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Re: The Official Yes Thread
« Reply #2275 on: March 20, 2019, 06:49:51 AM »
i'm going to see him in a small theater in about two weeks.  Can't wait, though won't lie: I'm alternating between "skeptical" and "curious".   If I get 90 minutes of Awaken, and some of stuff like Toltec (which I like) I'll be happy.  If I get 90 minutes of Arriving UFO and Vangelis, maybe not so much. 

Oh, and there's this:https://ultimateclassicrock.com/jon-anderson-yes-reunion/

AWR is on "hiatus", and there was disagreement over an album. 

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Re: The Official Yes Thread
« Reply #2276 on: March 20, 2019, 07:01:00 AM »
Quote from: Stadler on March 20, 2019, 06:49:51 AM

Oh, and there's this:https://ultimateclassicrock.com/jon-anderson-yes-reunion/

AWR is on "hiatus", and there was disagreement over an album.

I am shocked.  Just shocked!
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Re: The Official Yes Thread
« Reply #2277 on: March 20, 2019, 09:18:30 AM »
If he found it suffocating touring with Rabin and Wakeman, what on Earth makes the guy think he can do 18 months with Steve Howe?

@Kev--What makes you say White can physically do it anymore? It's been a couple of years since I last saw Yes (no Squire-no Yes), but he seemed just fine.
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Re: The Official Yes Thread
« Reply #2278 on: March 20, 2019, 09:31:51 AM »
Quote from: El Barto on March 20, 2019, 09:18:30 AM


@Kev--What makes you say White can physically do it anymore? It's been a couple of years since I last saw Yes (no Squire-no Yes), but he seemed just fine.

He missed a tour a few years ago and then they had a second drummer the last few tours.  That is not a knock, as the guy will be 70 this year, and decades of pounding away on a drum with two sticks as hard as you can takes its toll.
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Re: The Official Yes Thread
« Reply #2279 on: March 20, 2019, 09:45:58 AM »
I heard similar things about White, he can still play the drums, but not for two hours straight.
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Re: The Official Yes Thread
« Reply #2280 on: March 20, 2019, 10:06:12 AM »
Well, he can still hit some drums, but in my personal opinion, he can't play well anymore. He put together all his strengths for the RnRHoF performance (and he had one hell of a supporter with Geddy Lee), but listening to him play is becoming harder and harder. He drags, the is imprecise, no energy. Exactly the opposite of what made him special in the 1970s (Siberian Khatru on Yessongs holy shit). It hurts me to say that.
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Re: The Official Yes Thread
« Reply #2281 on: March 20, 2019, 10:16:05 AM »
Maybe it's time to force Bruford out of retirement? :P
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It sounds like, "ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk." Instead of the more pleasing kick drum sound of, "gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk."

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Re: The Official Yes Thread
« Reply #2282 on: March 20, 2019, 10:18:38 AM »
Didn't know that was going on. Last I heard was from a family member who saw him shortly after Squire's death and she said he seemed miserable (and she knows him). Her take was that he just didn't want to be there without Squire. It'd be a really sad thing if he were having to do this for financial considerations.
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Re: The Official Yes Thread
« Reply #2283 on: March 20, 2019, 10:51:22 AM »
Quote from: Fritzinger on March 20, 2019, 10:06:12 AM
Well, he can still hit some drums, but in my personal opinion, he can't play well anymore. He put together all his strengths for the RnRHoF performance (and he had one hell of a supporter with Geddy Lee), but listening to him play is becoming harder and harder. He drags, the is imprecise, no energy. Exactly the opposite of what made him special in the 1970s (Siberian Khatru on Yessongs holy shit). It hurts me to say that.

I'm with you.   The last couple tours have been dinged for the band slowing tempos down, sometimes radically, and my understanding is that had a fair amount to do with White.   New drummer (is it Jay Schellen?) and that's not as big a problem as it was.

