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2016 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
« on: April 09, 2016, 03:12:43 PM »
So I guess this happened?  It has become so irrelevant to me that I just don't care.  Guess there is yet another stupid controversy.  But is it really a controversy if people don't care?

The inductees:
Deep Purple
Steve Miller
Chicago
N.W.A.
Cheap Trick

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« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2016, 03:26:17 PM »
NWA>Yes, King Crimson, ELP and so many more.

I respect AL for mocking the thing when Rush was inducted.
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Re: 2016 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2016, 03:32:45 PM »
Cheap Trick? Are they really at the C level bands at this point in time?

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Re: 2016 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2016, 03:33:41 PM »
N.W.A. in a rock and roll hall of fame... :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

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« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2016, 03:40:20 PM »
I'm not sure if this is correct, but I think these were the nominees
Chicago
Yes
The Cars
Deep Purple
Steve Miller
Janet Jackson
Cheap Trick
The Spinners
Chaka Khan
Chic
The J.B.'s
N.W.A
Nine Inch Nails
The Smiths
Los Lobos

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Re: 2016 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2016, 04:04:04 PM »
N.W.A. in a rock and roll hall of fame... :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

I don't even consider rap to be MUSIC, let alone ROCK!!
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« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2016, 04:06:34 PM »
I'm not sure if this is correct, but I think these were the nominees
Chicago
Yes
The Cars
Deep Purple
Steve Miller
Janet Jackson
Cheap Trick
The Spinners
Chaka Khan
Chic
The J.B.'s
N.W.A
Nine Inch Nails
The Smiths
Los Lobos

It's BULLSHIT that YES didn't get in!

Other than that the only bands on that list that I think deserve it are Chicago and Deep Purple.
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« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2016, 04:30:56 PM »
But how many here even knew this event happened already?  I didn't.  I only know because Gene Simmons said he is cheering on the death of rap and Ice Cube of NWA responded in his RnRHoF interview so it pops up on rock news sites.

My problem with the RnRHoF has less to do with hip-hop inclusion and more about the fact that I just never cared about it.  Just like I never cared about the Grammys or Billboard or MTV awards. 

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« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2016, 05:14:31 PM »
N.W.A. in a rock and roll hall of fame... :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

Yeah. Nothing wrong with NWA or hip hop but what they're doing in a Rock hall of fame?
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Re: 2016 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2016, 07:46:34 PM »
N.W.A. in a rock and roll hall of fame... :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

I don't even consider rap to be MUSIC, let alone ROCK!!

Rap is totally music, but it isn't rock. They should just call it the popular music hall of fame and be done with it, no more controversy.
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« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2016, 08:28:56 PM »
Lars actually gave a really good speech inducting Deep Purple.  But yeah.........the whole thing is a bit of a joke.
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« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2016, 08:35:42 PM »
I mean, if I went to Cleveland would I go? Absolutely. But the whole induction process is tainted now.
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« Reply #12 on: April 09, 2016, 08:58:09 PM »
But how many here even knew this event happened already?  I didn't.  I only know because Gene Simmons said he is cheering on the death of rap and Ice Cube of NWA responded in his RnRHoF interview so it pops up on rock news sites.

I only know because I saw something pop up on the Metallica FB page about the induction speech. If not for that, I would have had no clue, even from major rock sources. I don't think Blackmore even showed up, so I don't care.

Cheap Trick? Are they really at the C level bands at this point in time?

Yeah. That happens when you skip a bunch of A and B, too.
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Re: 2016 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
« Reply #13 on: April 09, 2016, 09:04:20 PM »
Don't call Cheap Trick a C list band around Chicago.
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« Reply #14 on: April 09, 2016, 09:47:41 PM »
It's not like Cheap Trick is a one hit wonder.   They had at least a dozen really big hits spanning over 3 decades.  I'd hardly call that C-list.
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« Reply #15 on: April 09, 2016, 10:07:53 PM »
Ultimately, making the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is like getting a Grammy nomination: just about any serious artist with a clue knows it means squat in the grand scheme of things, but you have to talk it up a bit like it matters since that kind of recognition is never a bad thing.

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Re: 2016 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
« Reply #16 on: April 09, 2016, 11:47:38 PM »
N.W.A. in a rock and roll hall of fame... :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

I don't even consider rap to be MUSIC, let alone ROCK!!

Rap is totally music, but it isn't rock. They should just call it the popular music hall of fame and be done with it, no more controversy.

Maybe what I said was a little harsh, but I was expressing my frustration over the fact that so many pop and rap acts, as well as rock bands that just aren't that GOOD get honored by organizations like the RaRHoF, while artists who contributed something to the history of modern music since at least the '60s & '70s continually get passed over and ignored. If I had it MY way, DT would have been inducted last year, since I do believe the 25th anniversary of a band's first album is the main requirement for eligibility.
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« Reply #17 on: April 10, 2016, 01:08:20 AM »
Yeah, i'm not sure why Deep Purple wasn't inducted yet. It should have been a long time ago.

