2016 NFL THREAD - Super Bowl 51 - Patriots' Day: V - Screw Goodell

[axeman90210]

I'm just hoping the Jets don't get embarassed on national TV tonight

lol

Yeah. To add insult to injury, they did it with Larry Fitzgerald not getting too much production, simultaneously costing me wins in two FF leagues.

[Skeever]

I'm just hoping the Jets don't get embarassed on national TV tonight

lol

Yeah. To add insult to injury, they did it with Larry Fitzgerald not getting too much production, simultaneously costing me wins in two FF leagues.

My fantasy opponent had a 50 point lead going into last night.

I played Palmer and Johnson, hoping that at least if those guys shred up my Jets, I would win the fantasy match. 

Well, turns out, Johnson shredded up my jets, I came within 10 points and still lost.

Same ol' Jets. At least there's my Madden franchise

[CrimsonSunrise]

That crap the Rams pulled at the end of their game yesterday was classic Fisher/Williams.

I don't think that's a fair assessment. I think that was sheer player frustration.  Fisher discusses it here...

https://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/news/rams-week-6-kneel-down-blitz-vs-lions-jeff-fisher/1w0h0c8qw2rqt11uzy6itxfk9g

[El Barto]

Then Fisher needs to discipline if damn players. What is he, Marvin Lewis?

[pogoowner]

That's some 7-9 bullshit if I've ever seen it.

[King Postwhore]

Fisher always bugged me like the Colts management always crying every year to change rules to benefit them.

[KevShmev]

That crap the Rams pulled at the end of their game yesterday was classic Fisher/Williams.

I don't think that's a fair assessment. I think that was sheer player frustration.  Fisher discusses it here...

https://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/news/rams-week-6-kneel-down-blitz-vs-lions-jeff-fisher/1w0h0c8qw2rqt11uzy6itxfk9g

Fisher can say what he wants, but his teams have always played on the edge when it comes to crossing the line being tough and dirty, plus he hired Gregg Williams, the DC responsible for Bountygate.  That speaks for itself.

[KevShmev]

Post-Week 6 Power Rankings
1. Minnesota - big game this week, at Philly, to see how they play coming out of the bye after being stroked by everyone
2. New England - took the best shot from a desperate Bengals team and then wiped them out
3. Atlanta - should be 5-1, if not for an awful non-call, and have proven they are for real this year
4. Dallas - Very legit, and winning like that at GB was huge
5. Denver - ugly loss without their head coach, but get him back this week
6. Seattle - got a gift, which could end up deciding home field
7. Buffalo - not sure it will last, but they deserve mad props for getting to 4-2 after many thought they fall to 0-4 after that 0-2 start
8. Kansas City - Andy Reid after a bye is always a lock
9. Pittsburgh - showing to be a paper "champion" once again
10. Washington - four in a row, like the Bills, is impressive, but can it continue?
 

Trending Up:

Arizona - Carson Palmer still looks iffy, but David Johnson is awesome, and that D looks ferocious again
Detroit - Matt Stafford's evolution into an above average NFL QB is being totally overlooked
Tennessee - this team is at 3-3 all of a sudden

Trending Down:

Carolina - awful D and terrible leadership
NY Jets - they are done
Philadelphia - two straight losses after a 3-0 start with a rookie QB

MVP contenders:

1. Matt Ryan
2. LeSean McCoy
3. David Johnson
4. Sam Bradford
5. Ben Roethlisberger

[Architeuthis]

Seattle made some great plays. Remember there were some non calls in Atlanta's favor earlier in the game. Pass interference on Kearse and Lockett that Atlanta got away with, it evened out. Both teams played well.

[cramx3]

Jets have named Geno Smith the starter now.  I'm going to guess the Jets are looking for a new coach and QB next season. 

[TheCountOfNYC]

Jets have named Geno Smith the starter now.  I'm going to guess the Jets are looking for a new coach and QB next season.

