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Re: The Official Yes Thread
« Reply #1365 on: June 13, 2013, 08:20:46 AM »
ABWH was released on vinyl back in the days and it was one of the last records I bought before I switched over to cd.
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« Reply #1366 on: June 13, 2013, 09:15:29 AM »
Kinda considering going to Yestival, but probably won't. I mean, Yes without Anderson or Wakeman, and ELP without E or L. The Genesis tribute don't do much to sweeten the deal really.

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« Reply #1367 on: June 13, 2013, 11:09:30 AM »
If you like Yes, you should not write them off just because Anderson and Wakeman are no longer with them.  Jon Anderson is pretty much limited to shorter gigs and mini-tours because of his health.  Jon Davison (the current lead singer) by all reports sounds great, and YouTube videos back that up.  He also is a deeply spiritual person, as is Jon Anderson, and that comes through in his delivery as well.

Rick Wakeman became a parody of himself back in the 90's.  He was clearly bored with playing the same songs every night, and did all kinds of things to amuse himself on stage.  Adding little flourishes pretty much everywhere, regardless of whether or not they actually add anything.  Coming up with weird, thin patches instead of the classic sounds he used to use, just because it was different, and after hundreds of gigs, anything different sounds better (to him) than the same thing over and over.  Once again, check out YouTube of later Yes performances with Wakeman.  Geoff Downes is no slouch, and because he knows he will be heavily critiqued on the Wakeman material, he is reproducing Wakeman's original parts as closely as possible.

Basically, Davison sounds better than Anderson and Downes sounds better than Wakeman these days.  This is the best Yes has sounded in many years.  Don't assume that it will be an inferior show just because certain guys aren't in the lineup; it's still the music that matters.

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« Reply #1368 on: June 13, 2013, 11:17:22 AM »
I would definitely go to Yestival if I was able to since Yes was fantastic when I saw them in April. Davison was killer and spot on.

And the other bands are good too. I wouldn't be too excited about the Genesis tribute band, but Carl Palmer's band sounds really interesting. He felt that that no keyboardist could play ELP's music as good as Emerson, so he has a guitarist instead to offer a different interpretation of the music. So it's not like Palmer and a couple of clones. And then there's Renaissance with Annie Haslam. Her voice is still fantastic and the rest of the band plays the original material very well. Scale the Summit is kind of out of place in the line-up but I'm sure they'll play a good set.

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« Reply #1369 on: June 13, 2013, 08:41:34 PM »
Kinda considering going to Yestival, but probably won't. I mean, Yes without Anderson or Wakeman, and ELP without E or L. The Genesis tribute don't do much to sweeten the deal really.

Sad to say, but E and L are pretty much useless now anyway (live). 
After being spoiled by seeing Palmer (and his young guns) multiple times in a club setting, I'd be pretty underwhelmed catching them here.  Though I'm kinda stoked that more people will get to see how amazing Carl Palmer's band really is. If I wasn't spoiled by the man over the last several years, I'd be all over this for him alone.

The rest wouldn't interest me unless the Genesis tribute ignores the Gabriel years -- that is about as likely to happen as a Rush tribute playing anything after Signals.

I'd be in if the lineup was better though.

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« Reply #1370 on: June 23, 2013, 09:10:00 AM »
From Steven Wilson's facebook page:

A press release from Panegyric:

XTC and Yes to join the roster of acclaimed King Crimson reissues via the Panegyric label in 2013.

Panegyric, the label responsible for issuing DGM's acclaimed King Crimson 40th Anniversary Edition sets, has announced that it will be issuing new archive CD/DVD-A & CD/Blu-Ray editions by XTC starting with Nonsuch and Yes with Close To The Edge. Both albums will feature additional tracks and new stereo/surround sound mixes by Steven Wilson.


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« Reply #1371 on: June 23, 2013, 10:35:49 AM »
CTTE seems like the logical first choice by SW to remix a Yes album. I would LOVE to have him remix Relayer, and I don't even listen to 5.1 audio! I can just imagine "Gates Of Delirium" sounding amazing in 5.1 surround.

Actually, the whole run of Fragile-Going For The One should just be remixed by SW.

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Re: The Official Yes Thread
« Reply #1372 on: June 23, 2013, 03:40:38 PM »
This sounds delicious!

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« Reply #1373 on: July 21, 2013, 03:51:29 PM »
Ummm......   WOW!!!

Havn't looked too into it yet...and I don't have an SACD player.  (didn't that format die???)   But I would dig one up on Ebay if this box set is as good as it sounds...

