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Choose your LEAST favorite

Enter Sandman
1 (3.4%)
Sad But True
0 (0%)
The Unforgiven
0 (0%)
Wherever I May Roam
0 (0%)
Through the Never
6 (20.7%)
Nothing Else Matters
2 (6.9%)
Of Wolf and Man
8 (27.6%)
The God That Failed
9 (31%)
My Friend of Misery
3 (10.3%)

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Voting closed: June 17, 2016, 02:48:36 PM

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Metallica Survivor - The Black Album: Round 4
« on: June 16, 2016, 02:48:36 PM »
Results from round 3.

Holier Than Thou: 16 (51.6%)
Wherever I May Roam: 1 (3.2%)
Through the Never: 1 (3.2%)
Nothing Else Matters: 1 (3.2%)
Of Wolf and Man: 4 (12.9%)
The God That Failed: 7 (22.6%)
My Friend of Misery: 1 (3.2%)

Holier Than Thou is out! Moving on to round 4.

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Re: Metallica Survivor - The Black Album: Round 4
« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2016, 03:00:20 PM »
Once again, Through the Nevah.
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Re: Metallica Survivor - The Black Album: Round 4
« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2016, 03:02:55 PM »
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Re: Metallica Survivor - The Black Album: Round 4
« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2016, 03:16:58 PM »
The poll that failed
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« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2016, 05:22:50 PM »
The God That Failed
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Re: Metallica Survivor - The Black Album: Round 4
« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2016, 06:01:58 PM »
The poll that failed

Tell me about it.

Don't Tread On Me is one of the best songs here, yet was gone in round 2, and now two great songs are tied for most votes to go here, while mediocre sludge like Through the Never keeps surviving.  Baffling, to say the least.

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Re: Metallica Survivor - The Black Album: Round 4
« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2016, 06:38:21 PM »
The poll that failed

Tell me about it.

Don't Tread On Me is one of the best songs here, yet was gone in round 2, and now two great songs are tied for most votes to go here, while mediocre sludge like Through the Never keeps surviving.  Baffling, to say the least.
Pretty much this, get Through The Never out of here, I can't take that song seriously
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Re: Metallica Survivor - The Black Album: Round 4
« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2016, 07:16:53 PM »
The poll that failed

Tell me about it.

Don't Tread On Me is one of the best songs here, yet was gone in round 2, and now two great songs are tied for most votes to go here, while mediocre sludge like Through the Never keeps surviving.  Baffling, to say the least.

Don't Tread On Me and Through the Never are both in my top 6 on this album :lol DTOM is definitely better, though.

Sorry, but Of Wolf and Man.

I'm curious to see exactly how sacred the Enter Sandman cow will end up being. I'd rate it somewhere around the middle of the album.
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« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2016, 01:03:41 AM »
I won't have Enter Sandman winning, if it was up to me... I'm not sure if I would have it second or third...
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« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2016, 03:18:29 AM »
My Friend of Misery

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« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2016, 07:03:08 AM »
TTN

Gheez guys, The God That Failed might be top 2 or 3 on this album for me...Love that song.

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Re: Metallica Survivor - The Black Album: Round 4
« Reply #11 on: June 17, 2016, 09:21:00 AM »
I'm curious to see exactly how sacred the Enter Sandman cow will end up being. I'd rate it somewhere around the middle of the album.
Yeah, I would be surprised if it wasn't somewhere in the middle.  I doubt it will be a top 3.  Good song though.  But it is an album full of good songs.  It is interesting to see how differently people view the different songs on here in terms of their own rankings. 

I would probably put Unforgiven and Wherever I May Roam and as my top 2.  The probably Through the Never and Enter Sandman in the next tier, followed by Sad But True, Of Wolf and Man, and Don't Tread On Me, followed by the rest.  But pretty hard to knock much on this album.
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Re: Metallica Survivor - The Black Album: Round 4
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« Reply #13 on: June 17, 2016, 09:45:25 AM »
I'm curious to see exactly how sacred the Enter Sandman cow will end up being. I'd rate it somewhere around the middle of the album.
Yeah, I would be surprised if it wasn't somewhere in the middle.  I doubt it will be a top 3.  Good song though.  But it is an album full of good songs.  It is interesting to see how differently people view the different songs on here in terms of their own rankings. 

