez Nick... who pissed in your corn flakes this morning??  You probably thought Pelle Lindbergh had it coming too! 

[Nick]

I'm starting to feel he's gonna end up with a shortened career - like he's this generation's version of Lindros.

Same with Mario.

Yeah, but Mario wasn't concussion related.

Geez Nick... who pissed in your corn flakes this morning??  You probably thought Pelle Lindbergh had it coming too! 

[jingle.boy]

@ me...



I was never a big NES player.

[red barchetta]

It's very unfortunate for the Pens.  There should have been a penalty to Oveshkin with that stick on the back of Crosby.  It is not accidental and is quite a big shot.  Then he falls and got the cross check to his head.  Not intentional though you are always responsible of your hockey stick.  I hate to see talented players getting taken out like that.  Crosby is an amazing player and still the best of the league.  He is always there at soon 30 years old.  He plays hard and gets a lot of bad treatment but he is strong.  Obviously, when you go without no limit on a star player or a great goalie, you eventually get a good chance of taking the key player out.  It happens to Montreal's Carey Price a few years ago when New-York's Kreider went flying on him.  If it is what it takes to win, the NHL are doing ok with it.  The big picture of that is that suspensions are ridiculous in that league.  It is a joke through the season and we all know that referees are blind during the playoffs.

[pogoowner]

It's very unfortunate for the Pens.  There should have been a penalty to Oveshkin with that stick on the back of Crosby.  It is not accidental and is quite a big shot.  Then he falls and got the cross check to his head.  Not intentional though you are always responsible of your hockey stick.  I hate to see talented players getting taken out like that.  Crosby is an amazing player and still the best of the league.  He is always there at soon 30 years old.  He plays hard and gets a lot of bad treatment but he is strong.  Obviously, when you go without no limit on a star player or a great goalie, you eventually get a good chance of taking the key player out.  It happens to Montreal's Carey Price a few years ago when New-York's Kreider went flying on him.  If it is what it takes to win, the NHL are doing ok with it.  The big picture of that is that suspensions are ridiculous in that league.  It is a joke through the season and we all know that referees are blind during the playoffs.

The NHL is the worst league at protecting its star players. I'm not really sure what goes through their heads.

[gmillerdrake]

    Just gonna start laughing at these friggin calls.

[TAC]

   Just gonna start laughing at these friggin calls.

What do you mean? Looked like Subban had an oweee!

[gmillerdrake]

   Just gonna start laughing at these friggin calls.

What do you mean? Looked like Subban had an oweee!

Exactly. That 'slash' is done by every player every shift. It was on Subban so they called it because he held his hand.

The Preds are the new Hawks when it comes to getting touched and whining about it....AND getting the calls.

[gmillerdrake]

This is fucking reached bullshit levels as far as officiating.

[Nick]

This is fucking reached bullshit levels as far as officiating.

Yeah, I just watched them push Allen out of the way as Neal shot a no look spinning shot from the blue line.

[gmillerdrake]

This is fucking reached bullshit levels as far as officiating.

Yeah, I just watched them push Allen out of the way as Neal shot a no look spinning shot from the blue line.

I get your teasing but they fucked the Blues with the Power Play call when everyone was scrumming but somehow the Blues get the extra penalty.

Or not calling the hit on Boumeister when the guy left his skates

Or not calling the high stick to Petrangelos face

But calling a baby tap to Subban

Sure officiating doesn't win or lose the game but they can dictate momentum. 

[KevShmev]

I didn't see the game tonight (was at a concert), and from the sound of things, I'm glad I didn't.

[TheCountOfNYC]

The Rangers looked much better tonight than they did in the first two games. They made some adjustments and AV switched up the lines a little bit and the difference was night and day. I still have my doubts about them making it out of this series as I believe that the Senators are legit, but I feel like if they keep playing like this, they have a chance.

[mikeyd23]

I'm starting to feel he's gonna end up with a shortened career - like he's this generation's version of Lindros.

Same with Mario. 

This is not a "he deserved it" post, but I am not going to feel too terribly sorry for Mario for suffering a bad hit when he jumped on so many heads himself.

Bro, Mario got cancer.... What the heck?

[Nick]

I'm starting to feel he's gonna end up with a shortened career - like he's this generation's version of Lindros.

Same with Mario. 

This is not a "he deserved it" post, but I am not going to feel too terribly sorry for Mario for suffering a bad hit when he jumped on so many heads himself.

Bro, Mario got cancer.... What the heck?

Um... again...

[mikeyd23]

 

Sorry completely missed that post!

Carry on...

[LieLowTheWantedMan]

Looks like the Oscar is going to Bonino this year.

[Nick]

Wow. Bonino had the series ending goal last year and the acting job to put the finish on the game this year.