I don't think they'll be looking for a new coach. He's only in his second year, they went 10-6 last year, his top corner isn't 100%, arguably his top receiver is on IR which leads to his other top receiver getting more coverage, and his starting QB has thrown games away from trying to do too much to compensate for the absence of Decker. Also, their first six game stretch of the season was hell. Only one of the teams missed the playoffs last year (the Bills, who they beat) and this is exactly where a lot of experts thought they would be at this point in the season. I think Woody decides to keep Bowles for at least another year. They definitely will be getting a new QB. I personally think that if Geno still stinks and the season really is lost, they should see what they have in Petty and Hackenberg. Look at what Trevor Siemian and Dak Prescott have done this year as later round draft picks. If either Petty or Hackenberg turn out anything like that, the Jets may have their answer at QB already in house. This was supposed to be a season where the Jets were a contender, but I don't think changing coaches yet again is the solution. Look at the Browns. Their constant carousel of coaches has led to the stunted growth of players due to a lack of continuity and a lot of coaches don't want to go there because they don't want to worry about losing their jobs after the slightest failure. Todd Bowles has shown what he can do when his entire team is at their best, and he deserves the chance to do it again.

[CrimsonSunrise]

Fisher can say what he wants, but his teams have always played on the edge when it comes to crossing the line being tough and dirty, plus he hired Gregg Williams, the DC responsible for Bountygate.  That speaks for itself.

Fisher teams have always played tough and "Through" the whistle.  He surely isn't the only coach to instill that philosophy.  Dirty?  I don't think so.  Even though I might be a little biased I don't see them as "Dirty" and I watch every game they play. I grew up watching "Dirty" with teams in the 70's and even 80's.  With the Rams, I see tough play, but that's about it.  What happened at the end of the Lions game seemed to me like frustration by the D-line over a tough fought battle in the trenches all day.  Personaly, I'm not a huge Fisher fan.  Never have been.  As far as Williams, well, I would venture a guess that he isn't the only Defensive Coordinater/Coach to have had that "Bountygate" mentality.   

[cramx3]

Jets have named Geno Smith the starter now.  I'm going to guess the Jets are looking for a new coach and QB next season.

I don't think they'll be looking for a new coach. He's only in his second year, they went 10-6 last year, his top corner isn't 100%, arguably his top receiver is on IR which leads to his other top receiver getting more coverage, and his starting QB has thrown games away from trying to do too much to compensate for the absence of Decker. Also, their first six game stretch of the season was hell. Only one of the teams missed the playoffs last year (the Bills, who they beat) and this is exactly where a lot of experts thought they would be at this point in the season. I think Woody decides to keep Bowles for at least another year. They definitely will be getting a new QB. I personally think that if Geno still stinks and the season really is lost, they should see what they have in Petty and Hackenberg. Look at what Trevor Siemian and Dak Prescott have done this year as later round draft picks. If either Petty or Hackenberg turn out anything like that, the Jets may have their answer at QB already in house. This was supposed to be a season where the Jets were a contender, but I don't think changing coaches yet again is the solution. Look at the Browns. Their constant carousel of coaches has led to the stunted growth of players due to a lack of continuity and a lot of coaches don't want to go there because they don't want to worry about losing their jobs after the slightest failure. Todd Bowles has shown what he can do when his entire team is at their best, and he deserves the chance to do it again.

I wouldn't personally think so either about the coach given it's his second year, but after listening to some sports radio yesterday, man the media really seems against him and they have a lot of good points as to why.  Specifically the defense being terrible.  I don't know enough about Petty, but as a PSU alum, I know Hackenberg is not the answer.  I'm going to say that the Jets QB next year is not on the roster for sure and the coach is on a very hot seat even if he stays next year.

[Dream Team]

I always wonder why teams have guys like this on the roster if they're not going to develop them.

Also just heard Burfict got a fine and no suspension. 

[Destiny Of Chaos]

Jets have named Geno Smith the starter now.  I'm going to guess the Jets are looking for a new coach and QB next season.