Bart, I'm with you; no Squire, no Yes.   I've been sort of on a nostalgia trip lately with Yes - yesterday I watched a documentary about the Fragile-era Yes - and if a vote was taken right now, he'd be my answer for greatest rock bassist, even over heavy-weights like Entwhistle and Lee.
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« Reply #2284 on: March 20, 2019, 01:27:15 PM »
He might get my vote as well (it would be him or Geddy, depending on my mood).

Here is something to ponder: if Howe decides to bring Anderson back in to his version of Yes, what happens to Downes?  From everything I have ever read, Anderson refuses to sing Drama material (and I suspect that would also apply to anything they have done without him in the last decade), which means if Downes stays in the band, he basically does it knowing that any Yes material he originally played on is now off-limits.
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Re: The Official Yes Thread
« Reply #2285 on: March 20, 2019, 01:51:30 PM »
Alan White SLAYED it on the TALK tour in 1994. One of the best drum performances I've ever seen! I've seen different incarnations of Yes live several times since then, but none of them even come close to the TALK tour.
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Re: The Official Yes Thread
« Reply #2286 on: March 20, 2019, 02:49:50 PM »
Quote from: Architeuthis on March 20, 2019, 01:51:30 PM
Alan White SLAYED it on the TALK tour in 1994. One of the best drum performances I've ever seen! I've seen different incarnations of Yes live several times since then, but none of them even come close to the TALK tour.

I don't want to say Alan is a bad drummer, not at all!!! While his playing is not as detailed and perfect as Bill's, he had a LOT of energy, especially on stage. His performances were on FIRE. I have to repeat: listen to Siberian Kathru on Yessongs, toward the end, where Howe plays an awesome guitar solo. The band is almost exploding. That is why it's a pity for me to say that Alan can't do it anymore. People like Carl Palmer or Franz Di Cioccio show how it can work too in that age.

Quote from: KevShmev on March 20, 2019, 01:27:15 PM
He might get my vote as well (it would be him or Geddy, depending on my mood).

Here is something to ponder: if Howe decides to bring Anderson back in to his version of Yes, what happens to Downes?  From everything I have ever read, Anderson refuses to sing Drama material (and I suspect that would also apply to anything they have done without him in the last decade), which means if Downes stays in the band, he basically does it knowing that any Yes material he originally played on is now off-limits.

Not only that. The next (and in my opinion even more obvious) question would be what the hell happens with Jon Davison? I'm not a fan of the guy at all, but it would be mean to just kick him out. Wouldn't be the first time in that band though.
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Re: The Official Yes Thread
« Reply #2287 on: March 20, 2019, 06:26:41 PM »
Honestly, if you are an unknown replacing a longtime and iconic (still-living) singer in a popular band, you should probably just enjoy the ride, while realizing that it will not last forever, since it seems like most of the time the iconic singer will be brought back.
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Re: The Official Yes Thread
« Reply #2288 on: March 21, 2019, 10:29:54 PM »
Quote from: Stadler on March 20, 2019, 06:49:51 AM
i'm going to see him in a small theater in about two weeks.  Can't wait, though won't lie: I'm alternating between "skeptical" and "curious".   If I get 90 minutes of Awaken, and some of stuff like Toltec (which I like) I'll be happy.  If I get 90 minutes of Arriving UFO and Vangelis, maybe not so much. 

Oh, and there's this:https://ultimateclassicrock.com/jon-anderson-yes-reunion/

AWR is on "hiatus", and there was disagreement over an album.

Came here to post the Good News/ Bad News but you beat me to it.