Chicago
Yes
The Cars
Deep Purple
Steve Miller
Janet Jackson
Cheap Trick
The Spinners
Chaka Khan
Chic
The J.B.'s
N.W.A
Nine Inch Nails
The Smiths
Los Lobos

From these, i would induct Yes, Deep Purple, The Smiths and Nine Inch Nails, they more than deserve it. Last spot could be Chicago, Cars or Steve Miller.
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« Reply #18 on: April 10, 2016, 01:25:01 AM »
Great that DP finally got in, but not cool that Blackmore wasn't allowed to be their.

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« Reply #19 on: April 10, 2016, 01:37:21 AM »
Now, if you could, what artists/bands would you guys induct?

I would pick one from each decade (based on the decade they formed), only exception being the 70s:

60s - King Crimson
70s - The Cure
70s - Iron Maiden
80s - The Smiths
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« Reply #20 on: April 10, 2016, 01:43:11 AM »
They should change the name of the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame to Music Hall of Fame, to reflect the new genres coming in. Bearing in mind that hip-hop only became popular in the late 70s/early 80s, and the 25-year wait for eligibility, it stands to reason that hip-hop artists should be honoured in this way now that we're approaching 40 years since the genre's development. Regardless of whether you personally like it or not, you can't deny that many of these artists had a huge impact on music history.

A lot of this complaining is probably just sour grapes because their favourite band isn't inducted yet.

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« Reply #21 on: April 10, 2016, 04:32:52 AM »
Calvin, do you Internet at all?  The nominations were all over the Internet and news.   
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« Reply #22 on: April 10, 2016, 05:01:19 AM »
Calvin, do you Internet at all?  The nominations were all over the Internet and news.

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So I guess this happened?  It has become so irrelevant to me that I just don't care.
I have smartphone notifications for top headlines, so either this never showed up or I "just don't care" and quickly deleted the notification headline.  Music awards are about on the level of National Enquirer headlines for me.  And the RaRHoF did not disappoint as it produced a laughable Gene Simmons - NWA feud, a Steve Miller diatribe and I think there was music involved, but I wouldn't be able to tell on that last point.

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« Reply #23 on: April 10, 2016, 05:32:45 AM »
If you don't care why make a thread? :lol

Well all have a beef about who makes it and who doesn't.  That hack owner from Rolling Stone who runs this can suck it for all I care.
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« Reply #24 on: April 10, 2016, 06:06:15 AM »
If you don't care why make a thread? :lol
Because when something I consider a joke has a joke within a joke, it's funny.

This is like reporting on the Jethro Tull win for Best Metal at the Grammys.  I don't really care about the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit issue either, but if Betty White was on the cover ....

It's like watching the race for the USA President.  It's great reality TV filled with laughs (until they told me what the winner's prize was).  Thankfully, NWA's induction will not affect my music life in the slightest.

Or I could just say I found the "New Topic" button.  Would you like me to tell you where it is?    :laugh:

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« Reply #25 on: April 10, 2016, 06:16:27 AM »
This is a joke that is at least 15 years old though?  Lol.  Would doesn't know this?  Every year it's the same thing.  We say, "They made it yet this band didn't "?
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« Reply #27 on: April 10, 2016, 06:30:17 AM »
 :lol

It's just seemed like you just figured it out and it made me laugh a littl .
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« Reply #28 on: April 10, 2016, 06:58:16 AM »
Gotta admire them for putting the hall of fame in Ohio (Cleveland Rocks).  Somebody said if they were near, they'd go.

Whereas I wouldn't be asking myself how I ended up in the RaRHoF, but rather how I ended up in Cleveland, Ohio.  I asked my smartphone for places to visit in Cleveland, Ohio and it only came up with one site:
Cleveland Hopkins International Airport

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« Reply #29 on: April 10, 2016, 07:08:13 AM »
I think we all know where it is and question why. Btw, I'm going to Columbus,  OH tomorrow for a conference. It's a little more than an hour away from Cleveland 
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« Reply #30 on: April 10, 2016, 07:39:04 AM »
Chicago should have been in years ago.  How many #1 albums in the 70s?

nwa.....geesh, why not induct Benny Goodman, Gene Krupa, etc...?  They were more influential, and have more in common with rock n roll.  Cheap Trick?!?!?  Will they need a bucket for Nielsen at the podium?

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« Reply #31 on: April 10, 2016, 10:35:38 AM »
Don't call Cheap Trick a C list band around Chicago.

FTFY. C-list, my ass.

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« Reply #32 on: April 10, 2016, 01:37:56 PM »
I did go to the Rock Hall in Cleveland last Summer.

Kevin Gilbert's name is in there along with a clip of The Monkees (see my YouTube Channel or blog).

Blackmore decided not to go. There's a good video of him giving his reasons
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« Reply #33 on: April 10, 2016, 03:09:02 PM »
Now, if you could, what artists/bands would you guys induct?

I would pick one from each decade (based on the decade they formed), only exception being the 70s:

60s - King Crimson
70s - The Cure
70s - Iron Maiden
80s - The Smiths
90s - Pearl Jam

Why did you pick Iron Maiden for the 1970s? There's some debate about weather or not their first album was released in 1979 or 1980, but other than that their first few several, best-known, and probably most popular albums are very much a product of the '80s.
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« Reply #34 on: April 10, 2016, 06:33:28 PM »
I love Cheap Trick. One of the most underrated rock bands of all time. Was happy to see them get in.
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