Anyone else heard about it??

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« Reply #1374 on: July 21, 2013, 04:03:33 PM »
YIKES!!!  I just clicked on the USA pre-order.   Over 563 bucks?   That's got to be a mistake!
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« Reply #1375 on: July 21, 2013, 04:11:45 PM »
Are they that good???

Should I start listening to this band, too?????

I swear, I will be in the po' house in no time...    :'( :laugh:
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« Reply #1376 on: July 21, 2013, 04:12:09 PM »
Are they that good???

Should I start listening to this band, too?????

I swear, I will be in the po' house in no time...    :'( :laugh:

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« Reply #1377 on: July 21, 2013, 04:21:57 PM »
Are they that good???

Should I start listening to this band, too?????

I swear, I will be in the po' house in no time...    :'( :laugh:

I wouldn't buy this box set at that price...but Yes.  You ABSOLUTELY must check out Yes. 

IMO, The Yes Album is the perfect starter.   Once you hear the trifecta of The Yes Album, Fragile and Close to the Edge (and that's in chronological order) it is my further opinion that you will be hooked.   

I don't know if they ever recaptured the perfection of those three albums (though Going for the One comes very close) there is a lot of amazing material in the remainder of their albums.    A few duds...but not many.

Rating "the classic period" only, I would rank them...

The untouchables:

The Yes Album
Fragile
Close to the Edge
Going for the One

The really good:

Tales from Topographic Oceans
Relayer
Drama


Meh:

Tormato


After that, it gets *REALLY* spotty.   Some really good albums, some really bad albums....and the ones with Trevor Rabin on guitar (90125, Big Generator and Talk) sound like a completely different band.  (and indeed, it was *intended* to be a completely different band...and Trevor was pretty much strong-armed into calling it Yes after Jon Anderson was called in)   

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« Reply #1378 on: July 21, 2013, 04:24:26 PM »
Man, you guys are so smart (shaking my head).  I don't think I know THAT much about ANYthing!   :lol     :hefdaddy

It's amazing.  Thanks for the reccos!


EDIT:  Good thing all these classic discs are only $4.99 at Amazon.  I can continue living indoors.  :)
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« Reply #1379 on: July 21, 2013, 05:34:34 PM »
Close To The Edge will change your life. :)
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« Reply #1380 on: July 26, 2013, 12:26:08 PM »
I just recently discovered Yes, and I will say that my mind is blown  :)

I'm listening to Fragile, and I love the mix of rock/prog/funk/classical.

Suggestions on the next album I should check out?

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« Reply #1381 on: July 26, 2013, 12:27:31 PM »
The Yes Album and Close To The Edge :)
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« Reply #1382 on: July 26, 2013, 12:31:02 PM »
The Yes Album and Close To The Edge :)

What he said, then go for Going For The One and Relayer. Once you've digested those four, go for the behemoth of Tales From Topographic Oceans.

Once you're done with those, go to the first two albums (Yes and Time And A Word) and enjoy their beginnings, then go to their last 2 albums in the pre-Rabin era and spin Tormato and Drama. With that, you'll have covered their first ten albums, and for many, the essential Yes albums. If you really want to follow their story from there on, go forward starting with 90125 and continue chronologically...but that's if you get THAT far. Come back to us then :tup

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« Reply #1383 on: July 26, 2013, 12:39:19 PM »
Avoid Tormato like the plague, but pretty much everything else from the 70s is pretty worthy.  Opinions are all over the map on what the best post-70s albums are, but I'll take 90125 and Talk. 

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« Reply #1384 on: July 26, 2013, 11:56:09 PM »
Close To The Edge will change your life. :)

K, so... I love this first album.  Some kind of everything on it, it's great!

I'm curious.  Why will CTTE "change my life"?  What's amazing about it?
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« Reply #1385 on: July 27, 2013, 04:02:56 AM »
Everything. It's one of the best albums of all time, but hear for yourself.  ;) Also recommended are The Yes album and Relayer. There's more, obviously, but right now these are the ones you need.  ;D

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« Reply #1386 on: July 27, 2013, 05:30:55 AM »
My order was something like this:

Fragile
90125
Relayer
Close To The Edge
Tormato
Drama
The Yes Album
Tales
Going For The One

The only ones I wasn't huge fans of were Tormato and 90125,for obvious reasons.

I still think Changes is an awesome song though.