Was really hoping for an AWR album
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Re: The Official Yes Thread
« Reply #2289 on: March 22, 2019, 01:26:48 AM »
Quote from: KevShmev on March 11, 2019, 07:34:20 AM
If someone asked me what rock album features the most bad ass bass playing, the answer would be easy and instant:

Fragile

Chris Squire... :hefdaddy :hefdaddy

I may have to correct myself.
I just listened to Drama.
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Re: The Official Yes Thread
« Reply #2290 on: March 22, 2019, 12:00:12 PM »
Squire is on fire on Drama.  He was always a madman on the bass anyway, but Drama was a different vibe.  It's like he was re-energized, the whole band was different.  Of course that's true of Yes in general.  By constantly swapping out the guitarist, keyboards, drummer, even lead singer, every album has its unique vibe, yet somehow it all still sounds like Yes, and nothing else does.
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« Reply #2291 on: March 22, 2019, 08:49:13 PM »
Quote from: Orbert on March 22, 2019, 12:00:12 PM
Squire is on fire on Drama.  He was always a madman on the bass anyway, but Drama was a different vibe.  It's like he was re-energized, the whole band was different.  Of course that's true of Yes in general.  By constantly swapping out the guitarist, keyboards, drummer, even lead singer, every album has its unique vibe, yet somehow it all still sounds like Yes, and nothing else does.

Tempus Effing Fugit! I love that album to bits.  Still haven't really heard or seen much of that tour. 

Rumor has it Horn didn't go over all that well live, but he sounds pretty amazing on the album to me.
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« Reply #2292 on: March 22, 2019, 11:12:41 PM »
I love the Drama album.  The tour was a disaster.  Trevor Horn resisted joining Yes because he knew (and anyone with any brains could/should have predicted) that he'd have to go out and "be" Jon Anderson every night, sing the songs from the catalog as well as the Drama songs, and that audiences would react badly.  He was right.  Sales were poor, shows were cancelled.  The few bootlegs I've heard, the Drama stuff sounds fine, but the back catalog is very rough.
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« Reply #2293 on: March 23, 2019, 03:51:59 AM »
Drama is one of my favorite Yes albums. It proves that the band isn't about Jon Anderson, as great as he is.
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« Reply #2294 on: March 25, 2019, 01:15:29 AM »
I love Drama, one of my very favourite Yes albums too. Tempus Fugit and Machine Messiah are awesome songs.
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« Reply #2295 on: March 25, 2019, 02:44:51 AM »
Yeah I love the combination of the "rainy", melancholic pop with the virtuose abilities of Yes.
Also, in my opinion, it shows how important Chris Squire's backing vocals were for the sound of the band.
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« Reply #2296 on: March 25, 2019, 07:18:47 AM »
That really is a shame about the ARW YES falling through. They were working on a new album that I was really looking forward to and the single sounded really cool!  Trevor Rabin always wanted to do an album with Wakeman and Anderson in the line-up, plus Rabin would be engineering the album. We all know how good of a job he did with TALK back in 1994. After all his experience doing movie scores since then, I bet he would have produced a mighty fine album with Yes.
 I wonder who decided to drop the ball on this one?  GOOD GRIEF!!!   :facepalm:
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« Reply #2297 on: March 25, 2019, 07:31:40 AM »
Quote from: Architeuthis on March 25, 2019, 07:18:47 AM
That really is a shame about the ARW YES falling through. They were working on a new album that I was really looking forward to and the single sounded really cool!  Trevor Rabin always wanted to do an album with Wakeman and Anderson in the line-up, plus Rabin would be engineering the album. We all know how good of a job he did with TALK back in 1994. After all his experience doing movie scores since then, I bet he would have produced a mighty fine album with Yes.
 I wonder who decided to drop the ball on this one?  GOOD GRIEF!!!   :facepalm:

My money is on Wakeman.  The only thing he does more than join Yes is leave Yes.
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« Reply #2298 on: March 25, 2019, 08:11:25 AM »
If that's the case Rabin could easily do the piano/keyboard parts in the studio, but the label wouldn't release it because there would be no subsequent tour to follow. Also the label wouldn't release an album for a band that doesn't exist anymore.
It just urks me that they couldn't hold it together long enough to at least get one album completed. This particular line-up really calls for it!  It would have been the only GOOD Yes album in years.  :(
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« Reply #2299 on: March 27, 2019, 08:04:35 PM »
Isn't White recovering from back surgery?
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« Reply #2300 on: March 28, 2019, 12:01:38 AM »
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« Reply #2301 on: March 28, 2019, 01:42:43 AM »
Damn, this song & video are so goofy that it's actually kind of cute. :lol
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« Reply #2302 on: March 28, 2019, 02:40:06 AM »
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Re: The Official Yes Thread
« Reply #2303 on: March 28, 2019, 07:29:49 AM »
So I have a ticket to see Anderson next week.   I think I paid $90 for the ticket (but I'm front row).   For another... $122 I get to meet the guy and get a picture with him. 