I don't think they'll be looking for a new coach. He's only in his second year, they went 10-6 last year, his top corner isn't 100%, arguably his top receiver is on IR which leads to his other top receiver getting more coverage, and his starting QB has thrown games away from trying to do too much to compensate for the absence of Decker. Also, their first six game stretch of the season was hell. Only one of the teams missed the playoffs last year (the Bills, who they beat) and this is exactly where a lot of experts thought they would be at this point in the season. I think Woody decides to keep Bowles for at least another year. They definitely will be getting a new QB. I personally think that if Geno still stinks and the season really is lost, they should see what they have in Petty and Hackenberg. Look at what Trevor Siemian and Dak Prescott have done this year as later round draft picks. If either Petty or Hackenberg turn out anything like that, the Jets may have their answer at QB already in house. This was supposed to be a season where the Jets were a contender, but I don't think changing coaches yet again is the solution. Look at the Browns. Their constant carousel of coaches has led to the stunted growth of players due to a lack of continuity and a lot of coaches don't want to go there because they don't want to worry about losing their jobs after the slightest failure. Todd Bowles has shown what he can do when his entire team is at their best, and he deserves the chance to do it again.

In what would has Decker proven to be as good as Marshall let better? On a team where stopping Marshall is the primary objective of any gameplan against them?


Marvin Lewis said that Burfict didn't do anything wrong. I'd say that it's time for Lewis to go, but the Bengals deserve him. Questionable leadership and managerial skills from the owner on down.

[Dr. DTVT]

Somebody - Goodell, a collective agreement from every team's player personnel department, or another player on the field - needs to end Vontez Buttfuct's career.  I'd prefer the first two, but if some player dove at the inside of his knee from behind and gave him a catastrophic injury, it is the one time I would cheer for a player injury.

An issue to unite Steelers, Ravens, and Patriots fans.

[Dublagent66]

Jets have named Geno Smith the starter now.  I'm going to guess the Jets are looking for a new coach and QB next season.

They need a whole new team from top to bottom.

Somebody - Goodell, a collective agreement from every team's player personnel department, or another player on the field - needs to end Vontez Buttfuct's career.  I'd prefer the first two, but if some player dove at the inside of his knee from behind and gave him a catastrophic injury, it is the one time I would cheer for a player injury.

An issue to unite Steelers, Ravens, and Patriots fans.

Don't forget the Saints.   

[TheCountOfNYC]

Jets have named Geno Smith the starter now.  I'm going to guess the Jets are looking for a new coach and QB next season.

I don't think they'll be looking for a new coach. He's only in his second year, they went 10-6 last year, his top corner isn't 100%, arguably his top receiver is on IR which leads to his other top receiver getting more coverage, and his starting QB has thrown games away from trying to do too much to compensate for the absence of Decker. Also, their first six game stretch of the season was hell. Only one of the teams missed the playoffs last year (the Bills, who they beat) and this is exactly where a lot of experts thought they would be at this point in the season. I think Woody decides to keep Bowles for at least another year. They definitely will be getting a new QB. I personally think that if Geno still stinks and the season really is lost, they should see what they have in Petty and Hackenberg. Look at what Trevor Siemian and Dak Prescott have done this year as later round draft picks. If either Petty or Hackenberg turn out anything like that, the Jets may have their answer at QB already in house. This was supposed to be a season where the Jets were a contender, but I don't think changing coaches yet again is the solution. Look at the Browns. Their constant carousel of coaches has led to the stunted growth of players due to a lack of continuity and a lot of coaches don't want to go there because they don't want to worry about losing their jobs after the slightest failure. Todd Bowles has shown what he can do when his entire team is at their best, and he deserves the chance to do it again.

In what would has Decker proven to be as good as Marshall let better? On a team where stopping Marshall is the primary objective of any gameplan against them?

Marvin Lewis said that Burfict didn't do anything wrong. I'd say that it's time for Lewis to go, but the Bengals deserve him. Questionable leadership and managerial skills from the owner on down.

Marshall is definitely the more talented receiver but Decker is Fitzpatrick's go to guy when the Jets absolutely need a first down conversion or a touchdown. He is used in a more versatile way than Marshall which usually leads to him getting more targets. With him now out for the season, the Jets lost their most trusted receiver. It's a tremendous loss and one that they clearly can't overcome.

[King Postwhore]

I always wonder why teams have guys like this on the roster if they're not going to develop them.