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« Reply #1387 on: July 28, 2013, 02:05:10 AM »
Close To The Edge will change your life. :)

K, so... I love this first album.  Some kind of everything on it, it's great!

I'm curious.  Why will CTTE "change my life"?  What's amazing about it?
Oops, forgot about this bold statement I made.

I'm not a huge Yes fan, when it comes to classic, authentic, British, prog I'm totally a Genesis guy. That said, if I was to rank everything by Genesis and Yes, Close To The Edge would be the top album, no question. Everything that defines progressive rock is in that album, I think. From the crazy seemingly structureless jamming to the intense epic buildups. We get fantasy lyrics, technical wizardry, side length epics. It's all there. If someone asked me what progressive rock was, I'd give them this album.

I love how the album starts with the most insane passage possible. No lead up, no chance to get comfy, you're immediately hit with a barrage of progressive craziness. But that's what prog is all about, it's not supposed to be comfortable music. It's meant to push boundaries. Then 3 minutes in the first motif appears. One of my favorite Yes melodies, so calming after that breathtaking intro. It's like being brought back to earth. The whole song is just brilliant. Pretty much the foundation of Dream Theater's progressive side too, I wish they would've played it back when they were into doing covers live.

The amazingness is hard for me to put into words. It's just one of those albums that every aspiring progger needs to hear. I don't think there is a more genre defining record than Close To The Edge. And for a genre as eclectic as progressive rock, that's a pretty impressive feat.
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« Reply #1388 on: July 29, 2013, 07:42:51 PM »
Going For The One has always been a bottom 10 Yes album for me, but after seeing this I think I respect it a little more.

I'm sure some of you have seen it before, but I had no idea that this stuff was out there.

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« Reply #1389 on: July 29, 2013, 07:49:26 PM »
Going For The One has always been a bottom 10 Yes album for me, but after seeing this I think I respect it a little more.

I'm sure some of you have seen it before, but I had no idea that this stuff was out there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UO5xH6ikJP4

I think more than one member of Yes has stated that...even more so than CttE...Awaken is the the song that encompasses what Yes is in a single song.

I agree.   I think that song alone is worth the purchase price of the album...and it is their finest achievement.
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« Reply #1390 on: July 29, 2013, 08:37:01 PM »
I've got CttE in my shopping cart.  Maybe I'll buy Awaken as a single.

Can't buy everything... I gots bills to pay!   :P
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« Reply #1391 on: July 29, 2013, 09:30:55 PM »
Going for the One and Close to the Edge constantly fight it out for my favorite Yes album.  On days when Going for the One comes out ahead, it's on the strength of "Awaken" which is my favorite Yessong, period.  "Close to the Edge" (the song) is second.

"Awaken" is indeed their finest achievement.  Jon Anderson has said so directly, but Steve and Chris have both said things to the same effect.

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« Reply #1392 on: July 29, 2013, 10:06:54 PM »
Going for the One and Close to the Edge constantly fight it out for my favorite Yes album.
Those are my two favorites as well. I was disappointed that they didn't play GFTO when I saw them in April as it was a casino show with time limitations.

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« Reply #1393 on: July 29, 2013, 11:17:17 PM »
Wow, that would suck.  Catching the "three album tour" but on a night they only play two.

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« Reply #1394 on: July 29, 2013, 11:49:52 PM »
They did advertise it as a two album show, but that was the only date I was able to attend. So at least I knew ahead of time that I wouldn't see it live. Still, I was extremely excited about seeing it when the tour was announced and I hoped that they would at least play Awaken as an encore. Regardless, it was a great show!

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« Reply #1395 on: August 02, 2013, 08:34:21 PM »
I've been getting into Yes over the past few days, and at the moment Relayer is battling Close to the Edge for my favorite for the Yes albums I've heard so far. Those two are two of the most insanely mind-blowing albums I've ever heard in my life. I get the love for CttE and I'm loving it too, but I think I prefer Relayer. Jon Anderson's voice sounds stronger on that album and I really, really love that chaotic jazz vibe that's on the album.

However, comparing these two albums for me right now is like comparing two of the greatest films of all time. I'm really absolutely astounded at how utterly brilliant these albums are. :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy Probably the best prog albums I've ever heard.
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« Reply #1396 on: August 02, 2013, 08:43:57 PM »
Both those albums are masterpieces. :tup

I really love Moraz's playing on Relayer and I've always wondered what they could have come up with had he made another album with them.