I would probably put Unforgiven and Wherever I May Roam and as my top 2.  The probably Through the Never and Enter Sandman in the next tier, followed by Sad But True, Of Wolf and Man, and Don't Tread On Me, followed by the rest.  But pretty hard to knock much on this album.

Agreed. As I said way back in the first thread, I'd find it hard to disagree too strongly with almost any ranking of this album.

For example, I don't rate Wherever I May Roam anywhere near the top of the album. But I can totally see why someone else would.

I agree with you on Unforgiven at the top spot. I'd put Nothing Else Matters up there too, along with My Friend of Misery, Don't Tread On Me and The God That Failed.
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Re: Metallica Survivor - The Black Album: Round 4
« Reply #14 on: June 17, 2016, 09:56:33 AM »
Never was too crazy about Nothing Else Matters.  Not sure if it is just because it got overplayed and saturated radio at the time or what, but I just don't care for it anymore.  Not a bad song by any means, but it just had a short shelf life for me.
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« Reply #15 on: June 17, 2016, 09:57:17 AM »
Overplayed as it is, I'd still call Enter sandman the best song on the album.  :metal

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« Reply #16 on: June 17, 2016, 09:58:27 AM »
Never was too crazy about Nothing Else Matters.  Not sure if it is just because it got overplayed and saturated radio at the time or what, but I just don't care for it anymore.  Not a bad song by any means, but it just had a short shelf life for me.

There are a couple songs on this album that got overplayed for me, so I ignored them for a long time. NEM, ES, SBT... It wasn't until a couple years ago these songs randomly just hit me and I realized how good they really were.

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« Reply #17 on: June 17, 2016, 10:12:39 AM »
Never was too crazy about Nothing Else Matters.  Not sure if it is just because it got overplayed and saturated radio at the time or what, but I just don't care for it anymore.  Not a bad song by any means, but it just had a short shelf life for me.

See, I wasn't alive in 1991, so I think I have the potentially beneficial experience of coming to this album basically the same way I come to any other album. I mean, yeah, I hear Enter Sandman or Nothing Else Matters out in the world from time to time, but it's like once a year, not once a day.

I think both of them hold up as good songs regardless of their status as two of the most recognizable songs in rock. But for me Nothing Else Matters stands out as a great song, maybe the best of its type (metal power ballad), while Enter Sandman is a very good song but doesn't significantly exceed songs of a similar style like Don't Tread On Me or Sad But True. It may also help that I tend to like metal ballads.
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« Reply #18 on: June 17, 2016, 10:42:14 AM »
Never was too crazy about Nothing Else Matters.  Not sure if it is just because it got overplayed and saturated radio at the time or what, but I just don't care for it anymore.  Not a bad song by any means, but it just had a short shelf life for me.

See, I wasn't alive in 1991, so I think I have the potentially beneficial experience of coming to this album basically the same way I come to any other album. I mean, yeah, I hear Enter Sandman or Nothing Else Matters out in the world from time to time, but it's like once a year, not once a day.

I think both of them hold up as good songs regardless of their status as two of the most recognizable songs in rock. But for me Nothing Else Matters stands out as a great song, maybe the best of its type (metal power ballad), while Enter Sandman is a very good song but doesn't significantly exceed songs of a similar style like Don't Tread On Me or Sad But True. It may also help that I tend to like metal ballads.
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« Reply #19 on: June 17, 2016, 11:28:09 AM »
While I can't relate to a lot of that, I completely understand the last part. I'm a fan of some artists that are very mainstream, and it's hard not to see their really popular songs differently than some of the deep cuts. I can only imagine being a Metallica fan in the 90s and trying to figure out how to view Enter Sandman when the thing is playing all the time.
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« Reply #20 on: June 17, 2016, 11:54:14 AM »
Never was too crazy about Nothing Else Matters.  Not sure if it is just because it got overplayed and saturated radio at the time or what, but I just don't care for it anymore.  Not a bad song by any means, but it just had a short shelf life for me.

Basically my exact point of view on the song.

Absolutely great, but I've heard it enough times, I wasn't even bothered that they didn't play it at the only Metallica concert I've seen.
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Re: Metallica Survivor - The Black Album: Round 4
« Reply #21 on: June 17, 2016, 01:26:12 PM »
My favorite is Whenever I May Roam and it will probably never change.

I guess my top 5 would be:

1. Wherever I May Roam
2. Unforgiven
3. Don't Tread On Me
4. Enter Sandman
5. Sad But True
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