Caps played the better game, but came up short. And as I said earlier, they can continue to play the better game, but chances are the Pens will get another win through the next four and be advancing.

[jingle.boy]

Yeah, the refs aren't going to be too impressed being punk'd like that. Wouldn't be surprised if Bonnino doesn't get any leeway next game - either a cheap penalty called against him, or the Caps could hack the shit out of him for free.

Terrible review in Edm - that 1st Ducks goal looked pretty clear to me that Perry bumped Talbot's blocker, preventing him from attempting the save.

Edit - and now the 2nd goal cannot be offside-challenged because they lost their timeout.

[LieLowTheWantedMan]

Yeah, the refs aren't going to be too impressed being punk'd like that. Wouldn't be surprised if Bonnino doesn't get any leeway next game - either a cheap penalty called against him, or the Caps could hack the shit out of him for free.

Terrible review in Edm - that 1st Ducks goal looked pretty clear to me that Perry bumped Talbot's blocker, preventing him from attempting the save.

Edit - and now the 2nd goal cannot be offside-challenged because they lost their timeout.

Yeah, I'd be pretty angry if I were an Oilers fan right now.

[mikeyd23]

Wow, this Pens team. Crosby out. Sheary out. Letang out. Murray out.

Up 3-1 on the President's Trophy winners. Unreal.

Also - hearing some rumors around Pittsburgh that initial signs are looking good for Sid, it'll be up in the air still cause it is a concussion, and historically he has had set backs but the thinking seems to be this might be a short one.

[TAC]

Marc Andre Fluery is playing out of his mind. Good for him.

[jingle.boy]

Marc Andre Fluery is playing out of his mind. Good for him.

Just as Murray "stole" the starting job from him last year, it's Fleury's turn.  At this pace, he's the Conn Smythe winner.

[mikeyd23]

Marc Andre Fluery is playing out of his mind. Good for him.

Just as Murray "stole" the starting job from him last year, it's Fleury's turn.  At this pace, he's the Conn Smythe winner.

Agreed, and unless Flower falls apart in these playoffs, it'll be interesting to see what the Pens do with the goalie situation moving forward. Any other off season, they would just keep both guys and let it figure itself out, but with the expansion draft, it would be challenging to keep both. Frankly, I'm not completely sold on Murry yet. I know he's younger, cheaper and potentially has more upside, I'm just not sold on his durability and consistency over a 82 game season and playoffs. 

[gmillerdrake]

Marc Andre Fluery is playing out of his mind. Good for him.

Just as Murray "stole" the starting job from him last year, it's Fleury's turn.  At this pace, he's the Conn Smythe winner.

Ehh....I'd say Pecca Rinne has a pretty good claim as well

[jingle.boy]

Marc Andre Fluery is playing out of his mind. Good for him.

Just as Murray "stole" the starting job from him last year, it's Fleury's turn.  At this pace, he's the Conn Smythe winner.

Ehh....I'd say Pecca Rinne has a pretty good claim as well

True - but the Preds didn't lose their #1 D-man before the playoffs, or have the other injuries (as already mentioned) that the Pens have.

[gmillerdrake]

Marc Andre Fluery is playing out of his mind. Good for him.

Just as Murray "stole" the starting job from him last year, it's Fleury's turn.  At this pace, he's the Conn Smythe winner.

Ehh....I'd say Pecca Rinne has a pretty good claim as well

True - but the Preds didn't lose their #1 D-man before the playoffs, or have the other injuries (as already mentioned) that the Pens have.

...but....the Preds aren't the defending Cup Champs. They are a Wild Card team. I think being the goalie for a Wild Card team that is playing lights out is a bit tougher than being the Goalie for a Cup Championship team, no matter the injury report.

[mikeyd23]

In most cases I'd agree with you, but because of the way the NHL does the playoff format, the defending champs have actually had the hardest road thus far, playing 2 teams that finished in the top 4 in the league during the regular season with the Pens being one of the other top four teams.

If the Pens got into the playoffs as a wildcard team the level of competition would have actually been easier for them.

[gmillerdrake]

In most cases I'd agree with you, but because of the way the NHL does the playoff format, the defending champs have actually had the hardest road thus far, playing 2 teams that finished in the top 4 in the league during the regular season with the Pens being one of the other top four teams.

The Preds have played the #1 then #3 team.

You have a good point about the retarded playoff format the NHL is using...but, all things being equal Rinne has lost 1 game....with a 1.33 GA and .953 save percentage. Fleury GA is 2.40 and a .935 save percentage. Statistically it's not even close on the GA and the level of competition they've faced is for all intents and purposes 'even'.

I just think if there's a clear cut favorite to be touting right now Rinne would be it for me.