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« Reply #1397 on: August 02, 2013, 10:40:28 PM »
Big Yes fan here. Probably my 2nd favorite band behind DT. Saw them once back in '04 when DT was opening for them. Unfortunately, I wasn't really that into them at the time. They finally clicked for me a couple of years later, and they quickly became one of my favorite bands. Still haven't seen them again. I'd love to see Anderson and Wakeman come back into fold, but I'm not holding my breath. I'd be content to see the current Yes line-up as well. Favorite album is Close to the Edge, easily. As others have said, the quintessential prog rock album. Not sure how I'd rank them after that. I consider TYA-GFTO to be all of comparable quality, though I haven't given TFTO enough spins to really give that one a really good assessment.

I love like Relayer, and "The Gates of Delirium" is one of my favorite Yes songs. Everything leading up to the instrumental "battle" part is perfect, probably my favorite Yes moments. I've never been a big fan of the "Soon" portion of the song though. It feels almost tacked on, and I wish I enjoyed it more.

"Sound Chaser" is an interesting song to say the least. There are some parts where I feel like the band is smacking you with a bit too many notes at a time. Moraz's keyboard solo is awesome though. Probably my second fav Yes keyboard solo, next to Wakeman's incomparable solo in Close to the Edge. Howe's guitar solo is definitely a bit of an acquired taste, but I've come to appreciate it. It's unique that this is a true solo, with all of the other instruments resting.

"To Be Over" is a nice song, but isn't one of my favorites. The softer mood of the song definitely fits, coming after two such jarring songs.  So yeah, nice, pretty song, but nothing really stands out making it amazing. Howe's solo is nice, but a little busy for the mood of the song.

I'd also like to mention that I don't think that Tormato is that bad. I think "Future Times/Rejoice" and "On the Silent Wings of Freedom" are pretty solid songs, "Release, Release" is fun, and "Madrigal" is beautiful. "Arriving UFO", "Circus of Heaven", and "Onward" are admittedly pretty crappy though.
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« Reply #1398 on: August 03, 2013, 01:24:38 AM »
Close To The Edge is simply mind blowing.  :omg:

To me, the lyrics are about an "enlightenment" or "ego death", influenced by the book Siddhartha (like Anderson once confirmed), and perhaps influenced by the use of psychedelics.

"Down at the edge, round by the corner,
Not right away, not right away.
Close to the edge, down by a river,
Not right away, not right away."

You know that you're on the edge of enlightenment, but are cautious of it "not right away"

"Now that it's all over and done,
Now that you find, now that you're whole."

By the end of Part 1, you have gloriously tasted enlightenment, and become one with nature/the universe

"Sudden problems shouldn't take away the startled memory.
All in all, the journey takes you all the way......

......Passing paths that climb halfway into the void.
As we cross from side to side, we hear the total mass retain."

This is one of the most intriguing lyrical passages.  It's talking about how amazing the journey of enlightenment is, but I still cannot figure out the phrase "total mass retain" 

In part three, now that you essentially know everything, are one with nature, and have become enlightened about the world, you explore the big problems in humanity and struggle with them:

"Two million people barely satisfy.
Two hundred women watch one woman cry, too late.
The eyes of honesty can achieve.
How many millions do we deceive each day?"

After the lyrical passage in Part 3, comes the amazing instrumental section and the fantastic keyboard solo, leading up to one of the most marvelous pieces of music, IMO.

"The time between the notes relates the color to the scenes"

YES is famous for lyrics that basically have no meaning, but sound cool. This is one of the most famous ones, but anyone who has used psychedelics and listened to music knows what this means. "Time between the notes" = rhythm, the rhythm of the music makes sense of the color and the extraordinary visuals you see that go along with the music.  This may not actually be what they meant, but is an interesting thought nonetheless.

"Then according to the man who showed his outstretched arm to space,
He turned around and pointed, revealing all the human race.
I shook my head and smiled a whisper, knowing all about the place."

What an amazing few lines.  Pretty self explanatory if you're considering the theme of enlightenment or ego death, but the combination of the musical and rhythmic themes(especially at the end of the passage) that come along with this part make it one of my favorites.

At the end, you hear the main themes of the song "close to the edge..." "I get up, I get down" in a grand finale that makes you feel, well, enlightened!  :hefdaddy

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« Reply #1399 on: August 05, 2013, 03:46:13 PM »
Both those albums are masterpieces. :tup

I really love Moraz's playing on Relayer and I've always wondered what they could have come up with had he made another album with them.

I share the same disappointment. In my opinion it would have been worth the trade off and not have ever had Awaken .