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Re: 2016 NFL THREAD - RIP Dennis Green
« Reply #1225 on: September 22, 2016, 09:41:11 PM »
The Cardinals, Dolphins, and Texans are a disgrace to their cities and fans for rolling over like punks.

Wrong. They were steamrolled.

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Re: 2016 NFL THREAD - No Brady? No Problem!
« Reply #1226 on: September 23, 2016, 04:05:55 AM »
3-0 without Brady..... this is getting scary!

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Re: 2016 NFL THREAD - No Brady? No Problem!
« Reply #1227 on: September 23, 2016, 06:07:40 AM »
Belichick needs a Bar Rescue-style show where he visits different NFL teams and builds gameplans for crappy teams to win a game.
         
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Re: 2016 NFL THREAD - RIP Dennis Green
« Reply #1228 on: September 23, 2016, 06:31:26 AM »
I'd like to thank the Texans, too, for overpaying Brock Osweiler.  The Broncos might have question marks at the QB position still, but at least they aren't paying an average at best starter way too much.

That loss was not all on Osweiler. Miller couldn't get the run game going and none of the Texans WR's, other than Hopkins, could get open.

I know some of you will object to this, but imagine if Peyton Manning had played his whole career with Belichick.  They might have won as many rings as Bill Russell.  Scary to think about.

Like it or not, this start really does elevate Belichick (who was already possibly the best coach ever) and dings Brady a tad. 

This doesn't ding Brady at all. Brisett didn't keep the Texans from scoring any points. This game could have been way different if the Texans didn't fumble TWO kick-offs.

 
The Cardinals, Dolphins, and Texans are a disgrace to their cities and fans for rolling over like punks.

Umm, did you watch any of those games? The Cardinals and Dolphins did nothing resembling rolling over.

3-0 without Brady..... this is getting scary!
Yep. And also no Gronk. If their defense continues to improve they'd be my lock for the AFC Champ.

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Re: 2016 NFL THREAD - No Brady? No Problem!
« Reply #1229 on: September 23, 2016, 06:42:26 AM »
Well since there's almost no chance of the Bills beating the Pats, that game last night ended any hope of the Jets possibly stealing the division. It looks like they'll be fighting for a wildcard spot and this is all ignoring the brutal five game stretch ahead. I feel the nightmare starting again and there's nothing I can do to stop it.
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Re: 2016 NFL THREAD - No Brady? No Problem!
« Reply #1230 on: September 23, 2016, 06:48:18 AM »
What makes me as a Pat's fan happy is this is really sticking into the craw of all the owners who had their agenda against the Pats and no matter what they try to do (sticking their lap dog Goodell after them) they are failing again.

Hey owners, it's your fault you're not that good year in, year out.
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Re: 2016 NFL THREAD - RIP Dennis Green
« Reply #1231 on: September 23, 2016, 07:33:42 AM »
I'd like to thank the Texans, too, for overpaying Brock Osweiler.  The Broncos might have question marks at the QB position still, but at least they aren't paying an average at best starter way too much.

That loss was not all on Osweiler. Miller couldn't get the run game going and none of the Texans WR's, other than Hopkins, could get open.

I know some of you will object to this, but imagine if Peyton Manning had played his whole career with Belichick.  They might have won as many rings as Bill Russell.  Scary to think about.

Like it or not, this start really does elevate Belichick (who was already possibly the best coach ever) and dings Brady a tad. 

This doesn't ding Brady at all. Brisett didn't keep the Texans from scoring any points. This game could have been way different if the Texans didn't fumble TWO kick-offs.

 
The Cardinals, Dolphins, and Texans are a disgrace to their cities and fans for rolling over like punks.

Umm, did you watch any of those games? The Cardinals and Dolphins did nothing resembling rolling over.

3-0 without Brady..... this is getting scary!
Yep. And also no Gronk. If their defense continues to improve they'd be my lock for the AFC Champ.

I like everything about this post.  Spot on, with one exception:  it wasn't ALL on Osweiler, but a lot of it was.  He did not look good, and even Phil Simms at one point said "Osweiler just doesn't look like he knows what he's doing."   Of course, he also said "I think I could go out there now and run this offense" about the Pats, so....

Look, this doesn't ding Brady one bit and here's why:   Brissett played as well as he had to, and the offense was geared to him.  If Wade Phillips was able to stop Cam Newton like a Pop Warner player in the Super Bowl (and he DID), you can't convince me that he couldn't scheme a plan that would have wrecked the Pats offense last night.   Where Belichick is smart is that he knows he only has to do this once or twice more.   If the Pats have to get into a shootout, they're not going to look as good as they did last night.   And Brissett had help:  I'm not saying it was all Texans playing bad, but how they let LeGarrett Blount into the secondary so many times is beyond me.   