Also just heard Burfict got a fine and no suspension. 

And yet with no proof that the NFL said under oath in court, Brady got 4 games.  I saw that asshole stomp on Blunt's leg. What a joke.

[Dream Team]

So maybe if the Steelers can run the ball well and play ok on special teams they can keep it within 2or 3 scores lol. One thing at least, with two supposedly model organizations with stability and success there should be hopefully little or no extra-curricular activity.

[King Postwhore]

Go 2 and 2 and the Steelers should be ok.

[Dream Team]

Wow, so it turns out my prediction was right after all. On the Patriots message board someone posted a gif of Suh kicking Ben in the knee  .

[King Postwhore]

So what does that even mean?  Asshole fans post dumb stuff? Every team has those.

[KevShmev]

Fisher can say what he wants, but his teams have always played on the edge when it comes to crossing the line being tough and dirty, plus he hired Gregg Williams, the DC responsible for Bountygate.  That speaks for itself.

Fisher teams have always played tough and "Through" the whistle.  He surely isn't the only coach to instill that philosophy.  Dirty?  I don't think so.  Even though I might be a little biased I don't see them as "Dirty" and I watch every game they play. I grew up watching "Dirty" with teams in the 70's and even 80's.  With the Rams, I see tough play, but that's about it.  What happened at the end of the Lions game seemed to me like frustration by the D-line over a tough fought battle in the trenches all day.  Personaly, I'm not a huge Fisher fan.  Never have been.  As far as Williams, well, I would venture a guess that he isn't the only Defensive Coordinater/Coach to have had that "Bountygate" mentality.

Having the mentality is one thing; coaching your players to play that way is another. 

And this isn't the 70s or 80s anymore; you have to adjust to the rules of the era, and their defense goes over the line way too often.

Marvin Lewis said that Burfict didn't do anything wrong. I'd say that it's time for Lewis to go, but the Bengals deserve him. Questionable leadership and managerial skills from the owner on down.

Lewis has to stick up for his player, but he clearly has no idea how or any interest in stopping Burfict's on field thuggish behavior.

And neither does the NFL.  What a joke this is.  He tries to take a player's knees out and gets a slap on the wrist.  How awful.

[Dream Team]

So what does that even mean?  Asshole fans post dumb stuff? Every team has those.

Whoa, calm down. I was referring to my prediction of Suh aiming at a knee, I don't have a problem with the Patriots board.

[mikeyd23]

Go 2 and 2 and the Steelers should be ok.

With Jones as QB, I would be amazed if the Steelers went .500 without Ben.

[KevShmev]

Pittsburgh has no shot against NE without him, they always have a tough team agains the Ravens WITH Ben, and Dallas will be very tough to beat, so they could conceivably lose the next three.  Fortunately for them, their division isn't as good this year, so they could get him back and win the division with a 10-6 or even 9-7 record maybe.

[Cool Chris]

Late to the party I know, but count me in on NFL games being too damn long. It might just be the commercials though. I am an automatic channel-changer when it comes to commercials, and eventually I get tired of either pressing buttons, or watching Peyton make cupcakes.

[KevShmev]

I can't believe how bad Aaron Rodgers is now.  This is like a Tiger Woods-esque plummet; very sudden and very fast and no one saw it coming.

[El Barto]

This game is even more dreadful than I was expecting.

[KevShmev]

Fortunately, there is a Blues game and a baseball game on right now, as well, but every time I turn to football, it just looks awful.

[KevShmev]

Officials just gave GB 4 points.  No way was that a catch.  Just awful.

[Dublagent66]

I missed that.  Been switching to other channels.  How do you figure 4 points Kev?

[KevShmev]

That bad call gave them a 1st down inside the 10 instead of it being 4th down, so instead of kicking a FG, they got a bogus 1st down and then scored a touchdown.  The way this has gone, it probably wouldn't have mattered, but it's sad to see blown calls of that nature, especially when it was looked at on replay.

[Dublagent66]

Ah, I see.  Par for the course.  So far, another season of bad officiating.  Well, we can't have GB losing at home back to back.   

Seriously though, as bad as GB has been playing, I still expected them to win.