Any thoughts?   Anyone ever meet him?
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« Reply #2304 on: March 28, 2019, 10:49:00 AM »
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Any thoughts?   Anyone ever meet him?
I met him at one of his solo shows in Seattle around 10 years ago. He was very down to earth and nice. He seemed to be just as grateful to meet my wife and I as we were to meet him. He actually had a free meet and greet after the show.  So yeah, it was a very positive experience. :tup
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« Reply #2305 on: March 28, 2019, 10:50:21 AM »
I'm seeing John tomorrow.  Got free tickets! 

SCORE!
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« Reply #2306 on: March 28, 2019, 10:55:59 AM »
Quote from: kingshmegland on March 28, 2019, 10:50:21 AM
I'm seeing John tomorrow.  Got free tickets! 

SCORE!

Post a review, please.  That will help me decide.   I saw a setlist (though I don't know if it is indicative of what we'll see) and it's got one of the three "bucket list" songs I have for Jon.   
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« Reply #2307 on: March 28, 2019, 10:58:12 AM »
I'll PM you so as not to spoil for all.
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« Reply #2308 on: April 02, 2019, 09:16:06 AM »
Yes, Asia, and Carl Palmer Tour

http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/yes-announces-the-royal-affair-tour-with-asia-and-carl-palmers-elp-legacy/

Bumblefoot will play with Asia.
Steve Howe will play with Asia and Yes
Jun. 12 - Bethlehem, PA - Bethlehem Event Center
Jun. 14 - Farmingdale, NY - Long Island Community Hospital Amphitheater
Jun. 15 - Atlantic City, NJ - Hard Rock Live at Etess Arena
Jun. 16 - Holmdel, NJ - PNC Bank Arts Center
Jun. 20 - Westchester, NY - Westchester County Center
Jun. 21 - Pittsburgh, PA - Stage AE
Jun. 22 - Baltimore, MD - MECU Pavillion
Jun. 24 - Toronto, ON - Budweiser Stage
Jun. 25 - Lewiston, NY - Artpark Amphitheater
Jun. 27 - Bethel, NY - Bethel Woods Center for the Arts
Jun. 29 - Gilford, NH - Bank of NH Pavilion
Jun. 30 - Providence, RI - Bold Point Park
Jul. 03 - Rochester Hills, MI - Meadow Brook Amphitheatre
Jul. 05 - Columbus, OH - Express Live
Jul. 06 - Aurora, IL - RiverEdge Park
Jul. 08 - Nashville, TN - Grand Ole Opry House
Jul. 10 - Cary, NC - Koka Booth Amphitheatre at Regency Park
Jul. 12 - Clearwater, FL - Ruth Eckerd Hall
Jul. 13 - Hollywood, FL - Seminole Hard Rock Hotel & Casino
Jul. 18 - St Augustine, FL - St. Augustine Amphitheatre
Jul. 20 - Irving, TX - Toyota Music Factory
Jul. 21 - Rogers, AR - Walmart AMP
Jul. 24 - Phoenix, AZ - Comerica Theatre
Jul. 26 - Las Vegas, NV - The Joint (Hard Rock Hotel & Casino)
Jul. 27 - Irvine, CA - FivePoints Amphitheatre
Jul. 28 - Saratoga, CA - The Mountain Winery
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« Reply #2309 on: April 02, 2019, 10:41:11 AM »
Billy Sherwood doing double duty as well?
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