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Re: 2016 NFL THREAD - No Brady? No Problem!
« Reply #1232 on: September 23, 2016, 07:42:37 AM »
If Brady played it would have been 45-0.  We've seen this over the years.  People want to say it's Belichick that makes Brady and he is a system QB.  The reason why they have a chance every year for a decade and 1/2 is because both drive this team. 

Look at the game management last night. Brissett was used perfectly.  That's what makes Belichick great. He adapts.
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Re: 2016 NFL THREAD - No Brady? No Problem!
« Reply #1233 on: September 23, 2016, 07:43:05 AM »
Belichick also knows Obrien well and as a mentor to the student, schooled him.

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« Reply #1234 on: September 23, 2016, 07:46:18 AM »
You would think that would be an asset to the Texans but they seemed unprepared.
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Re: 2016 NFL THREAD - No Brady? No Problem!
« Reply #1235 on: September 23, 2016, 07:51:10 AM »
If Brady played it would have been 45-0.  We've seen this over the years.  People want to say it's Belichick that makes Brady and he is a system QB.  The reason why they have a chance every year for a decade and 1/2 is because both drive this team. 

Look at the game management last night. Brissett was used perfectly.  That's what makes Belichick great. He adapts.

I think that is the one thing that most people miss about Belichick.  Is he a genius?  Well, to the extent a football coach can be, yes.  But his greatest quality - and one I aspire to - is his innate sense of when to be rigid (DO YOUR JOB, not succumbing to the whining of Wes Welker and (the first time) LeGarrett Blount for "mo' money!") and when to be flexible:  he can coach a down-field aerial offense, he can coach a West Coast offense, he can coach a grind-em-out Pittsburgh running game offense, and everything in between.  He gets the best FOOTBALL PLAYERS (NOT the same thing as "best athletes") and builds the scheme around them, not the other way around (like Chip Kelly).    Yes, he's a "system guy", but people don't realize that system is changing almost every game. 

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« Reply #1236 on: September 23, 2016, 07:53:21 AM »
And by the way, I get SUPREME satisfaction out of the fact that the NFL changed the stupid touchback rules for one reason and one reason only, and it took Belichick all of one game to completely and utterly undermine it and actually force the exact OPPOSITE result (i.e., he's been short-kicking the kickoffs and there have been more returns than ever, most stopped well short of the 25 yard line). 

There could not possibly be a bigger implied, unspoken FUCK YOU to Roger Goodell than that. 

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« Reply #1237 on: September 23, 2016, 08:01:46 AM »
And by the way, I get SUPREME satisfaction out of the fact that the NFL changed the stupid touchback rules for one reason and one reason only, and it took Belichick all of one game to completely and utterly undermine it and actually force the exact OPPOSITE result (i.e., he's been short-kicking the kickoffs and there have been more returns than ever, most stopped well short of the 25 yard line). 

There could not possibly be a bigger implied, unspoken FUCK YOU to Roger Goodell than that.

I really don't like these new NFL kick off rules and am loving this move.  It makes sense for the coaches to do it if your kicker can accurately kick it to right in front of the endzone.

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Re: 2016 NFL THREAD - No Brady? No Problem!
« Reply #1238 on: September 23, 2016, 08:30:00 AM »
Belichick needs a Bar Rescue-style show where he visits different NFL teams and builds gameplans for crappy teams to win a game.
         
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« Reply #1239 on: September 23, 2016, 08:41:31 AM »
As much as I don't like the Pats, you gotta admire and respect an organization that has the ability to plug n play at just about any position.  Also, in a so-called QB driven league, it really isn't just about the QB as the Pats have clearly demonstrated.
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« Reply #1240 on: September 23, 2016, 09:00:09 AM »
Yeah, I can't stand the Patriots in general, but my respect for Belicheck and his staff is immense.  That was a master class last night.

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« Reply #1241 on: September 23, 2016, 09:44:58 AM »
Yeah, I can't stand the Patriots in general, but my respect for Belicheck and his staff is immense.  That was a master class last night.

Bar Rescue lol

This. People wouldn't hate them so much if they sucked.
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« Reply #1242 on: September 23, 2016, 12:50:36 PM »
The Cardinals, Dolphins, and Texans are a disgrace to their cities and fans for rolling over like punks.
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« Reply #1243 on: September 23, 2016, 01:08:16 PM »
Evidently, Brissett suffered a torn ligament in his right thumb last night.  May require surgery.  Edleman's turn. :lol
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« Reply #1244 on: September 23, 2016, 01:10:48 PM »
Evidently, Brissett suffered a torn ligament in his right thumb last night.  May require surgery.  Edleman's turn. :lol

I got to imagine they pick up a vet to play the one game if Brissett can't play and keep Edleman as the back up.

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« Reply #1245 on: September 23, 2016, 01:13:31 PM »
The Cardinals, Dolphins, and Texans are a disgrace to their cities and fans for rolling over like punks.
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In what way have the Cardinals been a disgrace?   ???  They have been playing well for the last 4 years, and have been a tough rival for the Seahawks in the NFC west.

That's how Steelers fans think.
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« Reply #1246 on: September 23, 2016, 01:24:07 PM »
Evidently, Brissett suffered a torn ligament in his right thumb last night.  May require surgery.  Edleman's turn. :lol

I got to imagine they pick up a vet to play the one game if Brissett can't play and keep Edleman as the back up.

Or pick up a vet as the backup.  Should be interesting to see what happens.
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« Reply #1247 on: September 23, 2016, 01:25:28 PM »
The talk here is he played most of the 3rd and all of the 4th with that injury.
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« Reply #1248 on: September 23, 2016, 01:56:13 PM »
I'm available, Coach.
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« Reply #1249 on: September 23, 2016, 02:27:10 PM »
I'm available, Coach.

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« Reply #1250 on: September 23, 2016, 02:44:57 PM »
I would pay to see it off.  :heybaby:
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« Reply #1251 on: September 23, 2016, 03:09:27 PM »
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« Reply #1252 on: September 23, 2016, 05:50:05 PM »
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« Reply #1253 on: September 23, 2016, 06:00:53 PM »
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« Reply #1254 on: September 23, 2016, 06:26:07 PM »
I'd like to thank the Texans, too, for overpaying Brock Osweiler.  The Broncos might have question marks at the QB position still, but at least they aren't paying an average at best starter way too much.

That loss was not all on Osweiler. Miller couldn't get the run game going and none of the Texans WR's, other than Hopkins, could get open.


I didn't say it was all on Osweiler, but he looked bad. Guys were getting open at times, and he missed some of them badly.  Plus, he looked shaky in the pocket from the start.  I still don't begrudge him for taking the money and running, but I am sure happy he did.

More than anything, the loss last night is on Bill O'Brien, who is not very good. 

And by the way, I get SUPREME satisfaction out of the fact that the NFL changed the stupid touchback rules for one reason and one reason only, and it took Belichick all of one game to completely and utterly undermine it and actually force the exact OPPOSITE result (i.e., he's been short-kicking the kickoffs and there have been more returns than ever, most stopped well short of the 25 yard line). 

There could not possibly be a bigger implied, unspoken FUCK YOU to Roger Goodell than that.

Okay, but he isn't the only coach doing that, so as awesome as I think Belichick is, this is one case where people over exaggerate his "genius."

If Brady played it would have been 45-0.  We've seen this over the years.  People want to say it's Belichick that makes Brady and he is a system QB.  The reason why they have a chance every year for a decade and 1/2 is because both drive this team. 
 

Right, but I would submit that if Belichick had had merely good or average quarterbacks for the last 15 years, he'd probably still have a few rings (especially since Brady wasn't a stud QB yet when they won the first two or even three). 

On the flip side, had Brady ended up on a team with an average or good head coaches for all of his career, he'd be lucky to have one.

I can put it this way: some guys were gonna be awesome no matter where they played or who they played for.  Peyton Manning, Jerry Rice and Barry Sanders are three guys like that. 

Then there are players who were awesome because they landed in very fortunate spots and made things go their way as a result.  Tom Brady, Emmitt Smith and Kurt Warner are three guys like that.

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« Reply #1255 on: September 23, 2016, 06:28:17 PM »
Kev, that's why they are at 4. That's my point. Both have got the Pat's to this high of a level.   
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« Reply #1256 on: September 23, 2016, 06:30:03 PM »
I agree, but I think Belichick is slightly more important to their success.  And I would say that Belichick has a far better claim to being the best NFL head coach ever than Brady does to being the best quarterback.

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« Reply #1257 on: September 23, 2016, 07:05:39 PM »
Well I rank Brady 2 all time so I can agree by a hair. ;D
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« Reply #1258 on: September 23, 2016, 07:12:26 PM »
Well I rank Brady 2 all time so I can agree by a hair. ;D

Geez, and this whole time I thought you were a homer!
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Winger Theater Forums........or WTF.  ;D
TAC got a higher score than me in the electronic round? Honestly, can I just drop out now? :lol

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Re: 2016 NFL THREAD - No Brady? No Problem!
« Reply #1259 on: September 23, 2016, 07:14:24 PM »
Brady wins one more I'll put him above his idol.
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